Thanks for the info on dates, Jim.

Starting to look like we might need to slip into Oct when the calender is slightly less full.

25th Sept - Clanfield club series
2nd Oct - Remote club series
16th Oct - Remote club series
23th Oct - Clanfield club series
30th Oct - BRCA AGM (not sure how many people would be attending this)

So how does the 9th Oct sound to everyone? Really do not want it much later as likelihood of good weather is getting smaller.

Rob

Ok, the date looks to be the 9th October, looks to be a clear date from all other major meetings.

Thanks Rob for looking into dates, hopefully will see a great turn out:thumbsup:

In the diary.

Hopefully will be able to field a bracklesham model car racers team.

October is great, that should be fine :thumbsup:

Ooh, this sounds like a good wheeze. I'd be in for a bit of enduro action, we'd have to have a 'dash across the track' Le Mans style start though:lol:

I'm sure a fair number of Clanners will be up for it, I'll make sure everyone knows at Slough on Sunday.

This is looking very popular and now we have a date i would let stev or myself now if you are coming so you are not disappionted

I'm in and two others
may be set up a pay pal account so once u payed ur in
I would be more than happy to pay pal
let the racing begin!!

9th Oct looks like a date!
Count me in.

Sounds like a plan stan:thumbsup:

if you want to pay before to get a place i would get in tuch with stev b .
once we have fill all the teams that will be it

count me in too, will get a 2wd b4 then . cheers gw

I reckon SHRCCC could raise a team!.

Sounds exciting!

Perhaps you could make it a single make, maybe just use a cheap RTR model and a shop have a stock of all spares (motors/speedo's etc) and just use the one car per team?

Just to make sure you count me(adam) and craig in will be a good day

i'M IN.:thumbsup:

Oh, I really like that idea - you can get a madrat RTR car for £100 on ebay so I am sure someone would do a deal on 6 or 8 of the things.

Cars get handed out an hour before the start of the race and you get that time to trim it out, glue a set of tyres on, drill a hole for transponder and change the battery connection if necessary. No other modifications allowed.

Winning team get one of the knackered cars each instead of a trophy:D

Be much more an endurance test as you'd have to drive carefully enough not to trash the car in the first hour.

Main negative would be that the entry fee would need to be fairly high to pay for the cars - probably about £20 each to cover car and a set of decent tyres. I guess this would put a lot of people off?? Plus would cars be stupidily slow?

Rob

RTR are quite quick, it's maybe something that a manufacturer might be keen on (or not!!!!) I'm sure people would stump up the cash as it would fun. At least if we all have the same car changing cells would be the same time for everyone, unless you had a mandatory 'pit stop' of 3 minutes.

i do really like the idea of a level playing field car wise. the only issue that crops up for me is if the speedo blows up, what do you do? Do you let a team member put in their own speedo and risk losing that too, or does the team have to stump up for an exact spec replacement part to keep the car "standard"?
Also most RTR cars come with wheel radios, so what about those who want sticks? Can you swap over the radio gear - assuming the whole team use sticks?

I have a mad rat rtr.

You'd need to ball race them - £10

The brushless rtr is actually pretty fast, the servo however makes an acoms as7 seem fast!

You also have to spend a lot of time on the gearbox to free it up when ballracing it. The idler gear has to be filed down and some plastic taken off the gearbox to make it work well.

Next time Im down I could try the car on standard tyres to see what they're like.

As this is just a bit of fun I think mixed teams with own cars would be better. Take a look at the 24 hour thread for an example of the issues that using a spec car causes.

As mentioned above the less rules the better. Less rules =more fun!

Kit tyres in the Rat are a joke, no way you'd want to use them... although we could probably use them to handycap Mr Brown:lol:

Ok, I think a one make/hand-out car race is probably a bit ambitious for our first enduro race. Cost is going to put a lot people off and it going to cause a lot more rules issues.

Probably more appropriate for national events.

Really fancy entering one of the 24 races one day though.....anyone else?

Rob

was very tempted by the Ardent 24hr this weekend. Only problem was that I'm working at brands hatch today - saturday so couldn't make it.

One that doesn't clash with a Caterham / Ginetta race weekend would be good!

floodlights for TORCH :)

nah, strap some LED's to the car for that real 24hr feeling!!

