I believe it's to make sure all types of electrics will fit in with no problems, although they look like they would being thinner anyway....you don't like curves then wraggy? ;)

That looks the business, the absolute business. What a treat we have for 2008 :drool::woot:

agreed! when I started racing in 2002 the selection was pathetic. now there are more cars than I could possibly afford - and I want them all :lol:

Likewise :drool::woot::drool::)

Snap! and thats where the wife and I have a difference of opinion:lol:

i see that a reciever and ESC has not been fitted. It almost looks like we would have to choose one or the other! I wonder if there is a pre-order list?

Well that looks nice doesn't it!!! You just can't knock Serpent for build / manufacturing quality as they are amongst the best in this business!!

The weight distribution will be interesting to see. Servo and cells on the centre line ... great ........... going to have to be a really FAT speedo and Rx to balance the motor to get the front side to side distribution on the money ....... or a lot of lead!!!

One of the 4wd's I have sitting on my desk in front of me has to use only 10g extra weight to get the side-side weight distribution spot on both front and rear and the other needed less than that!!!! Before anybody pipes up my stock ZX5-SP is under the desk and the BJ4WE is in a different room.

Don't want to sound too negative and please read this how it is meant ...... just wondering about relative corner weights of this car when compared against some of the others.

not had any input! looks like lipo could be a squeeze but i spooted a way to fit em already :thumbsup:


last thing i heard they were using alloy as the chassis

Any estimated release date??

Apologies for repeating other peoples question!

normally in May

Aren't you mistaken with the CAT ??:cry:

T'aurais pas confondu avec le CAT ?

Well, looks rather familiar to me...

If I was Aero, i'd be setting my lawyers on these cowboys :):);)

Wasnt the durango out much before the aero and the atomic carbon cars? And if they are going to play that game I guess jconcepts, associated, and hotbodies are gonna have to duke it out as well. IMO this is the best wheeler I've seen and I'm really digging the aluminum chassis.

Yeah I was wondering the same...

Are brushless motors lighter than brushed? If a brushless motor is a bit lighter, then that combined with the bigger, heavier brushless esc might re-balnce the car somewhat.

How good does it look :thumbsup:

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/gall...S500Body-4.jpg

cccccccccccrazy. but i like it!

Rog - Brushless motors (Novak L's anyway ;) ) are lighter than my brushed motors and the ESC are certainly bigger and heavier than my old brushless ones. Not sure if it exactly balances, but not a million miles off.

Don't get me wrong ... this car dose look Amazing:drool:. But I like the S4/S44 Carbon Fiber based chassis better...
I don't think it will bother me as much to struff-up that alu chassis as it would a carbon one.
Humm... hint hint

i was last told sept/october ish

what came 1st the durango or the aero?

I've been at the CAD station recently Dan and before I started I weighed lots of options, although I must admit that I used Paul W's cell weights as lets face, what is the chance Paul's scales are significantly in error ... zero .. LOL

I've compared brushed combinations (Nosram Dominator speedos and BRM / checkpoint motors) and brushless (Novak GTB 5.5R and LRP TC and X11 6.5) along with servos from Hitec, Futaba and KO. Also taken both AMB and MRT PTs in to consideration too.

Based on those measurements and my CAD models the S500 will have to be fitted with more lead than an Edwardian terrace's plumbing if it's too balance perfectly side - side both front and rear.

How much will people notice it? Open for debate.

[quote=mark christopher;92286]i was last told june ish

Looks like another long wait :thumbdown:

Does it want to be equal front/back. Most current cars that are at the top of the lists have the batts at the back for more rear weight.

Roger, when i raced on road i tried this and i had to add 170g to get my car up to the weight limit, so i made sure the car was balanced perfectly side to side at one meeting, now i will say i noticed a very slight difference but i dont think it made lap times any faster to be honest and remember this was snooker table smooth. On a bumpy off road track i really dont think it would make the slightest bit of difference

I meant that the front side - side was equal across the car and the rear side - side was equal across the car, not that front and rear weight distribution would be equal (ie. 50 / 50).

If you look at comparing the S4 and BJ4WE it's based on you will find that the front / rear split on those cars are quite different, some will prefer teh stability of the more rearward weight balance of teh BJ4WE ... many seem to prefer the more forward weight distribution of the S4 as it makes the front the car easier to set up to steer agressively.

It's all about personal preference at the end of the day. I was just stating my first thoughts on seeing the car, not wanting to start some heavy debate.

No doubting that the Serpent is going to be built almost bomb proof .... I remember my old 1/8th on-road car from the late 80s ... if you hit something with that it disintergrated and the Serpent just carried on!!

I am sure it will be the strongest off-roader out there which will make it very popular for that reason alone!

I read your post as front/rear and side/side

sideto side will make little change in buggy, check rally x, tc is more pedantic on set up like this

[quote=franki;92291]good things come to those who wait!

[quote=mark christopher;92368]You have got me there mate very true. :woot: does that mean Man City will win somthing this year as i have been waiting for ages:woot:

[quote=franki;92406]
No it doesn't :D

[quote=matdodd;92580]He he

Could you elaborate? I'm unsure how it could not matter whether a car is balanced or side heavy. If the car is heavy on one side it's going to jump crooked and turn in one direction better than the other. Just ask my BJ4.

Contrary to that, the S4 has the motor in the front, and the batts in the back, and it's well known that it's a weight forward car. The motor in the front adds more weight than the batteries in the back.

News from serpent THE PRICE IS 450 euro + -

I'm guessing that would equate to about £320-£350 depending on money strengths and all

It sounds tweaked to me mate, i have never had a problem with the Bj jumping crooked, its always very predictable. Im sure mr lowe would back me up on this, as well as doughty and the other people who run cars with the motors that run length ways.

There is far more rotating mass with in the wheels and tyres to out weigh the difference between the motor and speedo, servo and reciever

Plus the motor spins toward the centre of the car so surely that would try to lift that side of the car as well????

Let's hope it's not just pretty to look at like the S400 which has the crappest plastic known to RC...

It does look the part though...

do you own an S400 or is that just a rumer???
Cuz that dosen't sound to good.

the summer season ends in august:(

not the best time to bring a car out IMO

I think AE got the timing perfect with the b44, before the hype of the cat, aero and serpent, even before xmas. whatever happens now they have made their cash:thumbsup:

I can see it now, though! The thing is done! :( As if I'll be able to afford one... lol