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Here is mine:-
Front - Track Washers - 1mm front and back Roll Bar - 1.2 Shock Position Mount - Middle Shock Position Wishbone - Middle Front Rake - 10 Degrees (Std) Front Yoke - 7.5 degrees Washers - 0mm Front Link Bracket - 43mm Washers on Hub - 0 Rear - Wheel Base - Short Toe In - 1.5mm Rear, .5mm front Anti Squat Washers - 1.5mm Rear, 0.5mm Front Rear Link Bracket - 37.5mm Washers - 4mm Shock Position Mount - Middle Shock Position Wishbone - Inside Hub Postion - Mid Roll Bar - 1.2 Shocks Front - 32.5wt (Sch) on 3 Holes Schumacher greys Springs Diaphragm - Centre cut out and removed Ride Height - Wishbones level Rear - 25wt (Sch) on 2 Holes Schumacher red Springs Diaphragm - Centre cut out and removed Ride Height - Wishbones level Transmission- Rear Diff Height - High Front Diff Height - Low Layshaft Pulley - Pin Through Front Drive - Diff Gearing - 80 x 22 on Speed Passion 6.5 Internal Ratio - Std Tyres Yellow Mini Pin all round, Schumacher Green Inserts. |
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hi, simon thank you for the set up and the alls parts you are :thumbsup:
best regars fouad elward from france ! |
I did collect some setups during the Petit, here are some for the CAT SX
Simon Moss Mark Musgrove James Helliwell More CAT SX setups |
I have been running the car outdoors for a couple of weeks now... Car seems nice and quick. I just wondered if anyone else had been running it outdoors, (predominately grass astro tracks) and what was their thoughts, set ups??
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Outdoor Set-Up : Dirt track
Does anybody including the team drivers have a recommended base set-up for the car on a dirt track (not clay!). The tracks here are typically dirt tracks with medium to low traction in different parts of the track.
I will start with the Simon Moss set-up from the Euros and go from there? Is this recommended? Any suggestions would be highly appreciated! Thanks again and awesome car, by the way. |
what was your starting set-up ?. i'd be interested as i'll be running mainly on grass & astro
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Hi Nick
Here is my starting set up; Front - Track Washers - 3mm front and back Roll Bar - No Shock Position Mount - Middle Shock Position Wishbone - Middle Front Rake - 10 Degrees Washers - 0mm Front Link Bracket - 38mm Washers on Hub - 1 gold Rear - Wheel Base - Short Toe In - 4.5mm Rear, 2mm front = 3.25 degrees Anti Squat Washers - 2mm Rear, 2mm Front = 0 degrees Rear Link Bracket - 37.5mm Washers - 5mm Shock Position Mount - Middle Shock Position Wishbone - Inside Hub Postion - Middle Roll Bar - yes Shocks Front - 30wt on 3 Holes Schumacher Grey Springs Diaphragm - Centre cut out and removed Ride Height - level with rear Ackerman link 44mm ctr to ctr. Rear - 25wt on 3 Holes Schumacher Red Springs Diaphragm - Centre cut out and removed Ride Height - Wishbones level Transmission- Rear Diff Height - Low Front Diff Height - Low Layshaft Pulley - one way Front Drive - Diff Gearing - 83 x 21 on LRP 5.5 Internal Ratio - std Speedo settigns 2,3,3,3 Tyres Yellow Mini spike all round, Edit Inserts. Any questions feel free to ask. I think that is it. I am going to try longer ball studs all round, (on shocks) to give the car more droop, next time I race. Also 35wt front oil. I used this at Stotfold at the weekend.. It was actually just dry enough to get away with yellows. Tell me what you think. |
thanks for that. it's given me something to think about.
quick questions :- why the extra wide front track ? (3mm washers) was the front hub cut flat ? how thick was the rear roll bar ? did you try it with the standard width (44mm ?) front link bracket ? cheers nick |
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thanks again - not run the car yet (only finished building it yesterday) but its all good background information when it comes to thrashing (crashing :lol:) it around the coventry astro track.
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The only change I have kept is the medium rate front roll bar. |
I was just wondering if anyone has any setups for indoor carpet high traction and outdoor clay tracks setups, besides the ones on the Schumacher site.
I just joined the Schumacher team and am racing out of Toronto, Canada. Any help would be deeply appreciated. Thanks:thumbsup: |
Mossy's setups are very good, have a look for his that he used in Italy, that'll be what id start with for clay.
