Will you tell them to stop ringing my i was only trying to find out how much a lambo would cost to insure.

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Morrisons!! Plus its never a 100% full tank, I normally do 480-485 miles on a tank with some to spare.

they were ripped when i bought them ...:D

Spencer, done the tent stuff before and love it, but at the moment (with the missus being a SERIOUS asthmatic...and preggers with the twins) the cold in the night and damp tents don't react very well with the old lungs etc.:thumbdown: So we have to keep her nice and dry n warm.:thumbsup:

Otherwise we'd do that.
I'm quite happy to tent it on my own If they don't come with me.
Which I may do if they don't happen to come to any nats.:)

So nearly everywhere in the UK, gasoline and diesel prices are over 4 pounds ($8 USD) per gallon?

We just hit $4.199 USD per gallon here in north central USA (Milwaukee, Wisconsin area).

Highest I've seen round here is £131.9 per Litre

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Diesel is about £5 a gallon over here:o

But we do get an extra 0.8 litres to our gallon in the uk:lol:

100 pence = 1 Br. pound? Excuse my typical US ignorance! :thumbdown:

Northy, you mean 1.319 Br. pound per litre? If my math is right, that is $9.884 per gallon! WOW!

EDIT: Just checked... diesel selling around here for $4.599-4.699 per gallon. I'd have a hard time keeping my R/C racing addiction going too if I lived there. It's too bad. :(

Yes , correct, its around £1.25 per litre where i live

£5.65 per UK Gallon:cry:

$9.30 per US gallon:(

Its not cheap

That is the highest price round here, it can be found for as little as 121.9p per litre if you shop around - bargain. :o

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I just filled up my Golf (Petrol) and it was £60.75, at £1.15 a litre..... Not hit the £60 mark before, not with this car anyway, and that's all for 300 Miles driving Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat :mad:

Having just bought a 2nd car it just adds to my reasoning as to why i can't carry on racing, i could probably do it on a budget but the last thing i want is to go racing and do crap just because of Tyres etc, that really is no fun from my point of view - i only ever like to be able to blame errors / mistakes for not getting the right result, not tyres :-(

Maybe the RC community should get a petition up and send it to government to lower prices, or it could seriously hurt the hobby/sport?

Not just ours but a whole host of others too.

There's sooo many reasons but I just can't see it changing at the moment.

Years ago when my dad was racing Motocross, they tried to ban the sport then due to the usage of Fuel, but the organisers were quick to point out that the amount of fuel getting used every day/night & weekend for people to go Fishing far out-weighed any fuel that was getting used at all the motocross races going on at any weekend!

Travelling is a big issue - i just can't see anything being done about it though - petitions are always a good start!

Over here in NI the fuel is about £1.12/litre for petrol and 1.33/litre for diesel. Diesel is a lot more common here hence why its now more expensive.

A quick 9 mile drive and we can get diesel for £1.02/litre from the south, not sure what the petrol prices are over there.

To get prices of fuel down.
1 - Help the US economy - This can be done purchasing approx £1.2 Trillion pounds worth of RC spares
2 - Strengthen the dollar - OPECs petro dollar will go further and will be able to buy more gold toilet seat bling
3 - Then ask OPEC to stop stiffling supply as their Petro Dollar can now afford many RC parts
4 - When using your car ensure you push it up all hills, freewheel down hills and only use the motor to recharge the Battery after you have nearly flattened it with peaking RC cells.

Right then, who's up for it!:lol:

What annoys you though, is when the fuel companies mention (like the other week) that they made, so many billions profit last year!!

Surely, they could still survive loosing 1/2billion profit from their 30bn and cut the price of the fuel?

Rediculous. Basically laughing in our faces and nowts being done. Yet the other year there were road blocks etc because the fuel was about to hit 80p!
Where have all these people gone to?

Although Crude Oil has gone up its still really TAX that cripples the motorist.....

I heard on the news tonight that oil hit $135 per barrell and it's due to go up even higher!!! It was $65 per barrell this time last year, so fuel prices are set to go even higher:cry:

........ remember a couple of things.

1) The largest part of the cost of fuel is TAX. Remember there is TAX on the fuel used to deliver the fuel, on the overall amount (VAT) and obviously the duty on the fuel you by itself.

2) The petro-chemical companies don't make much profit at all at the pumps, certainly no more than 10% of the pre-tax prices! They make their profits from the by-products of refining oil based products, other energy industrial sectors and by investment in futures etc (trust me most big multinational companies make more money playing on the money markets than by their products .... no matter what the industry).

3) The majority of petrol stations are not owned by the big oil companies and they don't make their money on the fuel you buy either ..... more so on the crap you buy whilst walking through (food, drinks, mags & papers ...... etc.)


If you want to see fuel prices fall in this country do something about the government ....all those thinking of voting red again ... well it's your funeral!!!!

Wise words Roger, i agree with all the above 100%

appreciated, but Shell made record profits of 13billion last year, and a record 5.4 billion in the last quater of last year.
Yes the majority of the price is TAX, but it just annoys you when you here that these people are making this much profit.

I know mentioning it on here wont have any effect on it at all, but surely something needs to be done between the fuel companies and the gov. to stop it going out of control.

Companies are already closing doors because they can't afford fuel for their fleets etc.


.....are we going slightly off topic?:lol:

Only slightly Tel ........ LOL

More high taxes to pay for our nanny state. If they reduce fuel then they would get it some other way.

