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MHeadling 22-12-2011 07:32 PM

Ramdrive well you have hit the nail on the head really, I used to race a Original Carbon tub Pred and a International back when I was a kid so wanted another one has the car is a similar design but evolved into the beast it is now.

It's also a bit different!

Iv had pretty much every 4wd, Bj4,Bmax, 501,511,B44 x 2, Durango and have owned a X11 and a X10 too, it's just nice to have a Pred in the fleet!

Still got Durango and B44 but looking forward to racing this beast next season!

VillageIdiot 22-12-2011 08:52 PM

these really do look a smart car!

Stu 22-12-2011 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neil_p (Post 597385)
Very nice build thread Mark, little surprised that no one else has done one before.

:eh?:

MHeadling 22-12-2011 09:17 PM

Stu, I laughed at that comment too...........

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/reviewxtremex11/

Andyp 22-12-2011 09:18 PM

Good build Mark ,nice to see one close up. i have always admired them and remember the being popular at the club i used to race at years ago (must have been around the xk98 era)

Be intresting to see you install , even tho you linked to BigGs, it does seem the servo is plonked in a funny place to me, seems it could have been placed further forward or back to create a little more space for other bits

MHeadling 22-12-2011 09:23 PM

Cheers Andy :thumbsup:

Yes this is the std spot for the servo in the lipo chassis, there are about 9 Preds at my local club and they have got some neat installs in this std positon.

I know Rebels X11 has had the servo moved back nearer the motor for more Esc room. As the HW speedo isnt that big I reckon I can squeeze it all in!

Check this for a neat install:


http://www.the-pred.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=788.0

Alter-Ego 22-12-2011 09:27 PM

That car is best car ever
Your linked!

Timee80 22-12-2011 09:34 PM

That car looks amazing!!:drool:

Stu 22-12-2011 09:35 PM

Superb car, I found it faultless, easy to maintain and lovely to drive. I have the review car here in front of me right now, I'll never part with it.

:)

Andyp 22-12-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Headling (Post 598156)

Eye nice and tidy that , think i had seen it linked somewhere before.

Im sure it will all go in some how, as you say and from the linked pics i would have been suprised if someone hadnt moved it around abit.

MHeadling 22-12-2011 11:01 PM

Yes that Super nice Pred has been on oople before, amazing build/install that guy has done, lets hope I can try and get some where near........ famous last words! lol!

neil_p 23-12-2011 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 598150)
:eh?:

Must have hurt Stu's feelings:lol:

I just meant that someone else hadn't done a build thread rather than a review. Mark thread is good but Stu's review is alot more in depth so I classed them as different. Oh well at least I can provide some light humor.

I'm not having a go btw Stu, yor review on the X11 was one of the main reasons why I bought the car.

MHeadling 23-12-2011 08:55 PM

OK update time, all electrics installed and working.

Shame the motor wires are not in the correct order so the motor wires had to be twisted, may put in my SP V3 motor at some point so will see what this come out like.

I have smoked out the wings with the Tamiya matt varnish PS55 and some new decals.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/y...ing/pred13.jpg

MHeadling 23-12-2011 08:56 PM

Rear end:

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/y...ing/pred11.jpg

MHeadling 23-12-2011 08:58 PM

New front bumper, this is a great option for all Pred's as it stops the nose digging in and flipping the car when you land nose in, with this new bumper the wheels make contact first so with a bit of throttle it should sort itself out!

I have also added a slot to the front wing bolt, this makes it easy to drop the front bumper off for caster washer adjustments.

Also added some SS bolts and blue C/S washers, the rest of the car will get some more blue bling soon..........

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/y...ing/pred10.jpg

MHeadling 23-12-2011 09:02 PM

Overall pic of the car now,

Next step is some race rubber and get the shell back from the painters and its ready for its maiden voyage! :woot:

I think I'm going to go for a classic vintage paint scheme on it... watch this space!

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/y...ing/pred12.jpg

MHeadling 27-12-2011 12:43 PM

Just a quick update for today, just painted this shell quickly as a stop gap till my pro painted shell turns up. Bit of Matt black again this time with a Monster twist.