Hi Guys
Any update on if this is going ahead? Final dates, team numbers etc?

Hi,

We have a commitee meeting Friday and will confirm Saturday?

Key points:

1. Team Members per team 6 - 8
2. £10 entry fee all individual? tbc at this stage
3. 6 hours racing 9 - 10am start
4. Mixed 2 and 4wd allowed
5. Mixed teams of ability is required
6. Entry form to be produced after Friday meeting.
7. One PT number per team
8. All other details will follow confirmation of meeting.
9. Prizes or trophies?

If we can a some comments from people to confirm the interest and if any sponsorship for meeting? Raffle etc? Simon?


Thanks steve

Seems good but perhaps Mikey could go through the entrants lap times and 'pick' teams that are equal to make it fair?. Otherwise it would only need 2 or 3 top boys in a team of six to walk it.

Well up for this let us know.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

I am up for this, what about some sort of team entry fee that included a cheap car, eg mad monkey. RC lazy would make a killing on spares and no one would need to wreck there own car. Would still need electrics, but would make the field even. One thing i would add is i would want to choose who i race with not be put in a team. Can't imagine that is a big issue as not really one of the quick boys :blush:

Top Idea. If you were to start earlier one could build the cars also.:woot:

Yeah, think they are only £65 quid each or something and that's without any discount. Team of 6 paying what 15 - 20 each and the club still makes some money into the deal. Could raffle the cars off at the end of the day as well?

Might be worth putting a bearing kit in there also;)

Likiing the idea of this
I would like to enter as a team not picked for a team.
Think the idea of Dibble's is great buy Mad Monkey's limit the amount of upgrades ie; just bearings and perhaps diffs just for durability everything else stock.
Pick your own ESC & motor, maybe have a motor limit 10.5turn max so as to minimise damage
One make tyres? not sure!!!
Teams of five.
Must always have a marshal on track assigned to a set position drawn from a hat to avoid any arguments, If missing from your marshalling point a ten lap penalty will be deducted (if possible with BBK)
Raffle the cars at the end of the day is good or retain them for newbies to use at slighty higher cost (with deposit) not sure if this would be practical, raffle is better. cars could be collected one week prior to the event to allow build time and all team members to inspect cars and setup.
I think this could be a good event for the club and members.
Make sure event is on my day off :D so i can attend.

only probelm with a one car set up is who out of the 5-6 team members gets to donate the electrics and get them fried for 6 hours?! If you want to club together for electrics as well it makes it more of an expensive day. If all 6 team members run their own cars then each car track time is only 1 hour, so no more than a normal national/regional.
As much as i like the even car idea, i think it will put a lot more people of on cost grounds.

Steve - one question on the PT thing. Are you talking proper PT, or club hand out? I was just thinking if you have 20 club handouts that is 2 per team, so one in the car and one in the next car waiting in the chageover zone?
If you use PT, how do you propose to swap it between cars at change over? Not sure people will be happy plugging/unplugging the PT 30+ time in a day pulling on the wires etc?
just a thought

If it was £30 per head then I sure someone could sort out a cheap brushless combo's to fry. Still a cheap 12 hours racing.

I'm going to try and organize a charity one.

i think £30 per head would put a fair few people off compared to £10 per head. Especially with high fuel costs to get there and tyres for the day etc.
And if the cheap combo you have blows in the first hour, again who donates their own kit?

Then you also have the issue of sticks vs wheel. If you have a team with half and half you can rule out the one car set up. Or you settle for driving in a team with out your friends, which again will put people off.

I think Jim lays out the reasons here why for a first stab at a team event I am expecting the decision to be to go down the route of each using own our cars. We could probably get a meeting running along these lines in Oct before it gets too cold.

Not sure about the transponder issue - even if we could get hold of enough handout transponders, do they last 6 hours without a charge? Would not personally want to be yanking a personal transponder in and out of my receiver in a hurry several times.

Rob

Each team nominates one transponder, this has to be swapped in the pit stop. Use a servo extension lead to avoid unplugging from the reciever)

Even with a servo lead you are still pulling on the transponder wire each time. Maybe if the club had 20 hand outs, you can have one in the car (to be swapped over in pit stop) and one on the charge rack? I don't own a PT, so it doesn't bother me. But if I'd spent 60 quid + on one I'm not sure i'd want it yanked around all day?