The country is crippled by all the "hangers on" claiming every benefit under the sun. Single mothers bringing up four kids by three different moronic fathers. The only example of daily effort the kids see is Mother popping to the shop for another packet of fags or to the Post Office to pick up the benefits. How do the kids stand a chance ? The future of the UK. Scum breed more scum and ironically, breeding is all they seem to be good at. Have you been into a Post Office lately ? Id hate working there ( Ash you had a lucky escape IMO ). I had to hold my breath today in the que when i was stood behind a teenage girl with two kids in toe. She plain stank of BO. Clothes filthy with the bottoms of her grubby trousers trailing on the floor all frayed. Swore at the kid because he wanted a toy from the shelf. I felt so sorry for the little lad i felt like buying it for him. Shes was stood on her bloody mobile phone whilst being served. Rude arrogant scum !

Argh ! :thumbdown:

even though I rarely race I would never sell up...Need something to think about to take my mind away from work and all the other stressful stuff. Even just running in a car park once a week or performing maintenance at home/repairing breakages is a great distraction.

We do need to car share more, especially for Nationals. I filled up the jag yesterday and it cost £73!.. never been over £70.. it is crazy... and that wont last me a week.

Ching Ching!!!! I agree big time with that, I dont see why I should give up, at least I can take the kids with me (when I knock the Mrs up) and have some fun getting them involved.

I've read a lot of this thread, but if this point has been made, and I missed it, apologies...

Is it the case that more people are selling up, or is it the case that in a modern World, with Flea-Bay, Oople, and a myriad other on-line ways of selling stuff, are we just more aware when people do sell up?

In days gone by, RC participation moved with the economy - it's up and people join in, it's down and people have to give up. Back then, things were sold at Clubs and Nationals and through the local newspaper, shop and things like Exchange and Mart.

We have had a growing economy since 1996, a time when the internet didn't really exist, no one had heard of pay-as-you-go mobiles, text messages, GPS, Digital TV, broadband, NiMH, 2.4Ghz... I could go on. Prior to that there was boom and bust every five years, so it wasn't unusual to see people sell up.

This is the first time in over 10 years that people's pockets have been hit hard, and so we see a lot of people selling up - and this time we can see them do it. I'm not sure that there are any more people leaving the hobby in a downturn than there have been the last time this happened, but the key difference is that it can be seen.

The other thing we don't know is whether people are selling up from the main class on this forum (Electrics, and Off-Road in particular) and going to Gas - Rallycross, Large Scale, etc.

Nice to see some people taking the family to the Club and the Nationals. I used to do the monthly Chesham meetings, and there were lots of families on the sunny days, and the same at Nationals. When the sun shines, Off-Road has great appeal, but my class (12th) at least guarantees I don't get wet and have to clean a muddy car! :D

Do you know, thats one thing you don't see much of when you race 'on road'.....families.

More off roaders seem to take the family along with them.:thumbsup:

That's why I got into off-road all those years ago, everyone was very welcoming and non-judgmental. I still think it's true, the off-road gang just seem to take things less seriously.

Well, if this selling up is due to a downturn in the economy, I hope things perk up again soon and everyone re-buys their stuff. What goes down must come up and all that. :)

When you were going on about tax,you do realise that it is currently running at 83pence/litre.Even this will be out of date now,(that was when we were only paying a max of 1.07/litre).

I didn't know The Daily Mail had an account on here :woot:

But really, you need to get a smaller brush so you don't tar everyone with that same brush. I am one of those 'hangers on' as you so call, ok, I worked for 14 years for the government, and divorce beckoned, I had the children, and, well I couldn't bring myself to dump them in child care every day to go to work, so decided to be old fashioned, and bring my own children up....

But I also understand about the teen mothers, we have a few here and it is depressing to see at times, but we live in a promiscuous society where sleeping around is seen as a good thing and not a bad thing.... but we digress from the thread.

I think the cost of living is one factor for people to pack in, plus lots starting families etc, in the end, luxuries go before the essentials, and racing is a luxury...

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I haven't got any issue with anyone else wanting 4,5,6, or more kids. I just don't expect to have to fund them myself through ever increasing taxes.

I live in an area where teen pregnancy is amongst the highest in the country. I stand by what i said. I have no issues with anyone claiming benefits who aren't able to work. Its just those who see it as a career in its own right who get up my nose :)

I read the other day that the Daily Mail is short of columnists - your CV seems good!

This is just the sort of mis-informed b******s that you accuse the single mums and moronic fathers of. We have one of the lowest tax rates in Europe, and yet we have the highest rates of teenage pregnancy. We also have one of the least supportive Social Security system in Europe, and yet one of the highest rates of crime.

Of the almost £500bn a year the Government gets in tax, less than £90bn goes on Social Security. More goes to the NHS. Indeed, more of your taxes go to companies operating services under the the Private Finance Initiative than goes to single mums. If you really want to get 'Daily Mail' about something, go ape about the PFI. Also, go ape about the £30bn-odd HMG has spent on failed IT projects over the last few years.

If you want to be rightly indignant, there is much more waste of our taxes on things other than large families and single mums, it's just that you have to do a bit more work than watch Sky and read the Daily Mail. And, you have to vote and do something to change the situation. If that's too hard, there's always emigration...

Give it a rest; its not big, its not clever, and its not right.