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Arn0 04-04-2007 02:35 PM

Phil, a quick question slightly out of topic!

Those two setup look the same, what are the difference??? :wtf:

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...9&postcount=27

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...5&postcount=39

Lee 04-04-2007 03:32 PM

I found the answer to my question.

Here it is for info for those who dont know.

Losi pistons are in 'numbers' as well as colours they are as follows
#60 (Natural)
#57 (Black)
#56 (Red)
#55 (Orange)
#54 (Blue)
This number also relates to a drill size.
Whever people talk about a standard piston in number they would just use the 2 digits or the colour.
If they talk about a drilled piston they will use a 3 digit number, something like 556 or 566.
What it is the last number of the 'standard' piston numbers, notice they are all 5something so that does not matter
so a 556 piston would have 2 holes in #55 and one hole in #56
a 566 piston would have 1 hole in #55 and 2 holes in #56

**Tip From Richard Cree**
The number as Chris says relates to an imperial drill size, bear in mind the bigger the drill number, the smaller the hole.
Another thing to consider is a drilled 555 piston will have a slightly different size to a moulded 555 piston, for this reason I always used drilled pistons, even if they are standard versions available.
This really is very fine tuning, but once you get the hang of it you will find the jump between std pistons to be immense.

Measurements
#60 - 1.02mm
#59 - 1.05
#58 - 1.07
#57 - 1.10
#56 - 3/64"
#55 - 1.30mm
#54 - 1.40mm

_sleigh_ 04-04-2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arn0 (Post 31843)
Phil, a quick question slightly out of topic!

Those two setup look the same, what are the difference??? :wtf:

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...9&postcount=27

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...5&postcount=39

You're right they are pretty much the same, the second is just an evolution of the first.
Small changes
Lowered the front camber link ballstud a couple of washers.
Been running a brass front pivot block since I first started using the setup, which is the same as about 30g of weight.
Also on extra change i've been trying which isn't on that setup is running the rear shock position on 3/Middle

Probably worth saying that that set-up is for UK Grass / Astroturk high grip style tracks. Also worked very well at York at the Indoor Finals. For Tiverton's dirt track I'll be starting with the same set-up but with atleast 5wt lighter shock oil all round.

bigred5765 09-04-2007 11:15 AM

phil whats your starting set up for tivy xx4 xxxcr please

Spencer Mulcahy 10-04-2007 12:08 PM

Can somebody post pics of how to drill the pistons and what size drill I need. And do you use standard pistons any colour, thankyou very much from an ignorant Losi driver. Or a link to anywhere that has an idiots guide.

Lee 10-04-2007 12:57 PM

Spencer, my post above lists the pistons and then below the drill sizes, ie 57 = 1.10 mm.

you just drill out the holes to the size required, it makes sense to use a piston with small holes and enlarge them.

_sleigh_ 10-04-2007 01:05 PM

Best piston to start with is a "Natural", then enlarge the required holes.

ashleyb4 10-04-2007 01:28 PM

And northy sells the drill required.

A

Spencer Mulcahy 10-04-2007 09:11 PM

It is amazing when you walk away from somthing and coming back to it it all comes clear thanks alot for the replys it is all clear now.:)

bigred5765 11-04-2007 07:52 AM

Spence i have the drill bits and natural piston come see me

Spencer Mulcahy 11-04-2007 07:18 PM

Cheers Carl see you friday.

Lee 19-04-2007 08:50 AM

carl i might have some natural pistons off you on sunday, i want to try phils 554 combo;)

ryan 06-05-2007 08:18 PM

Anyone got a xx4 setup for Kidderminster which will work with the nominated tyre?


Ryan

PaulRotheram 06-05-2007 08:38 PM

use the magic/standard set up thats been posted around this section numerous times.. i think people still dont realise the set up thats around.. it the only set up needed for near every track.

gg77 24-05-2007 01:10 PM

Hi

Do you have more feedbacks about the 554 pistons setup on CR ?

Thanks

Lee 13-06-2007 09:27 PM

Does anyone have a link for the Bloomers kiddy setup or the setup that tricky and danny Mcgee ran at bury, the one with orange and silver springs?

jimmy 12-07-2007 02:10 PM

So, I've driven a 2WD buggy once this year and next week I'll be racing a XXXCR for the first time since 2003 - does anyone know a good base setup that would work on the euros (dirt / carpet jumps) track for this car?

I'd rather not be getting into all that drilling pistons lark - it's a bit too hardcore for me is that. But an idea of the general setup and also what springs I might need to get hold of?
Been a long time since I had a losi 2WD so I'm a bit lost with it.

tyreman 12-07-2007 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 49599)
So, I've driven a 2WD buggy once this year and next week I'll be racing a XXXCR for the first time since 2003 - does anyone know a good base setup that would work on the euros (dirt / carpet jumps) track for this car?

I'd rather not be getting into all that drilling pistons lark - it's a bit too hardcore for me is that. But an idea of the general setup and also what springs I might need to get hold of?
Been a long time since I had a losi 2WD so I'm a bit lost with it.


Start with blue pistons and 40wt oil red springs on the rear.
Orange pistons, 40wt oil and blue/black springs.
Set everything else up as kit to start with.

Did you get my pm about vinal stickers??

Dan-0ward 05-08-2007 11:45 PM

xx4/WE setup for oswestry
 
hi has anyone got a good setup the oswestry track for the xx4?

thanks, Dan

Arn0 06-08-2007 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan-0ward (Post 54178)
hi has anyone got a good setup the oswestry track for the xx4?

If thing still the same, here what you can get:

16/07/2006
Matthew Latham
Double-X4WE - BRCA Nats Oswestry (Outdoor Open)
Loose Dirt (1/2 hard packed Grass, 1/2 hard packed Dirt)
Smooth


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