Your name is red, so as i understand it you will need to pay at torch, and you would pay £20, £10 for the round you missed and £10 for the round you are entering.

I'm sure darren will correct me if im wrong though :)

Thanks Darren, that makes good sense.

Forgive me, marked as a reserve, black, red or blue, means you are in and will be able to race if you turn up and pay ? - that's what I think it means.

Unlike say, a National where being on the reserve list is no guarantee of a place, small distinction but may be confusing.

I 'think' R means the person needs to be validated (to be human etc) Blue means they have not turned up once when pre booked (warning?) and red means money is owed before they can race and enter another race...

Just to clarify (again) the people in black are "only" reserve" simply because they have just used the booking facility for the very first time, a "human" (usaully me or Keith W) has to go on and verify they are an "actual" person and not a spammer or a ficticous name entered for a joke etc (Mr Donald Duck springs to mind - LOL - dont get any ideas anyone, since if it comes from your IP address you may loose you real entry too when the IP gets banned.) Geberlaly these "newcomers" are validated twice a day or more and never stay black for long.

HOWEVER, those in RED or BLUE are those who have entered previuos meetings and not shown up or ntofied the clubs (through the correect channles at least) that they are not coming. Those in BLUE have doen it juts the once, those in RED are repeat offenders (if that is the right term). AS LONG AS the meeting does not reach any limits of being full (which is a REAL possability this year looking at how wuick they are filling up) then YES they can juts arrive, pay on the day and their statuse on the site will be restored back to normal. Although, IF on the day of the meeting they have not contacted the club and pre-paid in advance and the meeting fills up they will be a "reserve" and not get in. It has NEVER happened yet, a regionals has not been full in our area for many years, BUT it is closer tthan ever to filling up this year looking at the early numbers.

SO........ If your name is in RED or BLUE, get in contact with the club hlding the FIRST meeting you are booked in for and pay your entry (and missed £10 entry fee if in RED) ASAP, then you can get reset back to normal and be asured of your entry for ALL meetings you have booked in for (you only have to pay the missed entry fee of £10 the once, not for EVERY meeting you have entered)

If in doubt, please contact the CLUB (not me) with whom your first entry is with (TORCH is the first meeting for 2wd on April 22nd)

Thanks, Darren

Spot on as clarified in my post above.....

Thanks Darren & Dudders, not quite as I understood it but clear now :thumbsup::thumbsup: full regionals......... uuummmmmmm

Darren,
Please excuse another 'noob' question... but I've applied formy BRCA no' but not had it back yet. Can I still book in? -or do I need the real deal first? If so how do I get the BRCA to effectively pull their finger out?

Not had mine back yet, or the clubs Dr. Was going to give it another week before chasing...

I don't see a reason why you can't book in now, as long as your BRCA number is through by the race date, can't see an issue. Not sure if the booking in system allocates and checks numbers, if not, just enter xxxxx and see? Darren Boyle is your man.

EDIT: They only went off last Friday so I wouldnt chase yet.

To follow on from Darren's comment, DO NOT PM me please, please email [email protected]
I know a few people have already been in contact, so thank you.

If you are "renewing", then your BRCA number will be the same as last year, if you are joining for the first time, then please wait to book in until you have your official number since the system does require your BRCA number when entering.

Please do NOT enter in a false number, since if this clashes with a genuine one belonging to someone else, it can cause all sorts of grief if the "real" person tries to enter also.

Darren, unfortunately there are stories of people with exisiting numbers getting new cards with new numbers when renewing. In addition, new members may be given a number which has a different format eg 1102xxxx (last 5 digits are the important one) or 1102xxxxx (last 6 digits are the important ones). Just a heads up as some systems cannot accept these new format numbers - apologies if I am teaching you to suck eggs :lol:

No worries Chris, we have preparred for that. As far as I am aware the new numbers are just the year of membership when you first joined (2011 or 2012 etc) then the 5 digit member number (well 6 now since they have prefixed them all with a 0), when you look down the list of entrnats you can see a few like that on there already. Thanks anyhow :thumbsup:

Will Saturday practise be available?

No. No Saturday practice at any of the venues is the way it works, may be some first thing on race day, but will be a full day, heats and finals.

Why is this? is that how its always been or what? I'm new to regionals but have been racing onroad for years and at all there big events tracks are open for timed practice the day before.

certainly for mid south its been that way for time. Its fairer to all, turning up on the sunday and everyone staring with a fresh track to learn and keep the costs down to be honest.

Pretty much every large event I have been to either doesn't allow practice or changes the track layout before the main event starts.

Certainly in Off Road I think its the norm, to keep it fair for all.

Thanks guys to be honest I was only looking for a good excuse to get away from the wife for the entire weekend and not just the Sunday LOL

Can we confirm the surface of the tracks?

TORCH - astro
Herts - astro
DMS - Carpet / ?
Stotfold - astro
SHRCC - grass?

