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Northy 27-03-2008 03:42 PM

I think it's ace when the left real gets covered in oil, I love it! :thumbsup:

Also, getting fuel on ALL your tyres in the pitstops is also ACE! :thumbsup:

G

Lee 27-03-2008 03:53 PM

I detect a hint of sarcasm:lol:

antnee 27-03-2008 04:20 PM

been there, done that. I converted a thunder tiger eb4 to electric using the leccys from a e-savage/zilla. The buggy was a bit too heavy for it really, had problems with keeping batteries in it too

This is how it looked when I finished the conversion
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...3/DSC01289.jpg

After testing it ended up like this
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...3/DSC01299.jpg
its missing the massive fan I had on it too!

It has to be brushless and lipo to work!

http://seanbedford.co.uk/ go on the hyper 7 page, nice one there

glypo 27-03-2008 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net (Post 107486)
I can agree with the weakness, but certainly not the speed.

Really?? What turn motor would you say then, to match a good race 8 port engine then?

glypo 30-03-2008 02:48 PM

People.

Go to www.neo-buggy.net

and vote "yes" on the poll!

Chris Doughty 31-03-2008 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glypo (Post 107644)
Really?? What turn motor would you say then, to match a good race 8 port engine then?

usual motors we race with, 5.5, 6.5 brushless.

I think any top level race ready 10th scale will smoke a top level race ready 8th scale off the line and even top end.

would not stand any kind of a chance in an elbows race though :drool:

Lee 31-03-2008 09:11 AM

Totally agree chris, it would be good to compare a 10th scale laptimes to the 8th cars at the neo. I just imagine you really cant get it wrong with a 10th scale off the big jumps otherwise it would be game over. 8th scale ar amazingly strong:thumbsup:

Chris Doughty 31-03-2008 09:43 AM

I think a 10th scale would be faster (when the track was fresh - no ruts)

but I am not sure that it would have been possible to make it last enough laps to get used to the track and put in a fast lap :blush:

Lee 31-03-2008 09:54 AM

Especially with an aero:cry:

bigred5765 31-03-2008 10:07 AM

and get voting on the pole you lot, the no's are winning at the mo
to quiet whats wrong with them

Chris Doughty 31-03-2008 10:09 AM

the problem is that the Poll is on a hardcore 8th scale nitro website.

its like posting in a Losi forum to ask if the B4 is good or not.

jimmy 31-03-2008 10:10 AM

Was it too quiet during the finals yesterday? :lol:

bigred5765 31-03-2008 10:11 AM

true but with some many members on here lets kick some booty

Lee 31-03-2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 108556)
Was it too quiet during the finals yesterday? :lol:


Not at all, i think damo is deaf now, i also saw dan get down of the seating and say the words "this is too f**kin embarrassing:lol: so so funny.


You dont get stuff like that onroad either, it was like a funeral when the finals were on:lol:

bigred5765 31-03-2008 11:04 AM

lol jimmy shouts through a internal amp i think

Northy 31-03-2008 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 108565)
lol jimmy shouts through a internal amp i think

Yeh, and he's usually so quiet too, just sat muttering things about crack and jaffa cakes..... of, and Jammin...... and something to do with sea-men. ;)

G

gramey 31-03-2008 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 108567)
Yeh, and he's usually so quiet too, just sat muttering things about crack and jaffa cakes..... of, and Jammin...... and something to do with sea-men. ;)

G

:eh?:Northy, what with your posting of Lebian singles and your list of sponsors there appear to be some serious issues underneath the surface - Hot Bodies, RC Pineapple, TOE, Fister, are you a friend of Max Mosley's?:D

Cain 27-04-2008 07:54 PM

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great to see you guys on the other side of the pond looking into this as well.

I managed to pic up an already converted Mugen MBX5 to run. Its setup as it came to me was:

- Mamba Max ESC modified to use external BEC, Holes in casing, and Fan
- Neu 1512 2.5D motor 2050Kv motor
- Maxamps 6000mah 4S 14.8V pack
- RC Product Designs Conversion
- Hot Bodies Center Diff (to mount with conversion spur gear)

With this setup, I was able to get alittle better than 20 minutes of Hard running on the car. Setups that would be used for nitro worked well on the vehicle.

