This makes sense...
This does not...

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Ill try to answer this but i have said it elsewhere on the forum.

Nortech is a Uk based company, a family run firm, they are known for bling in the rc world and also the fab nortech whities. They have collaborated with the guys at piespeed to create a new car that seems to be generating quite a lot of interest it is called PII. It will be revolutionary im sure and i think there will be some spy shots available anyday:o

lmfao Col, awesome :thumbsup:

Col, class :thumbsup: havent even read the thread, just flicked to this page and it made me laugh :thumbsup:

Nearly Lee :D

Seeing as you have let the cat out of the bag, I am helping a little with the design of the Toe Racing car that is still in prototype form.

They were hoping to have a prototype ready for the Neo, but I don't think it's going to happen. :( I think they are still going to support Team oOple at the Neo though! :D

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i assume that is for your lazer??

so surely if your such a good racer and not just a basher and been racing 4 years then why do you make these mistakes? if this is what happens on a lazer then whats gonna happen if you spend £350+ on a true race car?

im sure its not worth it? maybe if you stick with the lazer, wait until you have learnt a lot more, then progress? you dont even own allen wrenches, [see this post] and these will be almost essential with an s500 or an aero.

im not trying to get at you, just think that it is a bit of a waste of money :confused:

I aim to please.
Without Em around to "grammerate" the youth of today, we will be breeding illiterate people who can only write/type in abreaviated or bloody stupid text speak. Bad grammer simply annoys me - if someone like me can come through school spelling and making sense, surely anyone can:wtf::mad:

Me either Vinny, I'm just having a bad day...

LMAO!! practise what you preach ;)

its grammar :thumbsup:


but you do make me laff Col, so i'll let you off ;)

hi vinny.do you not think that it would be better to concentrate on improving your driving ability off road first before spending big bucks on the latest car?not saying your driving isnt good,just i think you would benefit more by spending a little time on your current car,trying different things on it.ive had many cars in the past as soon as they hit the shops(egress,trx1,explosion etc etc)and not one of them made me any better.stick with the rb5 for now,youll love outdoors with it.you will always get people saying their car is better than all else.also consider spares availability when choosing;dont want to break it in round 1 and have to go home early unless one of the top guys will lend you a part?

ok so i wasnt using the right tools but since iv got rid of the old stuff its time 4 a change and i WILL come back with some of the latest gear

lmao andy!

latest gear doesnt make you fast. you have to learn, gain experience.. work on the cars you have. what are you gonna do once you buy an aero? have one crash [maybe not your fault] break it and not have the spares to fix it and its gonna sit on a shelf doing nothing until those parts come, then your gonna do the exact same thing again and you will get frustrated and sell it.
in my last post i didnt just say about tools. how are you going to be faster with shocks without any oil in them?
it is the same with every car, you have to gain experience on and off the track, the best or newest car with the latest electrics wont just make you quick.

but anyway back to the original question, i would take the aero for now as it is actually released and is the only one really seen on the track.

hope ive helped

but if i do buy th aero will the parts be easy 2 get hold of or is it gonna be be a pain in the ass like the trf 501x or is the s500 gonna be easy 2 get parts for because end of the it does depend on the parts

Its his money let him spend it how he wants we can all give him good advice and he may listen to it or not its up to him. Aero will be pleased if he buys one I dont think they will mind if it is for bashing or racing as long as they sell them. I personaly would keep the car you have got now Vinny and wait for the Serpent not because it is a better car but you will have those six months until it is released to learn the basics like shock building and setups. I have been racing 20 years and am still trying to learn how to build skocks properly (ehh Carl). Any way thats my 2p worth, sorry Col if this is not to your standards I dont do the queens english I do Lancashire english.:D:D

The race place will be stocking parts, but seriously though i would think twice, even jez is trying to put you off and he owns a shop. Please listen to what people say, faster gear will not improve your driving it will only highlight your faults;)

Do you want to look a tit when you turn up with your shiney new gear and get blown away or put it in the wall.

Stick with what you have and buy one piece at a time and identify what will make you quicker.

I saw you on sunday and you were using some random tyres, smoked at least 1 speedo, and seemed to struggle when it came to setup. (Everytime you came back from a run we got high:thumbsup:)

Learn to walk before you run.

I JUST FANCY A CHANGE AND THATS WAT AM GONNA DO ITS LIKE THAT OK I HAVE A FEW GUYS DOWN AT THE TRACK WHO CAN HELP ME WITH ANY PROBLEMS SO TOUGH 'cookies'

wow, how silly am I, I thought we couldn't swear on here, so we all use *** instead.

Reading that last post, I feel a right ******* ****.

Spence
see me at worksop
lesson 101 shocks

seriously though Vinny, everyone is just trying to help, I've been in similar positions though when I was younger and went ahead and bought the fancy kit, and tho it didn't make me quicker it didn't make me slower either, so do what you want to do!

If you have an rb5, you can use that when the fancy car breaks anyway!

haha, this thread has got a bit out of hand! :eh?:

pm me when you total your new car mumraw , i hope its cheap :p:woot:

Why not sell your laser buy a cheap 2nd hand car off ebay or out of the forsale section and spend the other 150 pound eatra you where gonig to spend on an aero and buy some allen drivers shock oil decent electrics. Its no good having a 350 pound car and having a basic speedo and a cheap motor. Buy a second hand b4 and spend the rest of the cash on lots of ace stuff you are more likly to win this way.

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True, but that is a most genius edit :thumbsup:

I'm not really going to comment on this thread but Vinny has some top spec electrics, we don't need to worry about that. I must admit though, I thought you were 'relativly new to the sport' too.

