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woOdy 02-12-2008 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondy (Post 183751)
Feels pretty good ! You get a lot of things in the kit ! but luckily all my 3 racing alloy fits ! Cant call it a full FS as its still got zx5 suspension arms and hubs ! Transmission is very free ! you get new diff gears and pinions but as the rtr has only been run once them diffs went in ! Looks like there is a load of space for everything until you put in a speed passion brushless ! speedo so recever had to go on top !

Hiopefully giving a run tommorow night !

Only snag I Had was when you use the 2mm insert on the rear suspension mounts to give it some kick up as per instructions then the new bottom gear box touches the rear/"front" mount and will not let the diff casing sit flush in the chassis mouldings. as I was using alloy mounts I ground the recess little more until it was snug !


http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...adbond/fs2.jpg


http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...adbond/fs3.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...adbond/fs1.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...dbond/fs11.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...adbond/fs5.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...adbond/fs9.jpg

Please for the love of GOD trim that wing down or u will just understeer off the end of the straight!!!

Jez 02-12-2008 11:22 PM

wing
 
a bit like yors last month????????????????

streetfreak 02-12-2008 11:34 PM

Pred X11
 
I just Read That Tekin is going to be distrbuting the Predator X11 or a Similiar version of it in the States has anyone else heard this or have info info??I'e been looking to buy a 4wd prob a B44 but now it may be on hold if this news is true.

Karl Marsden 03-12-2008 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woOdy (Post 183774)
Please for the love of GOD trim that wing down or u will just understeer off the end of the straight!!!


LOL-Guys, just to say the full kits are not so far away, before Xmas fingers crossed so in time for the next Worksop round.

With Tebo now on Board, I think the progress for 2WD & 4WD will get stronger and stronger in 2009! Watch this space.....

Cheers

Karl

Neil Skull 03-12-2008 09:25 PM

Love the car Steve,
you are less mad than i suspected.
Let us know how she handles :)

How does the wing size affect understeer?

bondy 03-12-2008 09:42 PM

home
 
from the two runs I had you can feel the extra length ! But we use the touring car track and just divert off to the side for a few jumps ! Track had many hairpins. Then I landed with the power on off the jump and took a few teeth off the rear diff ! It was very cold so I came home ! ;)

1 .. How tight does everyone shim the diffs ?
2.. how tight do you run the diffs ?
3.. how tight do you run the slipper clutch ?

Handling felt good although I still have some shockers to sort out ! :thumbsup:

Col 03-12-2008 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil Skull (Post 184007)
How does the wing size affect understeer?

Exactly the same as with traditional cars - If the wing has high downforce at the rear, it causes the front to lift slightly (or at least give that impression) giving less steering.

bondy 04-12-2008 01:19 PM

Check
 
Just nipped into van at dinner and checked the FS out ! Some muppet forgot a spacer in the diff cup which let the little drive shaft move so far in it came out the front cup efectivley turning the car into 2 wheel drive ! Therfore the rear diff went !

Just goes to show you should always carfully "R.T.F.M"

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...dbond/rtfm.jpg

Fabs 04-12-2008 01:26 PM

the muppet being you i presume then... serves you well for getting a RTR he he... That part you pointed out is a white plastic cover that is included in the diff assembly bag, comes with the diff nut retainer. That's right i'm building my own FS :thumbsup:

bretts 04-12-2008 01:53 PM

From looking at photos it will be fun with lipo saddles in there too!

If you did tho' I wonder what it would be like with all the weight at the front? bring out the lead!

bondy 04-12-2008 02:26 PM

Yes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabs (Post 184160)
the muppet being you i presume then... serves you well for getting a RTR he he... That part you pointed out is a white plastic cover that is included in the diff assembly bag, comes with the diff nut retainer. That's right i'm building my own FS :thumbsup:


Yes the muppet was me ! I thought that would have been evident in the tone of the message ! DOH !!!!! It worn some of the tiny little drive shaft but it should be ok ! I have also put some spare diff ring savers on the center shaft outputs for added strength !