Prior to selling the vehicle (going with an RC8 to convert now) I changed out the battery with a PolyRC Enerland cell based 4900mah 4S battery pack. This is a 25C battery that I believe uses the same cells as the trakpower 4900mah pack . Also nice that RC Lipos the distributor for it has free worldwide shipping.

Anyway, with this lipo, which is much lighter than the maxamps, I was able to do between 15 - 22 minutes of runtime, depending on gearing and wheel slippage.

Since that time, New developments have occured. The Castle Creations Mamba Monster ESC is on the way that allows up to 6S use, and uses the same software that took away the cogging on the Mamba Max ESC we experienced with the Neu motors. With a 6S setup using lighter and lower mah cells, electronics will run cooler and you can use lower KV motors to get the same performance. Also, you get longer runtimes relative to this.

Novak is also releasing there own line of conversions for the various vehicles. Albeit, the 1/10 scale trays are used.

RC Product Designs makes conversions that are bolt in, and allow usage of the longer 160mm packs based on Enerland cells.

The performance of 1/8 scale brushless is simply amazing. With the way our tracks are out here in the USA, I think this will probably be where people gravitate towards.

As for costs, TonyScrews made a nice little chart, and the costs after common items you need fuel, etc for a nitro the prices were pretty close.

With the new Castle Creations Mamba Monster ESC and future motor combo being priced at $300, this will drop costs significantly where 1/8 scale electric buggies will be cheaper than nitro counterparts, especially as you don't need to rebuy fuel and only in reality need 1 battery with a X number of Heats, 1 main format (say 5 - 10 minute heats, 15 - 20 minute main).

Attached is a pic of my conversion when it came in for the MBX5.

gramey 16-05-2008 10:21 PM

:)The movement is gaining momentum - http://www.teknorc.com/ - handy as I happen to have both an 8T & 8B, next one to blow an engine may well get the treatment!!!:)

Dunc 17-05-2008 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramey (Post 124736)
:)The movement is gaining momentum - http://www.teknorc.com/ - handy as I happen to have both an 8T & 8B, next one to blow an engine may well get the treatment!!!:)

That does look good. I'm just running a B4 (soon to be X-6) at the moment and have to admit I'm more tempted to get a 1/8 electric conversion next than a 4wd 1/10 buggy.

If you go for the conversion Gramey please let us know what you think of it.

Body Paint 18-05-2008 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramey (Post 124736)
:)The movement is gaining momentum - http://www.teknorc.com/ - handy as I happen to have both an 8T & 8B, next one to blow an engine may well get the treatment!!!:)

That thing appears to have a centrifugal clutch WTF???

Surely that'll make it drive all crappy, just like a nitro 1/8th :thumbdown:

Dunc 18-05-2008 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Body Paint (Post 124962)
That thing appears to have a centrifugal clutch WTF???

Surely that'll make it drive all crappy, just like a nitro 1/8th :thumbdown:

Direct drive is possible: their website says you can ditch their "Elektri-Clutch" system for a long boss pinion.

OldTimer 18-05-2008 10:00 AM

I think the centrifugal clutch is for Nitro guys coming to electric, rather than 1/10 electric guys going to 1/8 electric.

I think a slipper clutch would be of more use to get rid of some of the grunt the Neu motors produce ;)

Body Paint 18-05-2008 10:26 AM

Thanks Dunc (I don't do reading, I like to look at pictures LOL)

Slipper would be very cool, I like that idea.

A QC battery might also be usefull for those 20 minute mains, although you may need some kid of industrial cooling, a heatsink in the shape of a Nitro head would be tres cool!

Plus they also run bump ups so you wouldn't have time to charge in between runs so your almost definately going to need 2 batterys.

OldTimer 18-05-2008 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Body Paint (Post 125002)
T although you may need some kid of industrial cooling, a heatsink in the shape of a Nitro head would be tres cool!

A heat sink for what ? no need for the speedo or motor ;)

Body Paint 18-05-2008 10:38 AM

Even if your potentially running for 35 minutes or more with just a few minutes break? They run that cool? The Mamba setup I used in 06 was thermalling after about 4 minutes, I guess technology has moved on quite a bit since then though hey.

