So are we putting thus all to bed now and starting from fresh on Friday?:thumbsup:

Like I said at the start,I asked about running a TT01 and was told I couldn't because it's a TC,
Could someone let us know the "rules,spec," ASAP for running a tto1

Or this.......

I guess we are :) I'm happy as long as nobody moans about my Mardave. I've just put a Castle motor in it and 4S. But don't worry, I've mounted four 1/8 scale wings around the body to keep it nice and controllable.

oh dear... Sorry about that, I thought the TT01 was about the perfect Clubman car. Just stick a 13.5 with no timing and you'll be OK I think. When Scott has run a 13.5 he's been very close to my sealed can 15T.

I'm just charging up my glow start ready friday:lol:

I'll be bringing a tt02 and a tb04 for clubmans and I will be running them both and if anybody moans they can keep my points as I don't care about it as long as I can beat Charlie :thumbsup:

Both have a 13.5 installed, oil shocks, and beautiful bodies :lol:

Scott not skid, although I'm going to run with it as my driver name:p

How do I book in with the driver name Skidd?:D

We have one more championship after this one don't we? I've sold the f104 pro and opted for a simple f104w that should be ready in a couple of weeks :thumbsup:

Stock gearing and silver can, so keep yours unbroken Chris!

Skidd

:blush: :lol:

What's happend to you all running a tto1?
So basically if it's 4WD then we run 13.5 blinky,with any hop ups and any tires
If we run F1 it's silver can or brushless equivalent blinky,any hopups and any tires,
Mini is black can blinky,any hop ups and any tires.
No points for anyone just good racing each week.

sounds good to me !

Fine with me - but will confirm at committee meeting tomorrow, then get the agreed rules published on the website so everybodyt can see :thumbsup::thumbsup:

I like the idea of f1 silver can or brushless equivalent which is 21.5 turn because you get brakes ..

Enjoying the posts ;)

Right let's allow all the tamiya chassis except TRF (so no pro type tourer chassis this includes the Schumacher mi1/mission etc.) 13.5 blinky/zero timing (or we can see how they go) as I know there is a weak part in the transmission on the tt01 (unless it's been updated) so u can't run them too hot.. scale ish shells, no tourer shells.

I enjoy the clubman class, its different each week and always looks quite close for most, even with all the different motor specs.
As some of you have said it's not always the winning but the close racing between yourselves which is more fun.

It's all supposed to be fun and friendly :)

I know drivers have left but others joined in their place.
Gt12 has become quiet but some drivers have just changed class, we still have them ;)


The only clubman car I have is an m03, which Chris g, Chris p and Charlie know all about lol. (Ive not ran it for some time lol) rear motored 6.5bl :lol:

Will discuss and finalize at tomorrows meeting.

So F1 still allowed but with silver can? hate to ask.........:cry:

Those rules seem good... Please 21.5 blinks for f1 .... I know they are slower than 27 but better on battery and brakes.

Skidd.

Thats all well and good but if you do not have 21.5 then we will need to go out and buy one.......

What about silver can in every class,
Use what the cars were designed to use?
If you arnt chasing the lap times of a different model by going max on the gearing it should be fine,that way if it doesn't work we haven't sheld out on motors we arnt going to use

Ah.... I have it.... how about an invitation only class? If your names not down your not coming in?....:thumbsup:

That might be the case when you stick your black foot down with a 13.5 in on friday:thumbsup:

Now theres an idea:thumbsup:

If you do that i think Martin might crush it with his twin detonator:D

Crickey, leave a thread alone for a few minutes and...

From my selfish personal perspective the rules talked about sound good, but how about scale shells encouraged but not necessarily enforced? Speaking entirely selfishly as pointed out earlier I do have that green touring shell that was sent by mistake when I ordered a red AE86 shell. It hasn't got any cracks and I would hate to have to put it away. Ideally I'd like to get some good use out of it before swapping for my as yet unpainted Camaro shell which is far more scale looking.

As for the other rules I agree with the point made about silvercan or brushless equivalent. It should be both, in a class that's supposed to be budget people shouldn't be forced to go out and buy a tonne of new kit. The Blackfoot example given in jest is amusingly good in my opinion, if someone turns up with a Black Foot or a Traxxas Grave Digger I see no reason for me to object. Martin did race that Twin Detonator and caused no carnage... I don't know about others, but I like the extreme variety, it isn't often that you see a twin motor monster truck go against an m-chassis, a Mardave and an F104. That's part of what makes Clubman cool.

