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telboy 29-03-2009 07:01 PM

Well, Awesome opening race.!:thumbsup:

Despite Hamilton being promoted after the race and gaining 2 places through messrs Kubica's and Vettels uselessness...I think Hammy had a good performance form 18th! Not exactly Senna quality but good none the less.

But a great day for Brawn, button and barricello.

...But I think that Malaysia will be a totally different story, and with those long straights, I think that the KERS cars may have more of an edge than at Melbourne.

rich_cree 29-03-2009 07:17 PM

Arse......

Northy 29-03-2009 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich_cree (Post 223555)
Arse......

I'm guessing Mr. V won't be Mr. popular back at the factory Rich? :lol:

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DCM 29-03-2009 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telboy (Post 223547)
Well, Awesome opening race.!:thumbsup:

Despite Hamilton being promoted after the race and gaining 2 places through messrs Kubica's and Vettels uselessness...I think Hammy had a good performance form 18th! Not exactly Senna quality but good none the less.

But a great day for Brawn, button and barricello.

...But I think that Malaysia will be a totally different story, and with those long straights, I think that the KERS cars may have more of an edge than at Melbourne.

watching it, it acts more like a 'push to pass' type of button, so I really don't know, unless they can get a full charge at each heavy braking point?

Good race though.... some real 'bod' moments though, think I seen Vettel and Kubica racing at my club today, lol

strobe 29-03-2009 07:33 PM

Certainly the 'B' factor today. Brawn, Button, Barrichelo and Branson. Looks like he is going to back the team and promote his Virgin low emmition fuel?

telboy 30-03-2009 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 223560)
I'm guessing Mr. V won't be Mr. popular back at the factory Rich? :lol:

G

I don't think it was Vettels fault personally. I think he had the inside line and Kubica moved in on him.....THEN, nailed the throttle to push vettel off the track!! So I think the penalty was a bit harsh. Also, why did Barricello not get the same penalty for 'causing an unavoidable accident'....twice!
And the steward decisions are supposed to be more consistent this year!:lol:

How Kubica ever thought he could get through that next corner without a front wing is beyond me!:confused:

Kubi is a good driver, but from what I heard on the practice sessions radio transmissions, he doesn't know how to get the car to work. You heard Button etc. on their radios, and they were like "I need more of this, so we need to alter these. and to provide me with more of that, we need to alter this.....etc.etc." But Kubi didn't have a clue. He was just saying "I don't know why the car doesn't work. I don't know what to do with it, its like its driving itself"....obviosly, in a morbid polish accent.

SlowOne 31-03-2009 07:30 AM

Vettel's penalty wasn't for the accident, it was for driving a damaged car instead of pulling up. The Rules are quite clear - if the car has no chance of continuing, driver must pull over immediately. He got hammered for that, not the collision with Kubica.

As for that - two young drivers, both with competitive cars not having doubtful diffusers who might inherit 10 points if the Brawn is banned (those 'B's again!! :D) wanting to get as good a place as possible. One thinks the other has c**p tyres and won't fight, the other thinks he can defend anything and get away with it. Cue accident waiting to happen.

And before anyone comes on with another version of blame and stupidity, tell me you've never done this on the track yourself!! People in glass houses...

Southwell 31-03-2009 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telboy (Post 224034)
I don't think it was Vettels fault personally. I think he had the inside line and Kubica moved in on him.....THEN, nailed the throttle to push vettel off the track!! So I think the penalty was a bit harsh. Also, why did Barricello not get the same penalty for 'causing an unavoidable accident'....twice!

Rubens said afterwards he was hit from behind on the start, which put him into Webber, whether that's correct or not i don't know.

It seems as though Brawn haven't really got an advantage over their rivals as they were all pegging him quite well, whether he was driving within himself and others were pushing hard remains to be seen, they might be able to go a lot quicker but no-one knows.

Southwell 31-03-2009 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 223561)
watching it, it acts more like a 'push to pass' type of button, so I really don't know, unless they can get a full charge at each heavy braking point?