Neil Skull 04-12-2008 06:13 PM

Well Steve you know im a fan of yours but.

If you did not use that little piece the nut spins and you could never have locked the diff up.
I take it you never tested it after you built it!!!!

as some one said you is a muppet.

still as you only a begginer to 4wd as you got a RTR i suppose we can cut you a little slack :)

bondy 04-12-2008 10:02 PM

?
 
Err this is the spur layshaft ! not a diff ! :o

there is a big nut to adjust the diff but its on the other end ! and its a 7mm one

The white spacer is put in to stop the litle drive shaft touching the screw end of the layshaft !

after 22 years I hope I aint classed as a beginer

Tamiya Falcon
Optima Mid
Optima Mid custom
Lazer ZX
Lazer ZXR
Lazer ZXRR
Kyosho Pro-X
Kyosho Triumph
Schumacher Cat XLS
Schumacher PRO Cat
Schumacher Couger
Schumacher Couger 2
Schumacher Couger 2000
Schumacher Mission/axis/axis 2/ mission 2 /R12
Numerous Tamiya's
PB Maxima
Nanda Swift
Nanda Raptor
Losi Jrx Pro
Losi XX
Losi XXCR
Losi XXX
Losi XXXCR
Losi XX4
Losi 8T
Mardave Metor
Mardave Mini
Kyosho STRR
Kyosho MP9
Kyosho RB5
Kyosho Lazer ZX5/RTR/FS --------


To name a few !!!

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...d/layshaft.jpg

RSharpy 04-12-2008 11:15 PM

Bondy to be fair that little white bit doesn't do an awful lot, as long as the nuts tight!!

As they would say on the football terrace.... after 22 years!!.... YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING!!!! :p:p:p

bondy 04-12-2008 11:44 PM

OOOOOOOH
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RSharpy (Post 184419)
Bondy to be fair that little white bit doesn't do an awful lot, as long as the nuts tight!!

As they would say on the football terrace.... after 22 years!!.... YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING!!!! :p:p:p



FOR THE SECOND TIME ! LOOK AT THE DRAWING !!! THERES NO ******* NUT THERE ITS A HEAD WITH A SLOT IN IT SO YOU CAN HOLD IT TIGHT WITH A ALLEN WRENCH WHILE YOU ATTATCH EVERYTHING AND TIGHTEN UP THE NUT ON THE OPOSITE SIDE. THE HEAD WHEN THE SLIPPER IS SLIPPING ACTUALL TURNS INSIDE THE CUP THATS WHY YOU PUT GREASE ON THE SHAFT ! THE LITTLE WHITE SPCER JUST KEEPS THE SMALL CENTER SHAFT FROM TOUCHING THIS WHEN IT ROTATES HENCE "ITS WORN A LITTLE " :mad:

OR you could just be taking this piss , so I will sort you out on sunday matey !!!! :thumbsup:

Neil Skull 05-12-2008 08:44 AM

Hi Steve,

thats an impressive list of cars.

I have to apologise as i use the same white piece on my cars diff.

But at least it shows that even the most expeienced builder can make a mistake.
I have made some howlers
I want to see you take the rtr and win some A finals.

Robfo 05-12-2008 08:52 AM

A finals! Lol He can sit with it and watch some if he want's.
Bond was that a list of all the cars you've built wrong?:woot:

bondy 05-12-2008 09:18 AM

DUMMY
 
Im not posting any more ! Wheres that DUMMY ! :drool:

RSharpy 05-12-2008 12:24 PM

lol, was the latter Bondy, going to leave the RB5 at home and the challange is now set-

ZX5 RTR/SP?/FS Bling thing Vs The CAT SX :thumbsup:

Will bring you a box of tissues and will order you a blue alloy dummy from Hong Kong :lol: :p:p:p

Spoolio 05-12-2008 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSharpy (Post 184521)
...will order you a blue alloy dummy from Hong Kong :lol: :p:p:p

Don't get a Yeah Racing one, they bend real easy when you chuck 'em out of the pram :lol:.


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