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Perhaps we need a solution as previously mentioned that everybody Will be happy with.
I've listed 3 possible options above. |
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You booked in then Mat? |
so is micro going ahead if not put my entry in has 2wd
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you could enter Both m8:thumbsup: |
From my point of view, you're in a very difficult situation regarding this COBRA round of the series. In the initial series information on both the WRCA site and here on oOple, there was now mention of a capped entry at such a low number for round 3 compared to the other rounds.
The reasons might be fully understandable due to the venue size and H&S concerns, but none COBRA club members would not be aware of this until trying to book in (and then it's too late). Certainly when I registered and tried to book into the previous round at Caldicot, I also looked at the rest of the series dates and venues (as I fancied doing the rest) and didn't see the drastically lower cap for this round. As for dropping classes at this round, that seems a little harse seeing as from your own results table you can clearly see that Micros are the most supported across the first two rounds. They are also run a pretty close second on the overall numbers per class. The series details do rightly say that certain classes may be combined with other similar classes if numbers are low. It doesn't however mention anywhere that 2wd/4wd are the main class and will therefore take preference over all others. Another question would be, if you were to drop the 7 micro entries, how many of those are already doing another class? And therefore won't actually free up an entry as they'll still need the pitting space. As has been mentioned, you still need to consider the H&S concerns in the pits. So the cap is actually the number of people in the pits. It also been highlighted that the COBRA club don't often see Micro racers at club nights, but maybe this is because you see them as less important than other classes?? As they're the first you've suggested as the class to be dropped then I'd certainly see it that way, and wouldn't feel very welcome at a club with such a view. One final point, it was mentioned earlier in this thread that as the top so many drivers in the championship were already booked into the COBRA round then it wouldn't effect the championship results as they could score points. Surely this is also just saying that your bothered about those racers who are currently running lower down the championship?? They may only be in the lower half as they've only completed one round and the COBRA round would have been their second round to count and potentially they could still be the series champion?? Ultimately every racer should be treated the same, whether their a winner of the 'A' or finish 7th in F final. |
ye but hang on thats not the view of the club that was me just sugesting it not the club saying it as i am not a member of any club so its not really tthe clubs view,i only suggested it because if cobra would be dropped then 2wd/4wd would only get 2 rounds nd micro 4 so it was a compramise sugestion thats all, but u say im basically bias for the class im raacing in and you are correct phil but then by the sounds of your ur lastish paragraphs ur biased towards ur class.
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This is not a rant just a heads up for your information:thumbsup: First of all I think we need to clarify the people who are proposing that classes be dropped or Dates changed etc are NON COBRA MEMBERS - Please check before making these assumptions and casting a decision over attending the club based on these assumptions;) We have 23 2wd entries only 3 less than the swansea round i believe and alot of these have supported every round 9 - that have attended 2 rounds 6 - that have attended 1 round the rest it is their first round so again please take care before labelling the club in such away that we only care about the top runners:( We are aware of who is able to win as chris mills has compliled a list so who he knows who he has to beat to win lol:woot: thanks dave |
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add 2nd or 3 rd class and hit save simples:thumbsup: |
There are reasons for the cap coming in late, but that is a club matter and couldn't be helped. It was literally last weekend (the first we have been able to get access to the venue since the weekend before Christmas) that we could finally tally up pitting arrangement, as this will be the first regional we have held at the event.
