Also chris not everyone comes on oople,so whats the crack if your not an oople member and youve not seen all this booking in tuff shit? this is a disgrace i know a couple of people which dont live on here thats missed out already!!!

Eric, Set the computer on auto start to save time.

I really don't want to there until 8 OClock like last year.

Tony

so are you going to be the person telling some of the guys that havent been on oople which have got up early drove 60miles+ sorry meeting booked up go home??? cos i can name atleast 3 bury members which will just turn up as they dont come on here whatsoever!!

Matt i think what tony is trying to say is that its on every northwest web site that this year will be pre booking first, if you turn up and get turned away then thats just the way it is, you wouldn't go to something like a high class restaurant or something like that and expect to just get in,same at nationals u just don't turn up and race, so why expect anything different just because you didn't pre book, just the way i see it,

If its full its full, end of, if people turn up who arent booked in and cant race then thats just how it is! Why dont you tell the 3 people its fully booked so they dont make a wasted journey?

I really dont see the problem, its first come first serve, we cant have more than 12 heats, thats already a push! Thats an 1+hour per round, 4 rounds and finals... We just dont have the time to cater for everyone!

Beat me to it carl:wub

i know what your saying karl but it was turn up and race last year and the year before that,the goal posts have been moved with very little consideration imo,i dont have the contact details to tell the bury lads theyre not booked in.

But interest has increased dramatically! Pre-booking in was the only option...

Problem is that its gone from not having to worry about getting into regionals to having to monitor websites and book in well in advance to secure places.

Its not a good trend where the average club racer is unable to race at regional level. Wouldn't it be better given the demand to restrict people to entering one class?

every club will have been told, or contacted to let them no, ask roger why he has mentioned it,

the problem is you should and always had to book in with your own club or through them, they should have let you no this,its not a club day were you turn up and race,

If you don't use the web sites how do you know whats going on ? It's been all over every NW club sections and Southports own web site.
You certainly look at oople site with 776 posts.

Perhaps next year we may have to run 2wd & 4wd on seperate days. this is down to the clubs involved and the NW BRCA Rep.

i wasent talking about myself,if youd have read an earlier post properly you would know i was talking about other bury members which arnt oople members.

Seems to me that some clubs have given their own members the nod or pre-booked them into the regional. I dont know if this is common practice or the standard across the board. But with a large club with say 100 members restricting the amount of heats would limit the availability of places to visiting drivers there for clubs with smaller amounts of members would have more space for visitors. Just my thoughts
I'm not really bothered about racing at southport it's my least favourite club in the north west I think it takes its self far to serious and most of the members are arrogant and unwelcoming remember that's my opinion and I'm entitled to it !!

I have watched the progress of these emails with interest. On the positive side - it is great that interest has increased to the extent that there has to be a reserve list but not good for drivers who have not managed to book in. With a limit on nationals it is usually the event that allows the lower formulae drivers to be able to participate.

Having been involved with the Batley club now for 22 years - I have seen the trends change and clubs and regions have had to hang in and see through the lull when interest has waned. Both classes on the same day was obviously introduced when numbers were low and now with the increase maybe next year some regions will need to look at how the series is offered in order to be able to accommodate everyone - but for this year the calendar has been set.

I have yet to run a meeting where every driver that has booked in prior to the event turns up to race - there are usually places available on the day (especially when they have not had to pre-pay). Even at Nationals where drivers pre-pay - some do not turn up and forfeit the fee.

Another factor is the weather - depending on what it is like - some drivers will look out of the window and decide not to bother - especially when they have not paid!

My personal view is that all drivers should be able to race at regionals, wherever possible, within the time constraints for the club, and we should do whatever we can to accommodate them.

With the use of PTs by so many drivers, one option could be to have 11 cars in some of the heats - if the track is large enough to accommodate this. Something we could definitely consider at the Batley track.