OldTimer 18-05-2008 10:44 AM

The new Mamba Monster is a 1/8th electric specific speedo with a decent fan and heatsink built in, some guys have broken the fan and carried on using the speedo with out thermaling it.

I don't plan on using it on the limits it can do ie 6s, but then again :woot:

Body Paint 18-05-2008 10:56 AM

So what you planning then 4s?

I did here Novak are bring out some conversion kits, could be worth a look as I do like Team Orange :thumbsup:

I like the look of that Electric specific chassis from Tekno for the Eight.

OldTimer 18-05-2008 11:05 AM

Got a flightpower 4s 5000mah 25c lipo on order, plus a Neu 1509 1.5y and a Mamba Monster to finish it off :thumbsup:

Dunc 18-05-2008 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Body Paint (Post 125002)
Thanks Dunc (I don't do reading, I like to look at pictures LOL)

No problem. Been there and done that myself many a time :thumbsup:

gramey 22-06-2008 09:48 PM

:eh?:Has anyone had any dealings with RC Direct as I see on the Tekno RC website they are the distributors over here for the Tekno 1/8th conversions. I went on the RC Direct website but couldn't find the conversion listed.

I'll give them a ring but I was just wondering if anyone haad dealt with them before?:eh?:

frogger 22-06-2008 10:38 PM

Yes, RC Direct is my local. The guy is called Andy and he's good as ever getting you things you want. Just give him a ring :)

gramey 23-06-2008 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTimer (Post 125016)
Got a flightpower 4s 5000mah 25c lipo on order, plus a Neu 1509 1.5y and a Mamba Monster to finish it off :thumbsup:

http://www.oople.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gifOldTimer, May I ask where you sourced your Mamba Monster & Neu motor from as I asked at my LHS and they couldn't find the Monster listed with their two Castle Creations suppliers. If it's politically unacceptable to post on here where that was could you please send me a pm, I tried searching on the net but couldn't find anyone listing it.

Frogger thanks for the info I'll give them a ring as the Tekno set up appeals as it retains the brakes.http://www.oople.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif

OldTimer 23-06-2008 10:11 PM

The Neu 1509 was from Impakt RC which i believe is part of Tekno and i don't think there is a UK supplier for Neu, and the Monster is from RC Monster once the rev2 versions are released.

James 23-06-2008 10:16 PM

Trakpower now import the Mamba stuff so contact them, they will also be able to fix you up with suitable lipos.

They are curretly looking at providing a motor suitable for 8th electric.

I got my neu from eflight.ch - its in switzerland and the neu motors are made to order so there will be a lead time.. considered to be the best though..

Any questions PM me...

All this info and more will soon be in a review of a Hong Nor brushless conversion for oOple ..

GRIFF55 23-06-2008 10:20 PM

Have you had it going yet James?

OldTimer 23-06-2008 10:21 PM

A alternative to the Neu is a Medusa Products Afterburner V2, but Medusa and there UK agent Aurorra will not have any till at least August due to the sudden demand from 1/8 electric :lol: also the medusa is half the price of a Neu.

James 23-06-2008 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRIFF55 (Post 136368)
Have you had it going yet James?

Still waiting for the motor mount!! Just emailed Dan at rcproductdesigns a sec ago...

Everything else has been ready for months :bored:

Not turned a wheel yet but it does look freakin cool :)

spenner 24-06-2008 07:44 PM

So who is going to be first to put on the 8th Leccy meeting ????

Mine is ready to go, just want a good meeting to race at!!

nitrokillah 28-06-2008 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTimer (Post 107331)
Got to be honest i started work on a 1/8 electric buggy last summer, got a base car and most of the electrics, but other projects became more pressing on my time (S2 & Atomized B44), and i sold the buggy and most of the parts.

But it has been something i have been thinking about again during the last week, and now with Novak getting on board, its seems things are moving along nicely and becoming a little more mainstream.

So S8 anyone :thumbsup:


S8:woot::woot::woot:
YES PLEASE


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