Just need to pop to LHS to get some tyres and she is having her maiden run at Forcc at the next Wednesday meeting. :thumbsup:

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/y...ing/shell2.jpg

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/y...ling/shell.jpg

Stretch 27-12-2011 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Headling (Post 598471)
New front bumper, this is a great option for all Pred's as it stops the nose digging in and flipping the car when you land nose in, with this new bumper the wheels make contact first so with a bit of throttle it should sort itself out!

I have also added a slot to the front wing bolt, this makes it easy to drop the front bumper off for caster washer adjustments.

Also added some SS bolts and blue C/S washers, the rest of the car will get some more blue bling soon..........

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/y...ing/pred10.jpg

If you use a one-way propshaft as well you'll find it sorts itself out without the need to juggle with the throttle. :)

MHeadling 27-12-2011 10:49 PM

I personally don't get on too well with one ways, There isn't one listed as an option part for the X11 but you can use the X10 one way prop.

99% of the team guys just use permanent 4wd so good enough for them good enough for me!

Dave77 29-12-2011 08:33 AM

What a great thread.

I have been mulling over a 4wd for next year, and after being a "Team" driver back in 94 with the very first carbon tub pred, I have always had a soft spot.

I would love to campaign one again and promote something "different" in Scotland from everyone else, just like I did back then......maybe even the same paintjob :D

I think this thread is clinching it for me, now the question is where is the best place to purchase one and where to get the best deal!! Acouple of shops I looked at had the Lipo version £70 apart in price (unless Iam mistaken).

Honeybadger 29-12-2011 09:19 AM

It'd be rude not to run an X11 next year Dave. :thumbsup:

MHeadling 29-12-2011 10:34 AM

Dave, I would send Team Xtreme an e-mail (see team drivers 2012 thread) and see if Xtreme are willing to help you out with a car to promote in Sctoland.

Xtreme only sell the lipo car now with the orange steering arms etc, so its full spec out of the box! :thumbsup:

Dave77 29-12-2011 10:58 AM

Thanks for the quick reply Mark, I have popped a short note to them as an initial enquiry.

Cheers!

InsideLineModels 29-12-2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave77 (Post 599980)

I think this thread is clinching it for me, now the question is where is the best place to purchase one and where to get the best deal!! Acouple of shops I looked at had the Lipo version £70 apart in price (unless Iam mistaken).

As Mark said, get in contact with xtreme as they may be able to help. I think the £70 difference you're referring to is the fact that the team xtreme site doesn't include VAT.

As far as I'm aware it's only us and team xtreme themselves that carry stock of the X11 parts, so I don't think you'll find many shops to compare prices with.

We don't have any kits in stock but do have a lot of spares currently at a discounted price :thumbsup:

Kev

Dave77 29-12-2011 02:33 PM

Thats good info thanks Kev. Ok I missed that too on the VAT, that makes sense.

Cheers.

Team No Idea 29-12-2011 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Headling (Post 598467)
OK update time, all electrics installed and working.

Shame the motor wires are not in the correct order so the motor wires had to be twisted, may put in my SP V3 motor at some point so will see what this come out like.

Hey mark great to see it all done! are you ready to run it next week? Interesting reading about servo position, i have moved mine back slightly towards the motor to make more room for the speedo. However i have noticed some "flex" now in the chassis when the servo reaches full lock, im not sure if it was there before or if its where i have made 2 new mount holes. It is Very minimal but worth taking a look at.

MHeadling 29-12-2011 03:27 PM

Looking good Martin! :thumbsup:

I'v squeezed it all in for now, we shall see how it all goes.

Yes Im all ready to go now!

discostu 29-12-2011 04:06 PM

hi all

gotta say all looking good

wouldn't a saddle pack configuration make more room for electrics and even up the weight distribution this is just an idea as the current configuration clearly works.

stu

MHeadling 29-12-2011 04:48 PM

Hi Stu, cheers for the comments, looking forward to giving it a run.

Yes maybe the X10 layout (saddles at the front) could work on the X11? It would be a case of drilling some new holes in the lipo chassis.

As its so new and shiny I dont want to go drilling it just yet, maybe something to discuss with the team guys though??

