I want it so I can share parts with me tourer (pulleys, layshaft gear, one-way etc.....

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/s...=219895&page=2

theres a couple of video links here.one of the buggy at the hobby show and another of it running by itself on a track

http://www.team-td.net/frame.htm for more pics of the body.

Latest TRF501X from the Japan race.

darn them and their tiny little photos!!!!

Car looks great though, I need one.

Man i so want one, regardless of it being a belt drive.
If it goes as well as my BJ it'll be superb.

Hopefully these pics are a sign that Tamiya will release it, and then hopefully they'll turn their hand to a 2wd as i think thats what we are lacking at the mo.... Not enough choice in that class

I got my contacts out listening for rumblings on whether it goes into production Jim.... and if it does, and I am defo going to get one, haul your arse down to South Wales for a photoshoot and a grope (of the car of course, don't want Vicky getting jealous, heehee)

theres now an English version of the tamiya 501x page, heres what it says:


At the 2006 IFMAR Pre-World Championships Race 1/10 Electric Off-Road held from September 8th-10th at the Ichirino RC Plaza Off-road Course in Hakusan City, Ishikawa Prefecture, the prototype of our high-end 4WD racing buggy TRF501X took 2nd and 4th place in the overall standings.

TRF Satoshi Maezumi’s Comments
For 2006, Team TRF (Tamiya Racing Factory) entered the prototype 4WD buggy TRF501X in the IFMAR Pre-World Championships Race 1/10 Electric Off-Road.
The TRF501X is being developed and tested with the goal of winning the IFMAR Electric 1/10 Off-Road World Championship that will be held in Japan in 2007. The Ichirino RC Plaza Off-road Course has a particularly challenging layout that tests a machine’s reliability, jump stability, and whether it has the necessary setting flexibility to deal with a wide range of surface conditions. We were able to pass all of these tests and achieve consistent lap times for a convincing demonstration of the machine’s high performance. My teammate Shinichi Suzuki and I were able to achieve 4th and 2nd place respectively during the qualifying heats. We had high hopes for the Finals, but they were unfortunately cancelled due to rain, so the qualifying rankings became the official results. Many fans came to the Tamiya booth at the event to check out the TRF501X and we fielded many questions, which indicated how much the R/C community anticipates the machine’s release. We’ll work ever harder on development and testing, so everyone can look forward to more improvements to the TRF501X in the future!!

sounds promising,the more competition and variety in electric racing the better i say.

I just don't get it how ppl can totally flip out cuz of that 501x that is just copied from the yok bx? i really don't get it!:confused: :mad:

look @ Kyosho... they did a really nice job with the new lazer and they dident copie nothing! the car is amazing for it's costs, but i bet the 501x will cost the double of that and still will be buyed more. cuz it's a copie of the yokomo...

shame on tamiya

we are excited as this could be the verge of Tamiya making it's first competitive buggy in over a decade..... and then some

hehe, dont hang about marco, say what you really think! :p

I know people will jump on the opposite and say its not a copy blah blah, well, personally you just have to look at it and you are hard-pressed to know it is a different car from the BX! At the moment it is just a prototype, so it has a lot way to go until production and could change quite drastically.

I think the shell is good enough that I don't care wether its a copy of the BX or influence-by or pure coincidence ! :p I still want it!

Influence is good, and for tamiya-fans its nice to have a competitive 4wd offroader since a decade, it just wasent mentioned that much (how i wanted it) that it is extrmemely "influenced".

my first buggies were tamiya too and i liked them, but when i started racing i just wasent that quick like the guys with the losis, yoke's and asso's. Thats why i also think that Tamiya does a Great job @ the touring-car's, but i would like them better to stay there and do the good job instead of getting to much influence, impulses and inspiration by other makes. it's just... "you can't get everything" And at the Moment it's like everyone is praising lord tamiya for having such a nice inspirated 4wd offroader. *burp*

I'm not sure anyone really said it was unique or ground breaking, but it IS a tamiya - and that is special. The only unique thing about the car is the body, which I think you'll agree not many manufacturers would be as brave as Tamiya to make such a crazy shell.

But I would like to see things evolve and for the car to take on its own personality / be unlike others. You can understand why they might copy an existing design so they have a good basis - then hopefully grow it from there.

:jimmeh

you only got to look at Tamiya's commitment in the touring car scene, at the top of the game for years, and for a company like Tamiya, who make ALL their money from rehashing cheap kits, to sit, focus and make a competitive buggy is good, just like Kyosho coming back after years.

We could talk for hours about that... lets just wait and see how the buggy will lookalike and most important how it will handle.

and yeah its a tamiya:D

i think these days there is only so much you can do with a car to make it different.when you look at most touring cars and offroaders they all bear resemblence to one another in different areas.about the only one that is drastically different is the predator and maybe the durango

im totally stoked that Tamiya is heading into the competeive side of offroad.i think it could be the best thing to happen to offroad in years.

LOL! and the rest like losi, bj4, zx5, yoke are all the same?

i'm trough :)

Marco a man after my own heart:D
i totaly agree
the pred is the best 4wd money can buy its just the best and i do not care at all what everybody else reckons, i know as i trained as a chasis design engineer,and a good freind of mine is Richard weatherly and what he doesnt know aint worth knowing:)

another mate works as a chasis builder at lister storm and he agrees:D

and also i own the only DURANGO 2005 in private ownership and it realy is the ultimate

all those losi/bj4/zx5/schumacher/worst yoko ever,bigger than a xxx4/infact worst buggy ever,yoko bx that is/things are in my opinion made for profit alone! not passion

cheers
sorry to be so contravercial, but it is true

Hold on which is better then, the pred or the durango ? :p

No matter what is "the best" choice is good and indeed the more the merrier!

