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adey 21-11-2015 12:07 AM

It looks like a copy of a yokomo. I bet it's a top quality car and you seem too get a fair bit in the kit but it's certainly very yokomo like. Be interesting too see how people think it drives in comparison to the yokomo.

Wacker 2 21-11-2015 01:05 AM

Looks awesome... no question, I will definitely be ordering one.

But I have to say I'm a little dissapointed that they've not incorporated some Xray anodised orange into the mix for the final production kit?

Only a small thing that I know wont have any bearing on the performance... but would take the look of the car to another level.

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0gafn5l5.jpg

BentKa 21-11-2015 07:30 AM

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ralphee 21-11-2015 08:28 AM

I like it, looks a top product, with a few more secrets to unlock VS the Yokomo, so not a copy, a revised take on the industry craze of low CG lay down cars, very nice indeed, as for copies, what isnt a copy these days, hardly a surprise, and manufacturers would be kinda silly to not go with what seems to be working.

Lee

Richard Law 21-11-2015 12:56 PM

2 choices 🙉
Never run on dirt, but do run on low grip surfaces!

Need more info, how's the low grip car run on high grip and vice versa

danDanEFC 21-11-2015 01:32 PM

Is the lack of a 'national a-finalist' UK Team Driver going to hold them back?

Bent is very helpful, but he is in a different country.

Lee24h 21-11-2015 05:22 PM

So its happened buggies are gone the way of touring cars now
Sad times the yokomo was the first schumacher have always done things a bit differently look.
Xray have had too many xb2 prototypes and rather than creating something new theyve just played it safe very underwhelmed by this car.

BentKa 21-11-2015 05:56 PM

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simonrhart 21-11-2015 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AfroP (Post 932532)
The losi 22 was one of the first cars i'm aware of that offered an out the box option to switch between mid and rear motor configs.

That was followed by the Durango 210 which offered 4 motor positions in 3 and gear transmission which covered all surface types out of the box.


There is a big difference in the creation of different composite parts, layout and chassis flex when it comes to designing for different track surfaces than just motor placement.

I had the Losi 22 and it was a terrible car no matter the configuration. I think they greatly improved it with later versions of it but I never owned the other versions. Will be interested in seeing how easy this is to drive although doesn't make sense to get one now for the rainy greasy wet weather coming up, but I'll get one in the spring time.

BentKa 21-11-2015 07:18 PM

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BentKa 22-11-2015 08:43 AM

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andoiwebb 22-11-2015 09:37 AM

It's just a clone of the... Oh wait ����

BentKa 22-11-2015 09:57 AM

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discothesnake 22-11-2015 11:23 AM

Must admit, that is a really nice touch. Accessing the diff Of a 2wd is always a pain but that is great.

ralphee 22-11-2015 11:53 AM

That is a nice touch, YZ2 was a pig to switch out lol, yeah just a direct copy eh hehehe, they looked good at the EOS too!

Lee

Wacker 2 22-11-2015 01:11 PM

Plenty of other manufacturers have copied Xray's winning designs in the past... its common practice in all forms of racing... even F1 teams spy on the other cars on the grid to try and replicate successful designs to improve performance!

The Yokomo is a feckin fast car so if thats what the XB2 'resembles' it can only be a good thing. The difference will be that the Yokomo cars are cheap and brittle and the Xray is quality and extremely strong.

I'd take a good car built well over a good car built badly, any day of the week!

:thumbsup:

fil9144 22-11-2015 05:13 PM

I think they have built a safe car which will be the same as the very good 4wd car they already have.
I have a KYOSHO rb6 and before this not even thought of selling it but I do think might be time to order myself a Xmas present
I don't think X-ray can please everyone but if look at what they have been doing for a long time is trying to get it right.

Look at the videos bent posted a very long time ago now which would suggest they want to get the car right before selling them.
Most manufacturers would not have held back just before Xmas to add a different gearbox position they would have just released another car in 6 months

BentKa 23-11-2015 10:55 AM

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jonathan may 23-11-2015 06:01 PM

cant wait :D

Bozzspeed 23-11-2015 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BentKa (Post 932814)
Yep.....Xray copied the 3 minute diff change and multi position gearbox of the YZ2.......oh wait :p :D

Bent


3 minutes???

It was 4 minutes in a early post. Was 1 minutes spent on taking the picture and doing the Facebook post. :thumbsup:

Next thing, Xray will be accused of coping other manufactures and using 12mm hexes. If I design a car it's going to have 13mm hexes. No one has those yet.