BUDFISH i think what you said is out of order im not a member to any of the clubs involved in fact im from the other side of the country { hull east coast } and i got entry so what you say is wrong

I can definitely say that this is not the case for the Batley Regional. I have emails or PTs from all drivers who are entered and they would also be able to confirm that I have responded to their emails to confirm their entries.

I did send a text message to all drivers at our club (which is a system I have used for a while to inform them of meetings or cancelled meetings) and some of them have not yet booked in but they were all given the opportunity.

It has always been the responsibility of the driver to book in for meetings and once the outdoor meetings start it is up to them to make contact with the clubs involved.

Your entitled to your opinion as am I well done on your entry footsey xx

bud you couldn't be more wrong mate,southport,south lakes,keighly,batley,have all done the same, pre booking its online on here and there own sites,seems bury are the only ones that haven't done it or mentioned it,so you cant go around making assumptions based on what you think,

and just to top that bud were not members of any club me or matty,

I wasn't trying to imply any wrong doing on your side or anyone else's what I was trying to say was that with only 120 places and let's say 30 members race 2 classes 15 race 2wd only and 15 race 4wd only that's 75% gone straight away
As for you not being a member of any club I think you've been on the scene long enough to not get caught with your trousers down!!

Perhaps the answer is for people who wish to enter both (such as myself and most of the lads I race with) is to put in a preferred class, and then if numbers permit then do both, and if it is getting booked up just do one class. I would happily give up my 4wd place if someone who can't get in at all wants to race.

:wub are we feeling the love in here??!?:wub

I dont know were u get the people at southport are arrogant an unwelcoming there some great ppl there.u obviously didnt come over to the big blue tent an speak.come say hi next time ur there.

I can see both sides of the story here. Racers want to race, but equally the clubs have to be able to physically run the meetings and its only possible to fit so much into the schedule.
My own view is that preference should be given to those drivers wishing to complete the required number of rounds in the championship. I believe it would be unfair to book in say 20 local club members, who subsequently do not enter any of the other rounds.
I appreciate the only way to police this may be with a prepay system, which itself requires admin time. Maybe this is something the section can discuss for future years events.

I will then mate I've only raced there at regionals so maybe not the best time to gets feel for the club

Mate - just to be absolutely clear. Here at Southport we all saw the request from Eric for people to pre-book at exactly the same time this was posted on the SRRC and Oople sites. We received no advantage and no pre-booking by the club. I'm sure the same will go for the other four clubs running the Regionals. I should say I was tardy in booking and consequently didn't get on the list. This might be good news for the better drivers:(

i just hope the blue tents big enough:woot:

Budfish - I agree with Footey mate, you are well out of order with those comments. Its your opinion, yes but I'm sure you only formed those views because you can't get an entry? Southport is a well run club, run by decent individuals, end of story. I'm sure lots will agree with me.

I have a question, you're an oople regular, Eric posted 3 weeks ago on here about prebooking and what details he wanted. How many times have you seen the guys at Bury in that time? ok maybe you haven't seen them at all so you can't tell them, fair enough but why haven't you booked in? Have you booked in for the rest of the series or are we going to have this again a few days before all the rounds?

And for a guy who doesn't like things being taken too seriously, you seem to be doing a heck of alot of shouting.

Lastly I understand why you're annoyed. I know everyone looks forward to events like these and not to get in is a real pain but we have to show the organisers some respect, not shouting and upsetting people or they'll not bother giving up their free time for us and racing will stop. Then we'd have to spend time with our wives and girlfriends on the weekend and thats only ever going to lead to one thing, DIY. Nightmare!

Long live toy car racing!

andy i dont think budfish has come to that opinion cos hes not got in,weve both been back into racing for nearly 3 years now and have found that quite a few racers seam to think they are some kind of rock star because they can drive a toy car,the type im talking about are in their late 30s still live at home with mum and dad,single and youl find most of them are still virgins!!! have you come across any yet???

im sorry i thought this thread was for info on the southport reginal if you ve got a problem start another thread so we can keep this thread on topic

Mattb, I will agree when you have a large group you're not going to get on with everyone but that might be one or two and his comments are aimed at the club as a whole and I think thats wrong.