For carpet, try mine above, its ace. |
For Carpet, use mine that is posted on the Schumacher website for the Petit RC Race as a starting point.
Si |
Thanks guys,
I tried Simon's Petit Rc setup with some Corally Tire Traction. The car was hooking up and was just great. I'll be using it more often. When the weather gets better, I'll be trying the Italy Euro setup for the clay. :cool: |
QUESTION?
Is there a softer tire than that of the yellow mini-pin? |
No, Yellow is the softest
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hi,
Have you a good starting cat sx's set up for astro track ? thanks for answer |
Sorry, a little off topic. I am looking for some XLS Cat parts. I'm trying to restore my cat from the 80's.
Any help would be deeply appreciated.:confused: |
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Is anyone lese having trouble viewing this? I just get two blanks sheets???
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Apparently the pdf-file on my USB-stick is not working. I'll try uploading a viewable version when I get home. |
I will post a new thread for sure for the Cat XLS. I will post a pic of the old cat.
I'm going to try your setup at the track this weekend, I'll tell you how it goes. I just wanted to know if there any alluminum rear hubs for the new cat, or any other compatible parts for the new cat. I noticed the rear hubs are a little brittle. |
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Yeah it was a BIG rear end hit, twice. It was during practice, and Slasher did me in the first time, and the second was a T4. I haven't broken any since. Gotta watch out for the monsters.
Attached is a pic of the old XLS Cat. |
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Remember : this is a setup for a very high grip astro track, hence the staggered ribs at the front. It's not a universal astro setup. |
hi stefke,
thanks for info but with grey spring on rear it isn't too stif (because it is the same spring als carpet indoor track), have you try red spring?:confused: |
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thanks for the setup! I'm going to try it next week at the track. I haven't tried the Cat with the sway bar in the front yet. Who makes the staggered rib Y tyres?
thanks... |
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Hi guys,
here's my setup for the MVB track in the Netherlands. It's a dirt track some a section with carpet on it. I'm having some difficulties to keep the rear end in the good direction and will need some more stability to make more constant laps. Turn-in steering is brilliant and suits my driving style ver good but coming out of the corner makes the rear end loose. Reading through the replies above I should consider an overdrive pulley and the 7.5 blocks but is there anything more I can do about it without these items? Thanks in advance, Michael Somerwil |
Take a look at the setup on the Schumacher website that i ran at the Euros on Clay. Good place to start if your after something to try.
Si |
OK Si,
I'll switch my setup to yours and give it a try on this weekend's club meeting. Will keep you updated. Gr, Mike |
A few people have emailled me asking for the setup i ran last week at Southport. For those who dont know the track is high grip and pretty bumpy, multi surface throughout.
Front - Track Washers - 1mm front and back Roll Bar - No Shock Position Mount - Middle Shock Position Wishbone - Middle Front Rake - 10 degrees Washers - 3.5mm Front Link Bracket - 43mm Washers on Hub - 0 Front Yokes - 7.5degree alloy, inside hole Rear - Wheel Base - Short Toe In - 2.5mm Rear, .5mm front = 2.6 degrees Anti Squat Washers - 2mm Rear, 0.5mm Front = 1.95 degrees Rear Link Bracket - 37.5mm Washers - 4mm Shock Position Mount - Middle Shock Position Wishbone - Inside Hub Postion - Outside Roll Bar - 1.2 Shocks Front - 30wt on 3 Holes Schumacher Grey Springs Diaphragm - Centre cut out and removed Ride Height - Wishbones level Rear - 27.5wt (mixed Schumacher, not Losi) on 3 Holes Schumacher Red Springs Diaphragm - Centre cut out and removed Ride Height - Wishbones level Transmission- Rear Diff Height - High Front Diff Height - High Layshaft Pulley - Pin Through Front Drive - One Way Gearing - 81 x 24 on Speed Passion 5.5 Internal Ratio - 34 Tooth Pulley This setup will give you a fair bit of steering. Si |
Simons setup as PDF, well it shows that the PDF is too big so sorry:blush:
Cruise |
Here is Simon Moss'setup @ Southport on 12.04.2009
And here is Ralf Missel'setup @ Leonberg on 22-23.03.2009 Both PDF documents were filled by Cruise. Thanks again! |
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I believe there is something wrong with Simon Moss set-up, take a look of front and rear shocks.. Ulrich |
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