:lol::lol: And when you opened the box you realised just how standard jamies car was..............nt:o:woot:

Progressive suspension is notoriously ridiculously hard to set up, which should be the effect the pred achieves with it's laydown suspension (if i understand the geometry correctly) it also has a lot more tuning options on it from what I've seen, rear toe for instance (although I admit I haven't looked that closely).
All of these in the right hands are valuable tools, and in the wrong hands something else to not get right. Personally I'm in the wrong hands group (so far :woot:) although I'd love the option of changing the rear toe on my B4.

Think that's kinda what the original poster was poking at with the joke stick. :thumbsup:

rear toe can be altered on the b4 buy changing rear hubs, after market items are available

Pointless thread, needs closing.

too true m8

well it was one of those manta rays with the RW top force style conversion, so I could pretend it was the same........ ish! http://www.pistonheads.com/inc/images/silly.gif

Sorry just wanted to add some levity to the thread. Good luck to everyone running a Pred.

That's the thing, most people don't realise how clever the Pred is due to the progressive suspension - there's not been another off road car with this!

Once set-up you will hardly ever have to change it but i still believe this car could make regular top 10's in the right hands.

I can't help but look at this whole sponsorship as a way to gain drivers and still make money as they've given people a chance to feel like they're sponsored but haven't ACTUALLY sponsored anyone (in my book, sponsored really means an A-Team drive where you don't pay for things) - i'm not saying there's anything wrong with it at all, but they've probably managed to get people to drive the car that otherwise wouldn't have due to them offering them "sponsorship" so to speak - Quite clever really!

Yep, Ive had a B team drive, and that year racing cost me more than when I was unsponsered. As I was lured by the drive, And yes there were more sponsered drivers driving the car in question than unsponsered.

Nick Goodall = nail-head-hitter, my point exactly (reffering to my previous post)

Righty i started this thread as a innocent joke what has got out of hand!!!!
First thing, i was not dissing the car in any shape or form i have never driving a pred so how can i judge it?
And i was not having a go at garry or the mandys about the sponsership deal there have got, good luck to them hope they do well:thumbsup:

The joke was aimed at shane who seems to change his cars more than his socks, which he and everyone knows is just the guys at our club having a laugh.

It doesnt matter what cars we drive we all do it cos we enjoy it:D. And if anyone wants to have a laugh and a joke(like me) try not to take it to heart most of us dont mean any harm..