For each regional, is there provisions available to arrive on the Saturday afternoon and camp overnight, track side. Or do we have to approach the host club.

I think you're best to contact the clubs, buddy. I think I can safely say camping won't be available at Stotfold or DMS, however I may be wrong.
Matt

Camping will be available at Ware for both rounds. We have a shower and toilet block on site so perfect for an overnighter :)

Thanks Matt

I booked in last night and I could see my name on the list, I have just had a look and I can't seem to find my name on the list?

Give Darren a shout, I know there was issue with bugs last night.

Hi Sam, I am assuming that you are "Sam Harris" if so yourself and one other person (Kevin Brown) will both need to re-book.

The reason being, there was an issue with the site last night at around 10:15pm (just after you booked in) and it had an errro message on the database. At this point we are not sure if it was juts a glitch at the hosting server end or an issue with the site. On epossability we are looking at is the new type BRCA numbers that Chris Hampson mentioned a few pages back on this thread. It could be this, but we are not sure. It is being looked at tonight and any isseus put right, but "all on its own" the site restored to normal this morning, so we think it was at the host end at present

So please leave it until later and juts simply re-book for the same meetings, you "may" juts have to use the alst 5 digits of your BRCA number when you do "if" this is the issue.

just to add to the confusion
 

just to add to the confusion, there seems to be a second version of the brca number being issued which has 6 relevant digits ie 1102xxxxx. we have had some of these at milton keynes for new 2012 members, hope this is not too much extra work for you darren and antony of course ;-) regards chris h

Hi Chris,

It was two members with the new 1102XXXXX numbers who entered yesterday and after our conversation on here last week it is what made me think it could be that. We have loads of people already with 2011XXXXX and 2012XXXXX numbers with no issue but no-one with the 1102XXXXX type until last night.

Strange thing is it sorted itself before we could look at it this morning, which makes us think the error was at the hosting end, but Anthony is checking it all out this evening to be sure.

Hi Darren,

Is it alright to book now and do you want me to just put the last 5 numbers of my BRCA?

Shops attending TORCH so far are:



RC Lazy, DMS-Racing

Hi Darren,

Looking on the DMS booking in site for the regionals and going through the entrants list for each of the 4wd rounds, my BRCA number I gave you when booking these (obtained from the BRCA website when making my account), is different to the one I have on my membership card.

The number they said was available (but I did not have my card through) was 2012028162. This is the one I gave you. The one on my new membership card is 110271471. If need be, could you update this on the entrants lists please.

Thanks

Paul Harrod

Hi Darren I have the same problem my brca number last year was 10518 but I have just recieved my new card for this year and my number has been changed to 9937. Could you please update this your end.

thanks
james lucas

Hi James and Paul, will see what I can do, you may just need to call the clubs direct to inform nearer the time of the meeting and most likely will only need to call the first club you have entered with, but in the meantime will try my best.

Update....... just had a quick look at it, I cannot update your BRCA number on any entry you have "already" done, the system wont allow it, but is has let me update your numbers in the database, so if you want it to be right, simply re-enter the mneeting(s) with your "new" BRCA number (then double check your name is on the list for the relevent meeting to be sure) then click on the deletion request your recieved with your email confirmation for the old entry you did using your previuos BRCA number and we can take out the original for you. Hope that helps and makes sense.......

And as I understand the tracks have to be closed 7 days before the event too etc. TORCH will be busy getting the track ready for people :)

Really looking forward to this season and hope the dry weather continues!

National rules state that the tracks holding events will be closed for at least 7 days prior to the event. Not even a single lap is allowed by anyone. At Nationals, that would be the Friday one week prior.
BRCA Regional events normally follow Nationals rules as they are BRCA sanctioned event.

I also believe if my memory is right from years gone by, that clubs in the Mid-South would not run club meets on dates that other clubs were holding a regional as encourangement for people to go to the regionals.

There is no rule AFAIK about a meeting in the week before, at "regionals", nationals yes but not regionals, but it is somthing the clubs have been discussing to ensure that venues are not full solid for the entire week prior to each regional with people practising from dawn to dusk :thumbdown:

The gentlemans agreement that has been in place for "years" to not run on another clubs regional dates has also been raised recently and is being closely watched by Keith Wardle to ensure this remains in place for the best interest of ALL clubs in the region.

You sure that is the case Darren as some clubs dates certainly do NOT reflect that at all.
Regionals in my opinion should follow National rules and methods to get drivers in general to understand the way Nationals work.
If then drivers, youngsters and anyone new to Nationals choose to do them, they don't get the shock of their lives.
ie
can't talk on the rostrum
be on your marshalling point on time or loose your fastest time and the list goes on and on!!
LOL - There certainly would be some Rude Awakenings if some turned up at a National - no hanging around to finish your burgers etc etc LMAO

Yep pretty sure, as are all the clubs in the area too

All the other rules that you mention all still apply as you would expect....