It would be interesting to corner weight a lipo stick car and a saddle X11. If anyone has done this on a X10/X11 let me know............

The car seems fast enough as it is but something to consider perhaps....

Bungleaio 29-12-2011 05:19 PM

Don't go for saddles the car works far better in stick configuration. I had one of the very 1st 08 spec cars and converted it to stick after not very long it made the car handle a lot better.

discostu 29-12-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bungleaio (Post 600179)
Don't go for saddles the car works far better in stick configuration. I had one of the very 1st 08 spec cars and converted it to stick after not very long it made the car handle a lot better.

why surely a saddle configuration will even up the weight bias left to right but like mark said the team guys will know best.

mark cant wait to see it go the preds still look the nutts.

stu:thumbsup:

Bungleaio 29-12-2011 06:58 PM

It was quite a while ago but I was running the original track power ones. to get the front/rear balance level right it required quite a bit of weight up front.

With the stick pack down one side no weight was required and it allowed the car to pivot better.

Don't forget the car was originally designed to run in stick configuration way back in '94.

Bungleaio 29-12-2011 07:07 PM

A couple of photos of my installations, The electrics are smaller now so you should be able to get it a bit neater now. These were taken before I put the weights on the batteries. From memory I think it was about 60/80g on each one.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...6112008862.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...6112008863.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...6112008864.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...0320091221.jpg

discostu 29-12-2011 10:36 PM

luckly electrics are smaller now and lipos are heavier.

looking good.

Tom3012 30-12-2011 01:15 AM

The x11 was originally saddles as mentioned, but when everyone moved over to lipos it was found that the car worked better with stick packs...

I drove the pred a couple of years ago when the x11 first came out, tried saddles and sticks and sticks were always better...

Tom

discostu 30-12-2011 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 600366)
The x11 was originally saddles as mentioned, but when everyone moved over to lipos it was found that the car worked better with stick packs...

I drove the pred a couple of years ago when the x11 first came out, tried saddles and sticks and sticks were always better...

Tom

thats cool dont forget when lipos first came out in 2008 there were limited amounts of saddle pack lipos availble and the wasnt as good as stick packs hense the reason for the cat sx.

i dont think it would make much of a performance difference stick or saddles each to there own.

stu

neil_p 30-12-2011 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team No Idea (Post 600108)
Hey mark great to see it all done! are you ready to run it next week? Interesting reading about servo position, i have moved mine back slightly towards the motor to make more room for the speedo. However i have noticed some "flex" now in the chassis when the servo reaches full lock, im not sure if it was there before or if its where i have made 2 new mount holes. It is Very minimal but worth taking a look at.

I don't think that flex will be an issue.

Neat install there, I ran a Tekin in mine, but anything else in there I would of had to move the servo.

Don't know if you had the alloy parts re-anodised or if they will be for the RS but it looks really clean and alot better than the hit and miss blue!

goldy 30-12-2011 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Team No Idea (Post 600108)
Hey mark great to see it all done! are you ready to run it next week? Interesting reading about servo position, i have moved mine back slightly towards the motor to make more room for the speedo. However i have noticed some "flex" now in the chassis when the servo reaches full lock, im not sure if it was there before or if its where i have made 2 new mount holes. It is Very minimal but worth taking a look at.

I like your style martin, simple and very effective anodising makes your car stand out from the rest plus your install makes it look like there is loads of room in there. thought you might have gone for green though!

Team No Idea 30-12-2011 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by neil_p (Post 600425)
I don't think that flex will be an issue.

Neat install there, I ran a Tekin in mine, but anything else in there I would of had to move the servo.

Don't know if you had the alloy parts re-anodised or if they will be for the RS but it looks really clean and alot better than the hit and miss blue!


Cheers Neil:thumbsup:, i had it anodised again just to make it a little different. Like you say, i too don't think the flex is going to be a problem i just wish i'd taken a closer look at it when it was standard to see of it was there to start with lol.

Team No Idea 30-12-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by goldy (Post 600439)
thought you might have gone for green though!


Ah ha!!! now there is a thought...........may have to experiment with green anodising! :woot:


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