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footey 30-05-2012 02:36 PM

dont think the winners would change as the guys who win nationals are also top drivers at nitro so race longer finals than 15 mins anway but would be more fun for the spectacors

TARTMAN 30-05-2012 02:39 PM

15 mins???
 
I know modern lipos/motors/esc's are good, but dont think you could run a 4wd for 15 mins without dumping or at the very least thermalling/melting everything inside the car lol............:woot:

Big G 30-05-2012 02:40 PM

I think there is a lot of excitement knowing the race is only 5 minutes long. if you had a 15 minute race and you stuffed it at the start you'd have loads of time to push hard and catch up. In 5 minutes you don't have that option so the pressure is there to do well for the whole race.

I've run my 4wd for 20 minutes at racing speed with no issues on thermalling outdoors. it wasn't winter either is was average UK weather.

TARTMAN 30-05-2012 02:45 PM

wow
 
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Originally Posted by Big G (Post 659980)
I think there is a lot of excitement knowing the race is only 5 minutes long. if you had a 15 minute race and you stuffed it at the start you'd have loads of time to push hard and catch up. In 5 minutes you don't have that option so the pressure is there to do well for the whole race.

I've run my 4wd for 20 minutes at racing speed with no issues on thermalling outdoors. it wasn't winter either is was average UK weather.

I have seen many in practice times thermal, and in my SC, with fan on both the motor and the esc, they were fine, but the lipo got that hot it melted the connector, still working but at an angle now lol.... OK, i have a 5.5t in it and its 4wd and yes its damn quick..... but no way would i ever get 20 mins out of it even with my 5100mah cells........:confused:

mark christopher 30-05-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Si Coe (Post 659977)
What might be worth considering though is instead of 3 leg A-finals at nationals and regionals how about a single 15 minute final. That give more time to recover from a mistake, and those guys can keep the pace for that length of time.
As a bonus, thats 2 less 2-3min transitions between heats so you could then make the B final 10 minutes long as well.
No overall change to the length of the day, same track time for the A guys (but a different challenge) and a boost for the B final guys. Also might change the winners circle a bit as longer finals might suit some more than others.

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Originally Posted by footey (Post 659978)
dont think the winners would change as the guys who win nationals are also top drivers at nitro so race longer finals than 15 mins anway but would be more fun for the spectacors

the guys who are at the top of nationals also do 8th rally cross and are used to longer finals, you can allways tell an electric racer at thier first few ic meetings, they start loosing concentration after 5 mins...

jmke 30-05-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 659952)
go race nitro?

power delivery doesn't change amount of drivers, heats and time limit :thumbdown:

mark christopher 30-05-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jmke (Post 660049)
power delivery doesn't change amount of drivers, heats and time limit :thumbdown:

no but you automatically get longer finals, well in the uk anyhow :thumbdown::thumbdown::thumbdown:

09 lex 250 02-06-2012 03:43 AM

the electronics are designe to run 6 min for 1/10 and 1/8 e buggy 10 min but i think all quals should be at least 7 min and 10 min mains fror 1/10 and 20 for 1/8 e buggy nitros can handle hour long mains but the motor will start to lose compression if you run hour long mains twice a week

mark christopher 02-06-2012 08:20 AM

sorry but there not diesigned to run for a set time!
the only reason an engine looses compression if you run 2 1 hour finals a week is because its being used, its exactly the same as doing 4 x half hour finals.....


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