Let's be honest, so far the class has been incredibly freaking close. Closer than classes that have stricter rules. So my main thought going into the Monday meeting is that we should try and make sure we don't go over the top introducing too many rules for Clubman to solve a problem that doesn't exist just because of what was said on Oople once.

PS: To prove that point I'll happily do a round of off road and I am pretty sure that driving my fastest I'll still be 3 to 4 laps slower that the top guys and my buggy isn't slow. When I didn't race Clubman I used to be close to Martin and Chris, and guess what... In Clubman I am also close to Martin and Chris. It isn't the cars...

Wasn't saying no silver can in f1 but allow 21.5 as well I would rather have the slower rpm but have the brakes and torque .... But happy to stay silver can .. At least with brushless you know it is what it is unlike silver can with peeled stickers :o

Skidd.

Good point :) I hate the no torque feel of silvercans too, it didn't seem to matter too much in the Mardave though... And it still got hot as hell.

Torque was exactly what the F103 was lacking on friday

Try the HPI 20T as suggested by TIC Racing. :) ... I know it'll be quicker than the silvercans, but not much more and I reckon there will be a lot less heat issues and they will last lots longer. I don't want ppl to get accused of cheating though.

I suggested the HPI 20T before as it seemed cheaper and easier overall.

In all honesty I had a torque tuned in my F104, on the large (slow) spur and had to run at 80 percent EPA because on the straight it was too fast ... The 21.5 is BRCA std for F1 ... and in this instance they got it right :yawn:

Scott aka Skidd on predictive text ...:thumbsup:

Off topic, but my tablet auto-corrects Tamiya to Taliban. That could lead to SOOOooooooooooo many problems.

In all honesty I had a torque tuned in my F104, on the large (slow) spur and had to run at 80 percent EPA because on the straight it was too fast ... The 21.5 is BRCA std for F1 ... and in this instance they got it right :yawn:

Scott aka Skidd on predictive text ...:thumbsup:

OK, not my Dave uses the same batts as my TL01. I can race both vehicles easily. Would be nice to compare performance side by side. Hopefully there will be good grip from round 1 now that the carpet has been hoovered.

Lee was using a Saturn 27T - which I also have (£1 BNIB!!!!!!) so might try that, although if everybody is running silver can then lack of torque won't be an issue as we will all be in the same boat.

Yeah, the crappy, gutless, small displacement 4 pot boat that nobody ever wants to board :(

V8!

PS: And a leaky radiator to boot....

PPS: Being honest I didn't find the silvercan gutless in the mardave, it was a lil more punchy than the fan can with a lil less top speed. Performance was great in fact... However... it cooked itself. Lap times were good too! Maybe it is because I don't have a heat sink nor a fan installed.

Well that took some reading!
The rules are on the website!, if you are within the set rules what is the problem.

We were within the rules but called cheats!
That's the problem.

I thought a line had been drawn under all this, but I have copied this straight from the club website and these were also included in the handouts that were given on 3rd Jan:

Clubman:
Chassis: Primarily Mini but “moderately paced” touring cars, F1s and Mardave Mini-Stox welcome.
Bodyshell: Any
Motor: Any but 10t (19t brushed) or slower preferred. Silver can only for F1 or other direct drive cars
Tyres: Any type of foam or rubber tyre
Electronics: Maximum of 7.2v Nimh/Nicad Batteries - Maximum of nominal 7.4v Lipo Batteries only.

So if you operate within these, you are not a cheat.
We have a meeting tonight and what was posted on this forum will be discussed. If there are any rule changes for next series, we will put them on the website, Oople and Facebook

oh :( So my 4S castle powered Mardave is not legal? :( :( :(

Anyway, my Mardave is staying the same as it was last Friday other than going lipo as those old batts left me stranded.

If those 4 cells are Nimhs then you will be fine, if they hold their charge:p:p

Superstox front end,mardave rear end with home made chassis,

Does direct drive mean solid rear axle? If so I had a diff and a 13.5

Foam tires,

7.4v

Was I outside the rules?

Chassis?: Fine
Direct-drive?: spur gear was on rear axle so yes
Tyres: Fine
7.4v: Fine

Outside rules: technically "yes". If you want to argue the point that it wasn't direct drive because of the diff then perhaps we need to define "direct drive" or use another appropriate term, but basically all cars with the spur on the rear axle should be silver can only if we are to follow these rules.

Lower voltage? Nah!