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bobbin 28-10-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig maher (Post 883221)
Ya I would love practice days on a Saturday or something don't mind paying if we have to maybe descuse it at agm

Let me get my house move out the way and I will talk to Steve about it mate

Craig maher 28-10-2014 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbin (Post 883245)
Let me get my house move out the way and I will talk to Steve about it mate

:thumbsup:

hotrodchris 28-10-2014 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jpmatrix (Post 883210)
Hi chris.

Im not moaning as such, of course there is going to be meetings where you going to have a, b and c finals depending on numbers and thats the way its been in the past. I just wanted to clarify if points will be taken from the finals and not the qualifying heats.

James

James points taken from final finishing positions plus 1 for tq.

jpmatrix 28-10-2014 07:08 PM

Points
 
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Originally Posted by hotrodchris (Post 883298)
James points taken from final finishing positions plus 1 for tq.


Thanks Chris.

RobW 29-10-2014 10:44 AM

Ok, we've given it some thought and figure the "fairest" way to do it is:

1. By default all future winter series finals will be 10 cars as far as entries allow. This is on basis this allow drivers the maximum opportunity to earn points in their final - for example you qualify 10th and can still win the A final.

2. Points awarded on finishing positions in finals so winner of A gets 100 points, 2nd in A gets 99, winner of B gets 90 points etc. TQ gets extra 1 point.

However I hope we all acknowledge this is supposed to be a bit of fun over the winter which is the general view I seem to be getting from the posts above as everyone seems fairly relaxed?

If that is the case then I really hope we can see some common sense prevail which is why I say By Default at the start of point 1 above. If we have say 14 drivers in a particular class at a meeting and the 9th and 10th qualifiers would prefer/are happy to race in the B final to have a better race with others of similar speed and make a better race for the others in the B then I really cannot see why a sensible conversation cannot be had at the end of qualifying. This should not affect anyone else as the drivers in the A final cannot lose any points as a result and the other drivers in the B could potentially gain a couple as the winner of the B would then get 92 points.

Remember - its good to talk.

Hope this resolves all the trouble Cammers has caused:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

Rob

Squidzilla 30-10-2014 12:58 AM

I can say with absolute certainty that I will be in the B final every time.. Usually the slowest or there abouts at any meeting..

Racing in a 4 car B final really isn't racing at all and feels really anticlimactic after a session of practice.

If it was 14 cars racing in one class, and Q9/10 do not want to go B final, would a 14 car final be an option? Rostrum would be cuddly, but I would rather that than be part of a 4 car final.

RobW 30-10-2014 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Squidzilla (Post 883513)
I can say with absolute certainty that I will be in the B final every time.. Usually the slowest or there abouts at any meeting..

Racing in a 4 car B final really isn't racing at all and feels really anticlimactic after a session of practice.

If it was 14 cars racing in one class, and Q9/10 do not want to go B final, would a 14 car final be an option? Rostrum would be cuddly, but I would rather that than be part of a 4 car final.

I understand your position but personally I think 14 is probably a bit too much. We have run 11 and 12 car finals in the past and the ones I have been in have been a bit hectic due to the number of cars and the additional spread of ability.

You would have to get all 10 of the finalists to agree as they have nothing to gain and some to lose as with a 10 car final the worst they can come is 10th even with a breakdown.

As I say it is supposed to be a bit of fun - you guys are going to have to talk at the meetings as I do not get to race over the winter.

There is always the AGM if you want to make a specific proposal? At the moment we are kinda making the rules to try and please as many peolpe as possible but if we are not getting it right we are happy to listen:).

Rob

HOTSHOT III 30-10-2014 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RobW (Post 883386)
Ok, we've given it some thought and figure the "fairest" way to do it is:

1. By default all future winter series finals will be 10 cars as far as entries allow. This is on basis this allow drivers the maximum opportunity to earn points in their final - for example you qualify 10th and can still win the A final.

2. Points awarded on finishing positions in finals so winner of A gets 100 points, 2nd in A gets 99, winner of B gets 90 points etc. TQ gets extra 1 point.

However I hope we all acknowledge this is supposed to be a bit of fun over the winter which is the general view I seem to be getting from the posts above as everyone seems fairly relaxed?

If that is the case then I really hope we can see some common sense prevail which is why I say By Default at the start of point 1 above. If we have say 14 drivers in a particular class at a meeting and the 9th and 10th qualifiers would prefer/are happy to race in the B final to have a better race with others of similar speed and make a better race for the others in the B then I really cannot see why a sensible conversation cannot be had at the end of qualifying. This should not affect anyone else as the drivers in the A final cannot lose any points as a result and the other drivers in the B could potentially gain a couple as the winner of the B would then get 92 points.

Remember - its good to talk.

Hope this resolves all the trouble Cammers has caused:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

Rob

This all sounds good to me RobW:thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squidzilla (Post 883513)
I can say with absolute certainty that I will be in the B final every time.. Usually the slowest or there abouts at any meeting..

Racing in a 4 car B final really isn't racing at all and feels really anticlimactic after a session of practice.

If it was 14 cars racing in one class, and Q9/10 do not want to go B final, would a 14 car final be an option? Rostrum would be cuddly, but I would rather that than be part of a 4 car final.

TBH I think any more than 10 cars in a final would be pushing it both on the rostrum and on the track but the plan outlined by Rob (W) above should serve to prevent the 4 car B Final which none of us like ending up in. A bit of discussion after qualifying should sort it in most cases:)

MrMagoo 30-10-2014 08:46 PM

I'm happy just so longer as Cammers doesn't beat me again this week:p

Cammers 31-10-2014 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMagoo (Post 883678)
I'm happy just so longer as Cammers doesn't beat me again this week:p

I plan to John :p

hotrodchris 31-10-2014 04:41 PM

John do 2wd then you might be safe.


Lol

Steve1973 02-11-2014 02:31 PM

UDATED RESULTS
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...p=docslist_api

shaun m 02-11-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve1973 (Post 884026)

Cheers steve ,not sure if its only for me ,but i could'nt see my results on there :confused: .. cheers shaun

Steve1973 02-11-2014 03:38 PM

Are you looking in the 2wd list? Line 39 for your scores

shaun m 02-11-2014 07:56 PM

Yeah sussed it , at first it would'nt open the whole spread sheet up , with my phone ,but sorted it now cheers :thumbsup:

Steve1973 09-11-2014 02:45 PM

UPDATED SCORES
 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...p=docslist_api

hotrodchris 09-11-2014 03:13 PM

Spot on Steve and you didn't even race today.

Bernie_W 09-11-2014 06:24 PM

9-11-14
 
Well done steve.
Would be nice to see the results updated on the website too. Its just nice to check on times to see if there's any improvement.

Enjoyed racing today even though had to retire RB6 with broken hinge pin.Thanks to all

Bernie

DiggerAde 09-11-2014 07:25 PM

I think there's something wrong how can i be in 3rd :thumbsup: :woot:

hotrodchris 09-11-2014 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DiggerAde (Post 885249)
I think there's something wrong how can i be in 3rd :thumbsup: :woot:

Cheating but don't tell anyone Ade!


Lol


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