I'd have to advise the same as the other guys. Stick with cars that are easy to work on and easy to get parts for and then just work at the basics, learn what the various set-up changes do and just keep pushing your self to be consistent on the track and it will come.

I have known people who have raced for a very long time who struggle to get a set-up on their car that suits them and over drive to compensate ... the result is they are a lot slower than they could be.
In that situation I normally try to do the best I can to put a "safe" set-up on there car and convince them a 1T brushless isn't going to be as good for them as a slower motor and they ususally improve in leaps and bounds. Sure there are plenty of people in your part of the work that will help you in the same way!

The most improtant thing is to enjoy racing .... after all it's why we go racing in the first place!

im not new 2 the sport iv done touring car 4 some time but then i changed 2 off road u cant mix the 2 once u change 2 something els its totally diffrent but iv got 2 say off road is way better than on road and its getting biger

Vinny, you may as well be a beginner then , i raced on road for 12 years, and came to off road and i was like a fish out of water, if it wasn`t for people giving me good advice then i would have found it a lot harder than i have.

If you re-read this thread then you will see a pattern emerging and it is people steering away from the top end cars. They probably only make a difference if your a top end driver. And to be honest mate people will only help you so much trackside if your going to go and do what you thinks best anyway and have an attitude with it:thumbdown:

ok thats wat u think anyway back 2 the real story i must say aero but if it starts at 350 then i will wait cos i cant be botherd spending that much or i might just wait 4 the serpent but i dont know how much thats gonna be

The Aero works out at £394+postage+bank charges, your looking at nearer £430

If I were you Vinny I'd run a B4 for a while, 4wd's are 5x more work to get going well and keep going well and also a lot more expensive in general than a 2wd. You've also got a lot less to think about on the setup, especially if you are running a B4 as the setup is pretty similar on most tracks.

Also how ever much motor you think you need get something a bit slower! When I first started racing many moons ago and my Dad was working on my car he wouldn't give me anything faster than a 27t. Driving with less power than I could handle taught me then how to get round corners properly and how important it was not to crash. I went on like that for at least my first 3 years and even then when I got a new motor it was an 18 double or something :lol:

When you can get round without making mistakes it's time to start spending big money on gear ;)

Don't let anyone stop you buying what you like, but everyone is trying to help :)

I’m not new to the sport, I’ve done touring cars for some time, but then I changed to off road. You can’t mix the two once you change to something else. It’s totally different, but I’ve got to say off-road is way better than on-road, and its getting bigger.

Thanks Stu!!

Actually I think the Kyosho may be a good bet if you want to do 4wd Vinny? Am I right in thinking its a stick pack configuration, so that means easier to fit a LIPO if your club allows them? Or do you definitely want something different (you already run a Lazer don't you?).

Also, I had the RB5 and it was nice and easy to build and maintain, I liked the shocks too, and from pics I have seen of the ZX5 SP it looks like a nice but relatively simple car, even if not the absolute fastest!

I have gone for the Aero myself, but am preparing for it to be a pain to put together (low profile servo only I believe, extremely tight packaging for receiver and ESC) and as its new I have only taken the risk as I'll have my trusty Tamiya and loads of spares as backup for if I break the Aero and can't get parts!

Not sure how easy it si to get Kyosho parts though I have to admit.

Its good to see emzy is back, things were slipping:confused:

i know everyone is helping me but its just i thought it would be good to change to 4wd

Give the ZX5-SP a try ... it's a great car, really solidly built and as for not being the outright fastest .... well shall we say I'm not sure thats true!! All I will say is that since changing chassis TO the ZX5-SP I have found it a lot easier to be consistent and when I check the the individual lap times against people I'd hope to be compint with running cars like the S4 (whos going to say that's not a fast chassis???) I am there or there abouts.
The only thing holding me back at the moment is ME. After a few years away doing rally cross and another nearly full year where I had little to no use of my left arm my 1/10th off-road is what you might call a little rusty!!!

Coming to 1/10th off-road from rally cross was a major shock to the system ... especially as I have been away I'd lost tough with the progress in the electricals ... where did all this punch come from?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

The key to being quick in 1/10th OR is being smooth and consistent. Don't worry if you a half second a lap slower than some people .... all it will take is for them to have 6 second crash in a 12 lap race and your equal again!

We are all trying to help you get the best experience you can from what I now know, without doubt, to be the best form of RC racing.

The advice about 2wd is good too as it will help calm the thumbs down. The B4 has been recomended and it apears that a lot of people use just one set-up everywhere. I personally never liked the B4 and still don't, the Kyosho RB5 is just so much easier to drive hard so if you already have one of those stick with it. I can give you a great set-up that will be easy to drive .... I will admit that I have been searching for the 1-fits-all set-up on the car and I think I have now found it and am more than happy to share that with you too.

Hope it all works out well for you mate, it takes time but it's worth it.

Can i ask why Vinny?

I think everyone should start of with 2wd and learn to drive properly, it really will set you up better for when you really are ready for a 4wd.

I think if you really read back through this thread you should see what the sensible option is, its up to you then if you let your heart rule your head:yawn:

dont believe there is an official price yet seeing as the car could be up to 6 months away

Sorry mark i meant aero:confused::lol:

if u can help me with the rb5 then thats good but i dont know do race at batley

http://www.rceasy.com/wp-content/upl...7/10/zx506.jpg http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/world...day4/zx501.jpg
wich sp r u talking about i hope it this cool looking carbon one when is this gonna be in shops