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big si 27-01-2007 12:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by losixxx (Post 22471)
NO THEY CAN'T MARK
from the keyboard of jim spencer

The section rules in the BRCA handbook anly apply to nationals, sanctioned events and other events that want to run to them.
So some clubs and regional series run to strict BRCA rules, and some don't, you need to check with your likely racing location / class to see if they allow LiPo's or not.


the way this reads leads you to the answer if a host club allows lipo you can use them unless you are running to strict brca rules followed to the letter.

Chrislong 27-01-2007 01:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by big si (Post 22498)
this isnt realy an arguement if you look at new style cells like 4200mah

there voltage on a pack of good cells is what 1.22-1.23v per cell x6=7.32-7.38volts per pack so your already at the 7.4v marker so where is the difference?

cells today have passed there own voltage limit because our cells are worked so much harder to get the most from them lipo is a serious contender. if people want to run them why stop them as there is no advantage in voltage
Regardless of what the matcher manages to print on the label. the cells are 1.2v cells, regardless of capacity too.

6x 1.2v = 7.2v.

I mean, this 1kg bag of sugar i bought from Tesco actually weighs 1.07kg on the scales in my kitchen, but it is still a 1kg bag of sugar.

bigred5765 27-01-2007 01:22 PM
how many volts and milliamp are the bags of sugar Chris and are they race legal lol

O can i buy a x6 shell of you or Dan if u have one for sale please

paint job not for us cheers i presume your coming to bury Sunday?

Chrislong 27-01-2007 01:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 22502)
how many volts and milliamp are the bags of sugar Chris and are they race legal lol

O can i buy a x6 shell of you or Dan if u have one for sale please

paint job not for us cheers i presume your coming to bury Sunday?
Oooh, you should see it when I try to charge it at 7amp *BANG* :D

I don't have any clear shells, you'll have to get that of esro or X-Factory, but if you want to borrow one while you get fixed up, I have the Red shell I used at the Euro's spare. It has a hole in the windscreen.

Can't do Bury tomorrow mate, sorry, got a family meal to go to, so i am off to Teesside tonight to get my 'weekly fix' of racing.

Chris

bigred5765 27-01-2007 01:39 PM
thanks for the offer Chris, its for someone else thats bought a x6 and wants it painting in his own colours, ill contact Daryl direct, thanks for the offer though , and enjoy your meal.

Slowcoach 27-01-2007 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by big si (Post 22498)
this isnt realy an arguement if you look at new style cells like 4200mah

there voltage on a pack of good cells is what 1.22-1.23v per cell x6=7.32-7.38volts per pack so your already at the 7.4v marker so where is the difference?

cells today have passed there own voltage limit because our cells are worked so much harder to get the most from them lipo is a serious contender. if people want to run them why stop them as there is no advantage in voltage
No Advantage in Voltage?!
1.2 is the nominal voltage (=7.2) and 7.4 is the nominal voltage of a Lipo.
They both produce more than their nominal voltage.
If you look at Trakpowers own info you will see that for yourself.

Slowcoach 27-01-2007 06:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by big si (Post 22499)
from the keyboard of jim spencer

The section rules in the BRCA handbook anly apply to nationals, sanctioned events and other events that want to run to them.
So some clubs and regional series run to strict BRCA rules, and some don't, you need to check with your likely racing location / class to see if they allow LiPo's or not.


the way this reads leads you to the answer if a host club allows lipo you can use them unless you are running to strict brca rules followed to the letter.
But if a host club is running a regional event then Lipos cannot be used as it is a sanctioned event. Off-road is the only section that has regional series. 1/12th doesn't, Tc doesn't but has a bunch of other series - some of which are sort of regionalised but aren't sanctioned.

Slowcoach 27-01-2007 06:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 22389)
so how come bikes run nationals under the brca and allow lipo?
You already have had the answer.
That is the same question you put on RaceChat over aweek ago.
You have had the answer.

So all you are doing is stirring.

mark christopher 28-01-2007 08:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slowcoach (Post 22537)
You already have had the answer.
That is the same question you put on RaceChat over aweek ago.
You have had the answer.

So all you are doing is stirring.
wrong im asking a valid question to a post!

DCM 28-01-2007 09:07 PM
not read them, but as someone has already posted, they haven't adopted the EB as yet and will probably not have narrowed down the power source.

