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they would work as doubles i just drew them like that to show variation .
i like the qauds but think they would work better if they were a bit bgger by about 50 percent it would give more take off and landing space and allow you to flow through better but two big doubles would be fun to so i drew them in as an option the layout in that drawing is just to show some ideas i had all on one page , the space beetween them would be larger to but bigger reprofiled features with some modifications would change the track a lot sorry its not computer drawing but i think the sketchs show some ideas and give an idea of size |
personally i think it woukd be better with perminant islands like the old track had, would work better i think if changes in height are going to be added
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Yes definatley needing some white and red kurbs islands chevron type of thingy is a must
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I've drawn a bit of something up, very rough and bit of a guess as I don't know the size of the track. I'll try to tidy it a bit tomorrow and post it
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Grass tracks died for a very good reason 1. They rut up very badly especially in sunny old bury where we get a lot of rain, 2. The cars get absolutely covered in shit if it rains. Now I don't know about you but I prefer not to fully rebuild my car every week |
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Gavin, don't fret about us on your bloody honeymoon pal :wub The committee need to meet soonest to discuss what our members are clearly voicing on here. The rest of the committee are free this Friday so are getting on with it. I do know your thoughts, but by all means send me a PM with your points of view and I will relay them at the meeting. All, there are some very positive points of view on here, even some pictures too. Rest assured we as a club are keen to continue to grow and as a committee we are all pretty much in agreement that the track, rostrum etc needs some further enhancements. We have the car park, I know we still need electricity, although we have survived with the genny. I am still very much looking to get a purpose built rostrum, so any work here will need to be none too costly and temporary, The track is a priority, although again moving the rostrum back, subject to cost, is absolutely essential as its currently too close to the track. Anyway, keep your ideas coming we will let you know our plans after the committee meeting on Friday. Darren |
I'm not fretting I just want to be involved. Free wifi in the hotel innit pal, that combined with an iPhone is dangerous. Ok I'll leave it on your very capable hands boys i'll see you in the coming couple of weeks
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I'm not fretting I just want to be involved. Free wifi in the hotel innit pal, that combined with an iPhone is dangerous. Ok I'll leave it in your very capable hands boys i'll see you in the coming couple of weeks
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Forget the purpose built rostrum or moving the cabins this isn't keeping up with the jones's. no need for a roof on the rostrum if its to wet to race on then its to wet to stand up there anyway.
At the moment there's not much intrest by the local scumbags you put a roof on that rostrum and we will be turning up to race Sunday morning and having to evict the chavs out of the little party shelter you have built for them. A rc club is all about the track. When we raced the Oople event last year we didnt come away and say "race control looked very nice" we came away and talked about the doubles and the hairpin its all about the track nothing else matters. Any improvements you intend for race control will be discussed by the committee and put to the members at the agm. Don't waste time on this because I promise it's not what the members want. If I started a thread "new race control" do you think it would have been any where near as popular as this one? No !!!!! |
I agree the rostrum does need moving back about 1 metre for better visibility though.
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The visability I agree is a issue not a priority it can be resolved by not running the track into the corners hey presto everyone can see. No point spending to move it if we are having a new one in a few years after the track is finished.:thumbsup:
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Buds, you may have only read only some of my comments and not all!
I agree the track is what we all race on after all. I just see improvement opportunities alsewhere too! ;) to be clear any new rostrum would have a contained and locked covered rostrum to keep out the locals. :thumbsup: Rest assured we as a club are keen to continue to grow and as a committee we are all pretty much in agreement that the track, rostrum etc needs some further enhancements........ I am still very much looking to get a purpose built rostrum, so any work here will need to be none too costly and temporary, The track is a priority..... Anyway, keep your ideas coming we will let you know our plans after the committee meeting on Friday. Darren[/QUOTE] |
Do it proper and we only have to do it the once:thumbsup:
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Darren I have put a suggestion in to Si about a way to raise visibility and stop the banging roof and not have to move the cabin
He liked it a lot and its a simpler solution as I will sketch it up But pleases listen to the racers we all want a better track before a cabin or shelter I do agree a new clubhouse/ rostron would be ace , But only when we got a track that deserves a palace being built next to it Bmrcc needs more racers and a more challenging track With that it will produce funds to do whatever we need I will try to make it Friday to guys if work allows |
poll added please vote people
so we have a rough idea of what wants doing and by how many |
Thats silly.
Ask people what they want and they'll always say the track, because thats tangible. But it doesn't mean other things don't matter, its just that are more subtle. Lets take race control / rostrum for an example. Now Rog was partially deaf which is probably the only reason he could cope in there - it sounds like having your head in a bucket whilst someone hits it with a hammer. There have been a couple of meetings where I've not been feeling 100% I've seriously thought about pack in early cos it gives me a banging headache. Eric complained about the same at the regional. Now most drivers probably don't care about reducing the noise in race control so if asked where to spend money would never suggest that but they might be slightly upset to find that they have a lovely new track but nobody to run race meetings....... Oh, and on a related subject: It occurred to me the club doesn't have as much money as we think. Because we (for sensible reasons like incompatibility with a lot of members transponders) did not upgrade our timing box to RC4 it is no longer supported by BBK. If it fails (unlikely but still possible) we would need to pay for a new RC4 unit at £1200 or more so we need at least that set aside or no timing. |
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Seeing as were running off a genny, why not do race control outside. If it looks like rain, small gazebo? |
Buds it would be good also to move the rostrum back a few metres too, not so much for the corners but also when the car it directly infront of you like on this table top we're proposing you can't see past your transmitter
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I'm sure you'll get it sorted it seems like we are singing off the same hymn sheet
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Sorry but without reading too much into it, a roofed rostrum will surely attract more of the kids off the estate and turn it into more of a "dos house" or place to trash?
