Im going mad here, I can;t see the new list!! Hope its a good link when I get home, LOL. if not, please can somebody save the PDF and email it to me, (PM me for email address)

I need to see it!! before I explode!!

not really sure to be honest, but they are a world better than the super world team IB packs I have. I don't even take those to races with me anymore - they go out of sync instantly and feel soft.
I need to have a clear out of old cells.. any idea what to do with them all?

Salt water Jimmy:thumbsup::thumbsup:

thats strange as my world packs are the best ones i have ..
loads of power and ridiculous amounts of punch from them ...

yeah,my new ib's didn;t even get to see the race track:mad:load of :mad:i won't swear in public:Di reckon your local tip,recycling centre will dispose of them for you.

I've got some 2 year old ones from someone and they are alright - used them at the weekend. But my brand spanker top-line ones from last year didn't see the track before they were knackered - and became useless pretty quickly.

I only just got an equalizer (for xmas) but the old IB's I still use were NEVER equalized for 2 years and are still going strong.

I ran the Orion SHO 4200's matched by peak at the weekend and was really impressed, Voltage was as good as IB's but they are a lite bit down on run time v IB but to be honest who needs every second in off road was still coming of with 1600 still in them after each race!! I would recomend the cells to anyone

Sweet, looks like my cells are on the list!!!:thumbsup:
There is a good chance I will be able to supply these if anyone is interested.
Not 100% confirmed yet though. But you can let me know if you are interested!!!!

So my Nosram 4200's will be no good for this season then:eh?::(

Oh no GP4600

Im not sure what to get my gp4300 are holding up for now may get soem more next year.

A

I see it now, pictures too. Great presentation! :woot:

Id like to run the Orion cell given a choice, for me it all depends on what the matcher is matching, im glad we now have a list so that can be decided!!

ph well, looks like I got 10 packs of GOOD cells that would be no good for a national, and I was going to try and get an entry for Talywain....

Strange that the Intelect 4200's are still on there, considering it's those that seem to be going pop.:confused:

I'm not complaining, 'cos it means all the cells I've got are still legal. :)

Hey Tel, I spotted that too, but it says "revised 2008 spec" so do be careful mate - im not sure just when this spec has been made available, theres a chance some of us have them already..

So does this mean say you went to nationals with GP3300s, cells which were widely used and werent a huge risk of going bang, are not allowed. Yet the IB4200s, which were widely the reason for these fears being brought up, are still allowed?

I am not happy at all, all my cells are not legal anymore. I purchased these cells in september last year in good faith that I will be able to run them this year as I used the same sort of battery all year in the national series, now they have been taken off the list. How are the people that fund there own racing able to afford a big outlay like this is going to be if I want to race in the nationals. I am totaly pissed of now beyond words.

They have gold lettering on them not silver (mine are all silver).

I am complaining because i wanted by EP's to last half way through 2009 aswell :mad: im not doing nationals but i like having legal equipment and for the sake of not having '2008' written on the labels im a little naffed. I got my EP's cheap off demon and it still cost me £100 (ok, not alot for most people but it takes me 10 weeks to save up that money) yet the new cells are going to be more like £50 a pack, im just getting on with 3 packs now, i couldnt do a regional with 2 packs and i can not afford £150 on cells. Bring on LiPo.

Rant over.

dont' buy cell's till the list comes out! same every year

josh i doubt very much its a case of just not having 2008 written on them!! if you really think all the would change is the writting to make them legal over last years version then well your beyond help;):D

i would assume its a completely different cell to the one you have otherwise it wouldnt be legal, as the silver writting one from what ive been told exceeded the size limit....

Change the record please Chris, these guys have innocently bought new cells in good faith with expectation of being able to use them.

September last year there was no hint of IB's being taken off the list, was there? Previously, cells which were homoligated remain homoligated.

Go back 12 months, and the reason for waiting is to see which better cells are legal, but those who weren't bothered (i.e. Spencer) would still be fine on old cells.