Lets all be glad buggys have returned strong, I remember regionals being 6 heats of 2 and 4 mixed. We are in a good place and yes I'm sure we can do things better next year but this year is set. I'm sorry some people can't race but its not anybodys fault, just life.

Anyway as someone kindly reminded us this is a thread about the Southport Regional so lets get back to talking about that.

Phew, at 61 that's let me off the hook :woot:

Can I remind everyone that at present Bury does not have a track, and is therefore not currently racing.
Our members (those that do not frequent Oople) therefore were not aware that events were pre-booking.

Secondly, I've had a very busy couple of weeks lately and haven't been on here that much. So I was amazed at how fast the rounds have filled up. Anyone on holiday over the Easter period has basically just missed the chance to book in for every round except Bury and we've only not started pre-booking because we want to be 100% sure our new track is ready and working first.

4wd filled up virtually instantly, entirely with people running two classes.

I find myself left in the curious position that I should be one of the people helping to organise the Bury round, and yet it does not seem like I will be competing in any regionals this year. I could race at Bury, but it seems a little pointless to steal someone elses place when I'm not actually competing in the series as a whole.

tony your a top bloke:thumbsup:

Don't be so quick to judge the 30 year old. With my missus shouting at me to get off the lap top and my little lad running around the living room destroying everything, I think he might be on a winner!:lol:

I would have liked to leave it longer before we offered pre booking for Keighley but we were getting messages and emails asking to book in so it was better to get it organised now, rather then in two month time searching back through all the emails and pm's to see who wanted to book in.

I do agree that people who arn't computer savvy might miss out but we're telling all the people we meet at our club meetings that we're pre booking and we've been sending texts to people we know don't frequent oople so were trying to be as fair as possible.

Its quite sad reading this thread to see some folks are not happy with the committee at Southport, I am one of the crew that spends my time away from doing my own house diy, to do work on the track fabricate the rostrum, rebuild the club house roof and so on. sometimes without thanks or gain.

If Budfish would like my 2wd and 4wd place on sunday, you can have them.
if you think that me being a srcc member who puts in a lot of work, to be on the driver list because i got the 'nod' before everyone else, then your very wrong. i had to send my intentions to race to Eric as well.

Last year, I/we at southport didnt not expect the numbers we got on the first regional and which resulted in the very long day with racing starting at about 12pm. there was no talk in the pits or on the forums to warn us of the possible attendence.
We aim to have 12 heats of racing and 12 finals started as early as possible, so we can be home before tea time and not supper.


Not directed at anyone:-

If your glass only every gets half full due to your lack of interest, then why bother.:eh?:

Southport Regional
 

Fellow RC Racers,

The facts are so:

The Southport regional was booked via a pre-booking activity advertised at the same time on Oople as well as the Southport website (srcc.co.uk) several weeks ago.

Booking-in was done on a first come, first served basis and I can assure you there has been no special treatment for anyone (in fact one of the committee members had failed to enter on time).

To accommodate the high numbers of racers wanting to race we have added an additional heat to the days running. This is down the committee members giving up even more of their Sunday to run the event (My thanks to them).

The event is now fully booked and the only option for anyone still wishing to take part is to join the reserve list and take the chance on the day of getting a place.

For those who do not feel welcome at the club, then please feel free to PM me or come and find me on Sunday to discuss this further. I personally feel that SRCC is a very well-run club and is welcoming to ‘visitors’ but we are always looking for ways to improve.

As mentioned previously, we have put on an extra heat to get as many racers involved as possible. Please assist us to keep the day on track by arriving on time (late arrivals may lose their place to people on the reserve list) and having the correct money for booking in (£7 per class).

Here is to a day of great racing in a hopefully sunny Southport! :thumbsup:

Gary
SRCC Chairman