Pred is best :D
Jimmy don't you run one? Anything special i should do when building my X10? Glueing the prop etc.

Cheers dude!

Yea mate!
I ran it at Oswestry, it was my worst ever national - NOT because of the predator though, that was ace. I just kept melting my motor, even in the final where I ran my B4 ! it still melted.
Gonna run it at bury over winter i think

Sorry cannot possibly say on a public forum:D
:D
but all i can say is all those people that havent tryed an x10 do so pronto with out childish uneducated prejudice

they are quicker ,and i dont care who says there not!:mad:
i had the first one out the factory ( check racechat,anyone got one yet! thread)

just look at the car side by side with any other 4wd!
its physics
and trust me theres nothing more fundamental than physics:jimmeh

For some, it isn't the car that is the issue Scott....

Please explain? PMSL haha
after all isnt this about racing the stupid things:D
if its not about the car then what possibly can it be?
if your talking any other aspect of racing eg-cells, speedo, radio gear these may help but put them in the correct chasis and they will allways be quicker

the only other thing i can possibly think your sugesting is that people do run cars for fun!
im talking racecars nothing else to go play with your WILD WILLY elsewhere!:smile: PMSL

im off to bed now :)
B4 I PMSL DCM

erm, I remember when the first car came out, then people finding faults, buying spares, only for an 'uprated' part to come out, so you had to go buy them, the other spares were obsolete, and it just seemed a sprialing circle of wallet emptying.

Now, I am not saying that is the car now, but that and other factors would stop me buying one.....

Like the propshaft, why charge people to assemble it if it such an important part of the transmission, should be assembled in the kit with no 'visible' charge.

from what ive read on various forums on the net, the pred is just as durable as the other 4wd offerings.if i ever went into the world of 4wd racing, whick i hope to,i will most probably go for one of the preds,unless tamiya drops a wicked 4wd on the market.....

at our track last meeting,one of the resident bj4we broke an arm a race,and that wasnt in crashes either.

um scott? hi there...

the driver must be quick... and if he is that, give him any chassis and he will win. offroad is more about driving, expierience and training than the material. even if you own the only durango in private ownership.

and no, the bx is not the worst yokomo ever made. it's the latest offroad flagship of a company wich developes that stuff since that sport had it's beginnings (1:12) and wich has some damn good drivers like billy easton and masami under contract. in fact it stands with the pred, zx5, xx-4, bj4 in the same line of the nicest electric offroad machines beeing currently produced and raced.

you should get one too :)

greets Marco

Ummm... total bollox (my opinion)

I agree with you Bathy!!!
Not taking anything away from T-Tech or Durango but i have run T-Tech before (worst car i have ever driven in my own racing experience).
Yokomo MX4 another really bad car.
I ran the MR4 BX first time out at the Regional champs and put it in the A!!!
Can't be a bad car then surely. Oh and there was 4 Yoke's in the A!!!!
I have always said that a pred in capable hands with Mr Weatherly next to you is one of the quickest cars around without him well!!!
As for the Durango, it is a very nice car but how did it do at the worlds/Euro's????

I don't think there is such thing as a 'bad car' these days, and it all depends on what you want. I have said, since the X10 re-hit the tracks (as it realy is only a P8 or whatever variant was the last one with some shiny bits) has lots it's edge when it comes to performance. With the new cells we have, power is at an abundance, thats why, even the XX4 is competitive.

With that, you got to look at the bigger picture, if your not racing where there is a good LHS support, you got to have a 'race pack' with you. Now, you know with a Yoke, Losi etc, you can buy parts that will still be the same a year or two later, but you can't with the X10, that is the nature of the X10.

But as I say, for 'racing' they are ALL competent cars, just you got to pin your flag to a chassis camp and be done with it.

ANYHOOOOOOOOOOOOOWS.... back on topic now.

I think that if Tamiya are looking seriously into the off-road scene again, then they MUST be looking at 2wd as well, in the future.

Woha guys, calm down, its only a game! :p

Seriously, some opinions goin round on here, fair enough, but please remember guys everyone has a right to their opinion. Scott, your opinion is being challenged is part of expressing your opinion and challenging other peoples opinions.

By the way, this isn't a stupid forum, it's a clever one. ;)

ph0rum rox, tbh.

I must be in a posting mood today…

Having checked out the video of the car in action, damn that thing can jump… Evidently a well balanced thing. I still think it’s a shame that Tamiya aren’t doing more with the Dark Impact concept but oh well, what can you do.

Be interesting to see if it develops more of a unique look as its developed.


Mat.

Seems this post has a bit of an agro edge...

Surely everyones perception of the best car is going to be what works best for them..

Ive got an XRS purely cos i love the way its engineered and looks so GUCCI.....but thats not saying that when i run it ill be able to get on with it...

If the new Tamiya is a copy of the BX the Yoke cant be doing anything too wrong for them to be copying it..but obviously they think it can be improved on..

Again - just my opinion

:flower:


but yeah, cmon people back on topic.