ok mate i'll give jim spencer a ring after lunch.
just tell me what you want to know.

I too would like to see bury thrown in the mix and while we`re at it, southport :D

would it be possible if all involved agree, to spilt northeast / northwest in to equal club regions including bury southport what ever,
or as lee said add southport bury into northeast, and run 4 to count from 6-7 clubs then if people dont wont or cant afford to travel they can still do there 4 local clubs and miss the two furthest away or 1 furthest away you get my idea

I think the reasons given include (credit given to those who initially wrote them in this thread):

To qualify for the BRC finals, or EOY finals, you need to be best in your region. I don't think it's right to be the best in half a region, as it detracts from the qualification procedure, and also dilutes the achievement. It is a greater accolade to be UK NE champion, than Champion of half of the North East.

The BRCA NE regional is to give people the chance to compete against all of the people from the geographical reason you are in, so if there was NNE and SNE, then I wouldnt have the opportunity to compete against all of the drivers.

As Dan says, more competitors is the key for a great days racing.

You would lose the social side of camping over, if meetings are on your doorstep.

Costs of fuel can be offset by car sharing, and is negligable compared to cost of racing

if anything it would be better as one big region we would have 3 good permanent venues in bury batley and southport and then have york durham and teesside or jarrow etc

The distance doesn`t bother me i go for a good time and to have fun, if i do well its a bonus:)

I like the idea of weekenders too i think these give a good feel to a meeting .

Check out yesterdays results :-http://www.srcc.co.uk/index.php?pid=150
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Lee, from what I remember of this years consortium meeting, we had no reply from Bury club to say they would like to be considered for a N/E regional this year!! We can only consider clubs if they put themselves forward!!

Thats fair enough simon, im not really in the know when it comes to the behind the scenes stuff :)

Chris theres always two sides of the coin, if you split it in two you would get twice as many at the end of year finals 10 NE and 10 from northwest clubs just imagine poor old Johny thats 11th in your region and cant do eoyf because he isn't high enough in a low region turn out NW he may get in problem solved for little Johny lol, as said a adding together in my other post may work theres more than one way

Will the calendar allow for that many regionals?

Batley Weekender
Bury Weekender
Southport Weekender
Teesside weekender
Jarrow 2WD
Jarrow 4WD
South Shields Weekender

Thats atleast 7 weekends?

We were limited to a lot less than that this year.

And, as has been said, regionals are to race against people in your region, not half a national event.

Carl, would we get 10 places each for EOY finals, or 5 each?

Clarky, can you ask Jim how the boundries are decided for regionals, and what a regional should be achieving as an event.

okey dokey

i cant be asrsed the read the hole 5 pages of this shit like them tight yorkshire ppl who wont travel... i took my car to york indoor 17mpg from shields . go race grayhounds then like ya should be . i should try that like coz am gettin no where out door:p

Agree,

but please keep it One North East

http://www.oople.com/forums/images/icons/icon4.gif splitting would mean less events for me & possibly other and I would consider selling kit if I only had 3 regionals to go at. At present my kit gets used @ regionals, F3's, Vets and other one day events that get out on.

The above may be the case for other drivers to so you'd end up with less drivers and the clubs would suffer

I like racing :drool: but not the politics :thumbdown:

Is this Ashleys attempt at geordie :thumbdown:

he hacked my account lol

you'll find it's not the yorkshire guys duncan, it's the northwest guys (i don't know what they do):eh?:

barrrrrrrrrrrrrrr a would not want to say

They are virtually welsh :lol:

Always the diplomat!! :rolleyes:

:lol:

its a good job mr pack has not got the net. That be a good one .... him and bmag could battle it out

this is the second time in the last month you have slated "yorkshire" now i think YOU seem to be the one who seems to make a divide between far north and southern north or whatever you want to call it, talk like that is unaceptable in my eyes :thumbdown: i will race anywere even though i struggle for money but it doesnt want me to waste my money to race people with attitudes like you. we have a good laugh at the meettings and DONT single out clubs/regions or people.

if u like a good laff u should be laffin coz thats what it is a joke ...

Well said -

like has been said, you cant tell how something is intended when reading a computer screen.

Why can't everyone just get on?? :thumbsup:

don't lump us all in with duncan we don't all hold his veiws:D
but i think he's just kidding

i know when to laff believe me.

back on the topic of the split i myself like i have said struggle with cost BUT i wouldnt want to jeprodise losing venues to race at and not meeting the people we do from the far north or these clubs going down the pan so i think i will just put up with it just for the love of racing :thumbsup:

I don't think anything needs to change.