Good race though.... some real 'bod' moments though, think I seen Vettel and Kubica racing at my club today, lol

Kers will only give you an advantage on acceleration, the top speeds are still the same for all cars. Hamilton showed how to use it to good effect and get himself up from the back of the grid. Once they perfect the system and ballast i think they could eventually have an advantage over non kers cars.

Southwell 02-04-2009 09:31 AM

Hamilton dq'd and Trulli promoted back to 3rd.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7978186.stm

timmy121 02-04-2009 10:02 AM

what the hell wish they would make up there mind

millzy 02-04-2009 10:11 AM

have you guys been on the red button this week?

go to sports mulitscreen


they got the Oz highlights and then if you select option 4 you can watch highlights from the malaysia gp starting from 1999 to 2008 :):)

Fabs 02-04-2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowOne (Post 224139)
Vettel's penalty wasn't for the accident, it was for driving a damaged car instead of pulling up. The Rules are quite clear - if the car has no chance of continuing, driver must pull over immediately. He got hammered for that, not the collision with Kubica.

As for that - two young drivers, both with competitive cars not having doubtful diffusers who might inherit 10 points if the Brawn is banned (those 'B's again!! :D) wanting to get as good a place as possible. One thinks the other has c**p tyres and won't fight, the other thinks he can defend anything and get away with it. Cue accident waiting to happen.

And before anyone comes on with another version of blame and stupidity, tell me you've never done this on the track yourself!! People in glass houses...

Wrong Vettel's penalty was for the accident and the fine was for driving with a damaged car.

IMHO it was 100% Kubica's fault, you could see on the helicopter shots that he aimed for the apex even though Vettel's car was there. Had he been reasonable and taken a line that left Vettel some space, he'd have gone past at the corner's exit and come 2nd.

Rich D 02-04-2009 11:01 AM

What! ?

Hamilton/McLaren penalised AGAIN !!! :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :(

The F1 Gestapo strikes again.

Body Paint 02-04-2009 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich D (Post 225101)
What! ?

Hamilton/McLaren penalised AGAIN !!! :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :(

The F1 Gestapo strikes again.

It's a F****g joke aint it.... I guess nothing changes:rolleyes:

Rich D 02-04-2009 11:09 AM

I reckon id of quit by now despite the £ ! - its getting silly !

Northy 02-04-2009 11:10 AM

I've said it before, but I'll say it again, the FIA are a bunch of cock ferrets! :thumbdown::thumbdown:

G

xjr14 02-04-2009 11:18 AM

Well Northy is right in general, but not in this specific case. Just my opinion. It`s still a joke in a way as the average, non-nerd person will never understand all of this. Decisions and races HAVE to be understandable for those people who just tune in by accident because nothing else is on the telly....

Fabs 02-04-2009 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich D (Post 225101)
What! ?

Hamilton/McLaren penalised AGAIN !!! :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :(

The F1 Gestapo strikes again.

This is funny... So last year there were claims that the FIA was in favour of Ferrari... But this time, the Ferraris didn't even finish so it's to no advantage for them. Still people claim Hamilton and Mc Laren are being treated with unfairness... You guys might have to consider the idea that there could be a good reason for that.

What about Trulli? Was it fair that he got a penalty even though he didn't do anything wrong ? Surely if Hamilton passed him under safety car then let him through again, then he deserved that 3rd place...

Northy 02-04-2009 11:28 AM

Now just to clarify, I'm not saying this is the wrong decision, but just that it shouldn't have taken a week to decide. I agree with xjr14, Joe Blogs won't understand any of this and just won't bother watching it next time.

Aparently, when LH overtook JT (cos he went 'off' under safety car conditions like a pleb) they were asking if they had to let him back past? Should they? Did JT deserve his place back? Well they got no answer. Perhaps there's no rule for being a cock under safety car conditions?

I see an opening for Mr. PW, to tighten up the F1 rule book and keep them all in line. :lol::lol::lol:

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