I used those cells last year with no problem infact 95% of racers used those cells last year that is why I bought some more thinking there would be no problem. I needed to buy cells when I did as my older cells had give up. They where on the list last year so that is why I purchased them not expecting them to be taken off. If I was buying cells now I would look at the list as I did last year.

every reason chris...after all there's been problem's with the cells for a while plus if people actually bothered reading the rule book once in a while they would have known about the size change's occuring in 2008.....

so the recorded keeps playing on and on and on and on....all my cells apart from 1 pack are buggered since september but i havent bought any new until the list come's out....

Is this list correct, No GP 3700. Hows that right ?

thats like saying but i used mini pins at kiddy national 2 years ago and bought loads to use last year but couldnt as the control tyre changed. everyone knows not to buy tyres until the national list is produced, exactly the same as the electric board list so why are people moaning........! enough said really

Some of us will still be using old cells from last year not new ones for the nationals, well that was until the list came out and all my cells are now illegal bugger.

Are you sure there a completely new cell? They has been one reported case of an EP cell exploding and the BRCA have reportidly put some examples through some really rough testing abusing them in nearly every way possible and have had no detinations so i dont see how they need to bring a new '08 version out to make the rules. I measured one of my EP cells as soon as its peaked (used for 2 nights a week since end of June) and it measured 43.3xx mm in length so it must be less than 43mm sat normally.

Josh - thats the whole point of the rule change, they need to be 43mm or less no matter what state of charge they are.

gold label not silver
consult where you bought them from, thier crystal ball is busted
they were not submitted!!

bring on lipo, for me!!

I know thats the point of the rule change but i bet that theres a new EP cell out there thats over 43mm in length, anyway i'll leave it there and have to fork out for cells, theres nothing i can do about it so theres no point wasting energy ranting about it on the internet.

Very much agreeded with.

As long as you're not doing nationals your cells are perfectly legal, anything on the 2007 list is fine for regionals and then at a local level it's up to your club what they let you use. The new list only affects BRCA national championship racers.

And I'm with Losixxx, if you are a national racer (and if you read the rulebook) you have known about this rule change for 2 years now. The change of rule was still in there last september and it did say all cells had to meet the new smaller dimensions regulations and had to be resubmitted to be legal.

Then again, if you are not a national championship racer the new rules make no difference to you.

That makes the cell illegal. It must now be no more than 43mm in length at any time during homologation testing, not just when it's fresh off the production line. If they bring out a new cell that's bigger than 43mm it will never be legal.

Mine too:( The Wife is going to love the new Batteries she gets for Valentines:wub

mmm so my GP37's are now illegal, but at least my GP43's are still ok, can I use my GP37's in Practice at nationals and then use the GP43's for the races?

only if theyre 2008 spec

Im not going to debate over it, im just trying to give some understanding to the lads who are in unfortunate position such as Spencer.

OK I am really confused now :(

I have GP3700 so I can no longer use them?
What about my GP3300's that I use in 2wd?

I'm talking about nationals and regional meetings.

Yes I know the rule changes have been imminent but at the moment I am not a happy bunny

Oh, so they are illegal as well:(?

So what happens if you have only been racing offroad for 1 year bought new cells in November, got a F3 grading so can race Nationals, but could now have illegal cells ?

All the old cells such as 3700s and 3300s are now technically illegal for national championship racing, mainly because they weren't submitted by the manufacturers. I suspect none of them would have problems with the dimension rules, but then it isn't in the manufacturers best interests to keep on submitting old cells.

Unfortunately you have to buy new cells for the national meetings. There's no way around it.

I know my cells are good for the regionals and im fine for that, if they wernt or i was doing the national championship then i would buy the new cells at i would deem it worth it but i had considered doing the juniors this year (which i believe is a national therefore would abide by the new cell rules) but now i cant do it because i cant afford the cells for it, kids racing on pocket money do struggle with things like this.