The weekend will go ahead, and as long as there are enough entries per class, a heat will be put on, currently classes entered are 10th 2wd, enough for a heat, 10th 4wd, enough for a heat, micro, enough for a heat, trucks, not enough for a heat, those entered trucks are being asked if they wish to do another class, if not, then there entry will be cancelled. Right, now comes the easy bit, this may be a WRCA organised championship, we use the term 'regional' but it isn't really, as this is not a championship that will affect your LICENCE GRADE, we call it a regional series, but it isn't, it is a series organised by our regional organisation. COBRA will look again this weekend as to whether we can fit any more people in, if so, we will let you know, if we can't, we can't, this is Marhsfield Village Hall, not the TARDIS. |
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Dave's running a different car each round!! lol
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As part of Swansea club I think to say this is a joke ,
No disrespectc. I have had limited acces to the internet and with Xmas being such a busy period for me I planned to book in with my old girls Internet this evening , Low and behold , capped !!!! Well this is just amazing , to bd honest it sums up everything I've heard about thd wrca in previous years I can clarify for myself and many others that I will deff not be supporting the wrca in future events Btw , yes micro I was going to race along with many others If the venue was do small and the club was in finacial difficulty they should have explored this avenue before this joke !!! No offence , what faith will majority of people now have in cobra no offence and especially the wrca for letting this go ahead |
Phil, we favour no class, actually, the class that a lot of COBRA members run, isn't even catered for. Just the way the figures stack up, size of entry goes Truck, Micro's, 4wd then 2wd. I can't see the micro drivers who are booked in, cancelling, so Micro's will still go ahead.
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Also, numbers this year are up from last year, and unfortunately, in Cardiff, it is difficult to find a venue that a) is open on the weekend, b) actually wants toy cars running in there and c) financially viable. |
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The venue racers 10th 2wd and 4wd every week no problems thanks so not that small;) We just decided we wouldnt book an expensive hall that couldnt be refunded just in case we had a large intake and tbh 1 week before an event we only had 20 entries it didnt make sense - I'm sure you'll agree most other clubs wouldnt just spend £300 willy nilly - lol that saying always makes me laugh :woot: |
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Unfortunately it only too common on oOple over the past years or so :bored: |
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You can run 1/5 scale in your garden comfortably , but if you invite your street over you've got a problem Just like this , the venue may hold club. However obviously to small for an event This is clear pitting in 3 different locations just for a wrca Nonoffence the people defending this are thd people involved with wrca and cobra No doubt if it went ahead , and was over booked it would damage both names due to size so u can see why it's capped as we'd be like sardines No ones saying thd halls to small to race , it's to small to acomendate the event such as racers and pitting |
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The difference is, Phil, even with a large entry, the previous venue lost money, as the council just kept upping the cost. And as we would only ever hold one 'big meeting' a year in there, the rest of the time, it was just a BIG drain.
Just for reference, out of the entries, only 8 of them are club members of COBRA. |
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Yep double edged sword but we've been on both sides..... We previously had the largest and most expensive indoor venue, which wasnt viable as a one off for this event as they wouldnt open the hours required to allow a full days racing including setup or allow us access the day before for the price ho hum - people moaned about that venue aswell but there we go:woot::woot: |
No disrespect to anyone
But my view is my view , for a club to hold an event it should be able to hold it Clearly , size hear is a factor And as a result many people have lost out As a club , you'd do everything to bring the best to anyone. If this cap remains , it will have a negative and adverse opinion on wrca and cobra sorry Bad experiences stick out over good ones This will stick and people will remeber that as members we have been failed again |
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That venue only ever once had a buggy track laid out on it! (well a bit of a buggy track) So no one will ever know if it was financially viable. Lovin the humour from the guys who are BOOKED IN.. |
Owens BOOKED IN (for now lol).
Dan, Cap remains currently, until we can get into the venue on Sunday and take more measurements, I can't see it changing unless we have a brainwave, I am sure people won't want to pit out on the patio. Dave, if you are that convinced that you can make £220 a day in entries at The Star Centre, we are more than willing to give you their contact details. |
Closing statement from Cobra
For those that missed the post earlier to summerise:
On Sunday we will be seeing if we can hold anymore people, if we can those who stayed on the reserve list will be notified and entered to the event within due course.Also an update will be posted on here:thumbsup: Thanks |
To be fair to cobra. I know all about costs and hall prices. And running at a loss is silly business.
But that's not the point here. Being able to run a round of the reginal that cant accommodate the members is just stupid. As Steve c said. This round is being run. Then if it does there should be no scoring points allowed. Currently if all the micro drivers who should be attending book in as there is a week left to book in. That will be the biggest class. We need a decision from the wrca. I would rather see cobra run this round but at a proper venue that can hold this event. On that note. I will offer you swansea and its track equipment. The hall costs £62.50 and bring your timing and tape. May not be what you want. But you keep the money and everyone can race. |
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