Slowcoach 29-01-2007 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 22648)
wrong im asking a valid question to a post!
Really?
You should read your own cut-and-pastes!
(Try post #6 for starters).

mark christopher 29-01-2007 08:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by big si (Post 22360)
that will be the question i asked on racechat then :lol:

i have had a reply from the brca regarding this it reads

Dear Simon,

LiPo cells are not allowed to be used at any BRCA sanctioned events during 2007.

Obviously they do not comply with any of the current battery rules, and none of the Electric Sections (within the Electric Board) have asked for them to be included in the rules.

The latest list of approved NiCd and NiMH cells for 2007 can be viewed on the BRCA website.
Go to the Electric Board Section and 'click' on the battery homologation list.

Best regards,

Paul Worsley. (Secretary, BRCA Electric Board)


from what i can gather they are legalish but not in brca events but you are covered by the brca for insurance purposes
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slowcoach (Post 22743)
Really?
You should read your own cut-and-pastes!
(Try post #6 for starters).
and?

it shows sections dont have to use what the eb say, this forum is more off road and allot on here dont do rcracechat,so i wanted thier views, do you have a problem with that? if so see me on rcracechat ;-)

Chrislong 29-01-2007 09:04 PM
Come on guys, stop swinging handbags and play nicely. :D

The way I see it, this is a new question for this forum so the valid answers here add value to the forum. Doesn't matter who asked what where, the resource for anybody else searching is here too now.

Slowcoach 30-01-2007 10:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 22833)
and?

it shows sections dont have to use what the eb say, this forum is more off road and allot on here dont do rcracechat,so i wanted thier views, do you have a problem with that? if so see me on rcracechat ;-)

and ? it shows that your reading is as suspect as your typing:rolleyes:

Simple Facts: -
  • Lipos are Not allowed In British Radio Car Association sanctioned meetings and this includes Off-Road Regionals.
  • Bikes do allow them, as they do not run to EB rules (don’t have four wheels either).
  • All other Sections run to EB rules and can decline to run items on the approved list but can not allow the use of items not on the list.
You can run them at club level if the club allows them.

mark christopher 30-01-2007 11:10 AM
bikes are under the brca as a class !! irespective of amout of wheels
12th scale allow lipo as reciever packs, should they?
Jason for some reason you seem keen on having a dig at me take the pi55 all you want on my typing im used to my dislexia being ridiculed, im sure there is not need to get personal.
do you actually race off road?

Slowcoach 02-02-2007 08:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 22908)
bikes are under the brca as a class !! irespective of amout of wheels
12th scale allow lipo as reciever packs, should they?
Jason for some reason you seem keen on having a dig at me take the pi55 all you want on my typing im used to my dislexia being ridiculed, im sure there is not need to get personal.
do you actually race off road?
Since when have receiver packs been regulated?:confused:
Roar have banned the use of all Lipo packs, including receiver packs.
1. I'm not Jason.:wtf:
2. Well, as you know that you have a problem with your typing then use a spelling/grammar checker!
3. Selective cut-and-pasting is something that just mis-informs people.

mark christopher 02-02-2007 09:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slowcoach (Post 23382)
Since when have receiver packs been regulated?:confused:
Roar have banned the use of all Lipo packs, including receiver packs.
1. I'm not Jason.:wtf:
2. Well, as you know that you have a problem with your typing then use a spelling/grammar checker!
3. Selective cut-and-pasting is something that just mis-informs people.
oh dear lack of knowledge! you simply buy a reciever pack regulater, lrp and lots of others sell them
who gives a flying frig about Roar, ill never race to those rules and who on here will this is a uk forum and UK runs under BRCA
1/ ur not slowcoach on rcracechat then?
2/ nope ill do as i do not as you say, if you dont like it simple solution is X on top right!
3/so is lack of knowledge ( see top sentance)

Chrislong 02-02-2007 10:05 AM
I'll start the scoring.

1-0 to Mark so far. But can Slowcoach equalise? :confused:

mark christopher 02-02-2007 10:08 AM
im not wanting to score points or argue but for some reason he seems hell bent on having a go at me?

losixxx 02-02-2007 10:13 AM
you seen to have that effect on people mark:D


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