1. Do it and risk it.. 2. Go the extent of making it more secure (e.g. a gate, door) (more expense)... |
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What the hell is that in his hand, gay boy
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Can you edit that and do a comedy drawing of Si |
Non of the drawings have been done by me all johnnys work but he says he can't upload pics
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And why is a two tier ROSTRUM necessary bud? A roof is more needed. So what if we need to shift a few bottles and cans? I'd take that over getting blown all over and piss wet through anyday! They're just kids after all. Nothing to worry about. They play on the track.... So what what harm do they actually do? If rather be sheltered if I'm honest
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I'm not into the 2 tier rostrum johnnys drawing. A roof will have to be made of metal and would cost a fortune. You do know that skin is water proof?
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Poll is biased to leading questions, e.g. doesn't allow several choices....
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Biased?? So is a general election biased because you can only pick one
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Leading and closed questions do not promote discussion - sorry teacher mode there.
The problem we had with the roof at the old track was that it meant the rostrum was being used as a drinking den and they then flung the bottles off. That meant we frequently arrived to broken glass on the track and around it. In all other aspects it wasn't really an issue - they used to graffiti the rostrum sides but so what? Occasionally they'd try to knock out the side panels and there would be a bit of litter but again of no consequence. Smashed bottles however are dangerous..... |
Why is it always about the kids who may or may not cause damage or whatever that's why we don't have a jump on track now
Can we not just build what we want and worry about it after It seems that vandals/ kids are more important than actually having decent facilities eg track and rostron modifications Like I said why So much naysaying and worrying We want better track and facilities we are an Rc club after all And if any one don't like the drawings then upload your own suggestions they are welcome to give us all an idea pf what to do instead of talking , bury needs some positive actions And less bullshit and worry about what could happen in the worst case Things have been ok generally for the last few years Lets hope it lasts And if multiple options were available in the poll then it would not give a clear indication of what people really want In reality it's gonna be a long process altering both the track and race controll / rostron so the poll allows one choice to see what's really wanted first And I think meshing the top of the rostron to stop the dancing elephants is a quick cheap fix that could be done soon and solve one problem immediately so at least Si or whoever a in there don't go deaf C'mon guys stay positive upload ya drawings A picture speaks a thousand words |
Put a roof on the rostrum and have the stairs inside the cabin, with a hatch on the roof maybe ?
Move the rostrum back, this is a good idea its too close and you cant see the corners becuase of transmitters. And i hate when you have to look straight down When your car comes that close. The problem with bury (my opinion) is you have 6 obstacles and no features. Joinig each obstacle is a flat piece of astro, i agree with buds some surface changes would be good but more undulations would be better. |
I just don't see the point of moving race control it was a big enough job just getting the stairs up.
Why move it back 3 feet when we could just not use the first 3 feet of track put a long hose from top to bottom this will also be usefull for marshalling. As for the table top in the top corner I just turn that into a massive banked corner which should be easy enough to do with it being in the corner |
So in your quest to improve the track you are willing to give up 3ft along the entire length of the track? Not 'best use of space' is it?
That said my idea won't work. If we moved the rostrum back, the (public) path behind race control would need to be in front instead, and that means there would still need to be a fence there. So the improved view of the track is through the fence which isn't great either. And this is the point of what I'm doing here. Its not naysaying or negativity - its called thinking stuff through. Simple plain reality is that there are NO perfect solutions, we can't please everybody and every plan has its downsides. What needs to be done it to consider the various pro's and con's and decide what is in the best interests of the club. Which I might point out isn't always the same as the interests of a few loud mouthed forum users :p |
I say we move the track 3 feet away from the rostrum then. ;)
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Alright lads?
There seems to have been a lot of comments regarding the local chavs when talking about putting a roof on the rostrum which seems to be getting massively out of hand. If we put a locked gate at the top of the steps onto the rostrum under the roof it would take some particularly determined, Spider Man-like kids to get up there especially carrying a bag of bootleg blue WKD's! Surely this is by far the best and most cost effective way to achieve what we want? Johnny, sorry mate but what on earth do we need a two tier rostrum for? This will neither keep us dry nor move the rostrum back. As a short term solution all we need to do is mark a line around half a metre back from the railings on the rostrum as they do at other clubs and your vantage point will be slightly improved, personally I haven't really noticed a problem with the current position, yes it could be better but it's not a priority. As for the track, reprofiling what we have now and introducing undulations and level changes and possibly a few surface changes, even if its just lower bite astro would be a start we don't need to reinvent the wheel IMO. With all due respect to the designers and builders of which I will be lending a hand I don't want us to do too much too soon and possibly end up with a bit of a mess. Must my opinion Chris |
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This makes sense. Re profile to current features and go from there. Some cheap astro and a bit of dirt for surface change and there we have it. |
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