I agree with grayslick, we need to confirm rules for the mini class before the summer season starts.

As a guide I propose going with Gordy's rules at the start of this thread as a basis with the following points added:-
MUST be Mardave chassis V12 design (inclusive of Carbon and GRP)
Motor limit for Open class - 13.5T brushless 19t brushed
Motor limit for "stock" 20turn brushed (17.5T brushless)
Batteries ANY 2S lipo or 6Cell for open and stock classes

All other 1/12th vehicle types (2WD ONLY), Tamiya, Schumacher etc...can race in the Mardave mini class but will not be entered into the points championship. Race allocation during practice and finals will be based on the current club points system. Both classes will race together based on ability rating. At the end of the season the top three points scorers from each class will be awarded the respective championship trophies. (This saves alot of time for the race control).

All cars will be randomly and independently scrutineered by Gordy and AN Other (possibly myself) to ensure class rules are adhered to.
Any irregularities will be reviewed by Gordy & AN Other with points deductions being the penalty if found to be racing outside of the proposed rules.

Any new vehicles type can be proposed into these rules for the Winter series review no later than 1 month before the new season.

Don't forget that this is a fun class of racing with FUN being the operative word.

If you accept this proposal please indicate by using the :thumbdown: or :thumbsup: icons.

Thanks for your time

Si

hmmm

sorry si but I think potentially having brushless 17.5t stock cars and brushed 19t open cars just seems bonkers to me. :confused:

for simplicity should it be stock=brushed and open=brushless, especially as the brushless systems also tend to offer more setup/configuration options?

it will probably end up that way anyway by default. But we need to allow a brushed and brushless option in both classes IMO.
After all it's the BRCA that stipulates equivalent brushed/brushless compatability
Other than that are you happy with the rules in particular points scoring all grouped together with randon scrutineering?

Si

Ok, if we need to adhere to BRCA rules then fine, I just think it confuses it. I'm happy with the rest of it :thumbsup:

Now get back to work! :yawn:

Cheers Grayslick,

that's 1 down 20 to go...

the more I've thought about this, the more I think it's pointless having a stock and an open class, might as well just have one class :confused:

There was a meeting after racing on Friday about this. One class was pretty much what came out of that too. Having stock = brushed and open = brushless does make some sense, as the only reason for going brushed is really to keep speeds down. This because the driver may be less experienced. We all know it isn't a cost thing - in fact after a few months the brushed cost will keep going up and costing more and more, replacing £10 Saturn motors on a regular basis.

Ok, if we dont split it stock = brushed and open = brushless then we should just have one class

I am happy to have one open class with a brushless restriction to 13turn
No brushed restriction

votes please

Stock and Open class or
Open class only....

This topic needs to be resolved tomorrow night ie we dont leave without agreeing something. This topic is also being discussed off oople so there are plenty of thoughts being thrown around

I think superstox should be allowed from the start of the winter series :)

So, r we goings allow supastox ino next seasons mini championship?

Frankly there are too many at the club not to. Must be getting on for 50% of the class. I can't see a problem including them. However, if they are, I would like to see a rule change to the Mardaves allowing non-Mardave specific upgrades to be fitted. This would allow (for example) a Supastox diff to be fitted to a Mardave chassis. And 'other manufacturers' as well. :)