BentKa 23-11-2015 11:14 PM

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Richard Law 25-11-2015 10:28 AM

Is the new xb2 using the same ball diff as the xb4 16?

BentKa 25-11-2015 10:29 AM

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rcpower 25-11-2015 07:46 PM

Brittle??? Yeah right... Where is the time that xray 4wd buggies had yokomo diffs inside to just hold up? At least the diffs of the yz-2 and yz-4 are the same :p Apart from these jokes, there's no doubt that both cars are at the top of the food chain however with both their own pros and cons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wacker 2 (Post 932826)
The difference will be that the Yokomo cars are cheap and brittle and the Xray is quality and extremely strong.

I'd take a good car built well over a good car built badly, any day of the week!

:thumbsup:


lomar15 26-11-2015 07:34 AM

I'm impressed. Looks like a well designed very high quality car. Ludicrously adjustable. Great Job Guys! I have a XB4'15, which I love. This car will make me switch my 2wd to Xray as well. I'm not impressed with the new 22 3.0 . To me its a dirt car. Their mid motor setup looks a lot like the XB2 dirt mid motor setup-motor as close to the diff as possible for rear traction, not forward for balance.

Nice work

Robert

BentKa 27-11-2015 09:55 AM

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simonrhart 27-11-2015 02:06 PM

What size motor will most of you put in this?

I am thinking of running a 8.5T which is 5400kV for the motor I've selected and this is for most medium size astro tracks.

jonathan may 27-11-2015 03:00 PM

6.5 or 7.5

BentKa 27-11-2015 04:02 PM

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ojoloco 28-11-2015 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BentKa (Post 933374)
We run 5.5T for medium to high grip astro and carpet and 7.5T/8.5T for low grip dirt/clay.

Choose motor to suit track size, traction and skill level.

7.5T or 8.5T is a good all-round choice.

Bent

Hi Bent,

what pinion would you recommend for an 8.5T on medium sized tracks? Using the stock spur to begin with.

BentKa 28-11-2015 01:05 PM

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andys 30-11-2015 08:07 PM

So - XB2 - bit confusing re options.

If I buy the carpet kit (thats the one available in the UK right now) - will a conversion be available with relevant bits to convert to low grip - if so any idea re cost - Xray are notorioulsy expensive re options....

Also re surface - if racing indoors, on slippy floors - would the carpet kit be rubbish?
It looks like the layout is very similar to the YZ2 and that seems to work ok?

tomtom 30-11-2015 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andys (Post 933672)
So - XB2 - bit confusing re options.

If I buy the carpet kit (thats the one available in the UK right now) - will a conversion be available with relevant bits to convert to low grip - if so any idea re cost - Xray are notorioulsy expensive re options....

Also re surface - if racing indoors, on slippy floors - would the carpet kit be rubbish?
It looks like the layout is very similar to the YZ2 and that seems to work ok?


We don't know much but from my experience with the YZ2 an XB2 built with medium parts, ball diff and rear shocks on the back will be great on medium grip.
Composite front chassis, 3 pads slipper and medium parts should yield to an easier car than the Yokomo with more traction.

If you want to calculate here are the parts with prices :
http://www.xray-shop.at/shop/index.p...5psqcrpb7tu1q4

jonathan may 30-11-2015 09:51 PM

don't think it will be that expensive not option parts just will be standard parts from a dirt spec car

sime46 01-12-2015 08:14 AM

Picked mine up yesterday from RCDisco(thanks Greg). Can't wait to get building. It's a great car. Lots of very clever innovations as always from Xray.

lee.willows 01-12-2015 01:51 PM

XB2
 
What about the other way, buy the dirt spec car then all you need is the motor plate and gear box halves? am I assuming right?

Just an idea!

adey 01-12-2015 03:00 PM

Anyone have any idea what springs are in the kit?. Need a good starting setup for carpet too.

tomtom 01-12-2015 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adey (Post 933732)
Anyone have any idea what springs are in the kit?. Need a good starting setup for carpet too.

1 dot front and rear, supposed to be good for carpet.

andys 01-12-2015 05:27 PM

Going to wait for 'Dirt' Car - as it's (hopefully) more usable, more of the time IMO.
Also ball diff is SILLY expensive, £48.99 - gulp....

If it's mainly just a gearbox mould (diff excluded) - you'd think they could have just released one car with both options - lots of other cars come with more than one gearbox mould - or was the 'Dirt' car an after thought if they realised the car only worked well on high grip?

BentKa 01-12-2015 06:27 PM

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