The NE has a good region, it has more clubs and more racers, and more weekends of racing. There regional is of a different nature to the NW due to this.

The NW has a good region, it has 2 clubs and less racers than NE or even the MW, and due to this, having just 6 events at 2 tracks suits just fine.

Think of the guys from Southport, if they suddenly had Batley/York or where-ever in the NW calender, then suddenly what should be a simple regional series one year becomes a long journey which I reckon they'd struggle to justify doing, people like Russ Dyson, Chris Burgess & family, Barry Weldon, these are the people we need to race at regionals year after year - we need to encourage attendance for the regionals, and a split would change that. (CB, RD, BW, or any other Southport guys, speak up if im wrong guys ;))

There is the possibility of a club being part of two regions on separate events, like Bury did in 2006/2007, doing this it could be made so the NE is unaffected and the NW is bigger..... but again, its changing the nature of the regionals and the distance is not fair for the guys over by Southport. This decision is also to be made by the club and the regional rep involved.

What we do need, is another club in the region - such as Chorley, Oldham, Leigh, Bolton, Rochdale..... we have had clubs at all these places in the years gone by, but have been long since closed which is very unfortunate, we're suffering now. :(

To sum it up, Carl I do agree we need more tracks in the NW, but I disagree with the distance if adding any of the current NE tracks (even Batley). I also would be against it being any more than 6 Sundays in the year. We just need a new club to open - fancy doing that mate? :D

Chris

no way mate, top lads up far north :thumbsup:

your forgetting York aswell
Please keep everything as it is there no need for all this, everyone has to travel up north and everyone has to travel down south, at the end of the day most people will be paying similar amounts for fuel and i'm sure that most people who participate in regional events can afford the fuel to get there, as it is this year it's best 3 out of 4 so that's 3 rounds of 4wd or 2wd or both, whats all the fuss about, there is no need to split this region at all over abit of fuel, it's great as it is, the events are about having a good laugh and if you do well in them thats a bonus!
Please don't split the region or try add too many events to it it's PERFECTLY FINE as it is
Certainly not impressed by what djduncaz has said...:thumbdown:

well my mileage adds up like this , but who cares if your having fun.

hull-york= 46 miles
hull-batley= 59 miles
hull-bury= 95 miles { all each way }
hull-southport= 134 miles
hull-jarrow= 141 miles
hull-south sheilds= 143 miles

total 1236 and that doesnt include going to the off licence and kebab shop :p

lol lee were was ya born and brought up,:p

Cant say:lol:

cowardly dog lmao lee is a northwesty, but then i guess he will say he moved further up north after he saw the light, but wont say what that light was lmfao.

ha ha no in all honesty give me the NW anyday over the NE

just spoken to jim spencer and he said if you want to change any regional series you must make a proposal through your regional rep to be discused at the regional meeting, and then if they decide it should be tried they then have to propose it to the executive committie then they discuse it and if they think it's a good idea it would be put to the vote at the agm.

so no:1 propose it to your regional rep
no:2 they propose it to the exec committie
no:3 we vote at the agm at the end of the year

as for the regional boundaries the off road exec committie decide on regional boundaries.

as for lee i didn't know you were the only one in the village:lol:

...and I'd imagine they will look at the club in question on a map and say its within boundaries of a geographical region, as all regions of England are covered.


Lee, PLEASE tell me thats not your arse in your avatar!! :p :wtf:

what i think should be done is instead of just asking people to move things around to suit there regional people need to get up off there ar#es and do something about bringing more people in to there region.

like contacting the local press to come along to a regional or club night.

do some flyers and hand them out (southport must have a lot of people passing through.

invite the local mayor or MP along to do trophy presentations at a race (the press love all that with the mayor)

start putting race days on at school open days or summer fairs or carnivels.

hand out flyers at the local schools inviting them along and dig out 3 or 4 old cars and let the kids play (for free)

give it a go you may have fun to:p

I've missed a lot of this discussion, but how the hell did we get onto Southport having a NE Regional, I thought the idea of a 'split' was to decrease traveling :confused:

n/east works just fine for me:Ddon't mind traveling 2 hour's each way,for jarrow etc..in a perfect world,we would all live in the middle along with the venues:lol:im just greatfull we have clubs/people who are putting regional's on for us in the n/east.i see this year's n/east as a mini national serie's:pdone all the round's up to now,and loving it:Dcost of living,rising fuel cost's is going to have a big impact on our hobby,in my view.no matter were we race.