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Toonz 09-11-2007 07:45 AM

more

http://tuyosi.ath.cx/nic/shizuoka/01.html

http://tuyosi.ath.cx/nic/ahiru2005a/01.html

Colinevan 13-11-2007 06:03 PM

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Did someone say egress...

Heres my old baby.

Colinevan 13-11-2007 06:08 PM

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A few more piccies

RogerM 13-11-2007 06:16 PM

Stop it with the Egrees pics ....... must not buy one .... must not buy one ... must not buy one

SHY 14-11-2007 08:51 AM

Sweet! Look at that rear suspension! How looooong can a suspension arm be? :D

SHY 15-11-2007 12:17 PM

Just finished building a NIB Progress 4WDS... it's just as hopeless as I remembered it to be... very creative in a way, but oh so many hopeless solutions! :D It will rest on the shelf for sure!

OTOH I'm putting together a HotShot now. I'm really excited to see what it can do with LiPo and some modern tires!

Some questions:
-it it possible to fit a one-way in the HotShot?
-ball diff in the rear in the HotShot?
-tip as to modifying the wheel axles as to fit modern rims (plus make wider)?
-where can I buy alu tubing to make side fenders/roll cages etc? (incl. bending tool)

I have a friend with a lathe and two good hands... I guess I will be paying him some visits... :D

Gayo 15-11-2007 12:51 PM

We need pics !

I am actually building an Optima...:)

sedge34 15-11-2007 08:51 PM

Oh MY God, I love boomerangs and that picture of the Lucky Strike version has got to be the ultimate version!

My runner is not quite up to that standard but very good fun!

How do I include photos? So I can put a picture on to see what everyone thinks.

Steve

SHY 16-11-2007 07:43 AM

NIB? Kinda nice to "pop the cherry" huh? :p

It smelled kinda funny when opening some of the bags I must say!

I'll post some pics when I have the bodies done... (I never do one at a time) I'm waiting for my B.A.R. Honda stickers... (that F1 site could make them actually!)

Btw. Gayo, I finally got 3x belt rollers into my X-5, now it works! :D

@Steve: Totally agree! You can for instance create an account at www.photobukcet.com - then you upload pics there for free. After that you copy+paste the "image location" into this forum. You can also use the "paperclip" here when you reply to upload pics here as well.

terry.sc 16-11-2007 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SHY (Post 70935)
Some questions:
-it it possible to fit a one-way in the HotShot?

There were several third party versions which replaced the propshaft when the Hotshot was released, finding them might be difficult these days.
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-ball diff in the rear in the HotShot?
Thorp made a ball diff for the Hotshot, if you find one expect to pay between $60 - $120 for it.
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-tip as to modifying the wheel axles as to fit modern rims (plus make wider)
Take off the triangular drives, replace them with hex drives and fit your choice of Tamiya, Kyosho and Academy wheels straight on.

Here's Tamiyas version using Keen Hawk wheelshttp://images.onesite.com/webmaster....rg/58391_3.jpg
http://http://images.onesite.com/web...rg/58391_3.jpg

SHY 16-11-2007 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by terry.sc (Post 71130)
Take off the triangular drives, replace them with hex drives and fit your choice of Tamiya, Kyosho and Academy wheels straight on.

Thx! Do you have the part. no for that?

Since it's mm it won't fit Losi or AE wheels of course... :(

elvo 16-11-2007 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SHY (Post 70935)
-where can I buy alu tubing to make side fenders/roll cages etc? (incl. bending tool)

1) go to any model hobby shop, buy tubing2) fill with fine white sand, plug ends3) find object of appropriate curvature (can, rim, tit, ..) 4) bend (probably no need to even heat it)

sedge34 17-11-2007 12:20 AM

Thanks Shy, will sort out a photo bucket account out then add some photos of my cars to the forum

Steve

terry.sc 17-11-2007 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SHY (Post 71133)
Thx! Do you have the part. no for that?

Since it's mm it won't fit Losi or AE wheels of course... :(

if you want to drill the wheels out to 5mm the rears might fit on without an adaptor, but I've never tried it to see if they would fit.

Most car and hop up manufacturers make 12mm hex drives, they are used on every current touring car and apart from Associated and Losi ones every hex drive will fit the 5mm Tamiya axles.

BORMAC 17-11-2007 11:59 PM

Ahhhh....yes! Who doesnt love the vintage buggies especially when there are classes for them to race in. Myself and a few others here in Australia have been getting behind the vintage bugguy scene and have managed to get a few race meetings together.Just recently I attended a 2 hour vintage buggy enduro.Not quite your standard enduro as there were 2 drivers per team which allowed for 1 or 2 cars per team.It was a little more like a 'tag team' event. It was an absolute hoot with cars being allowed needed to be from prior 1990 and the control motor being the Tamiya 'Sport Tuned' black sealed can motor.The event went off without a hitch and saw many of the old cars from the day turn out some healthy laps.I ran my Topcat while my team partner ran his JRX Pro.Both cars faired well with only human error getting in the way of things-he he. Antway here's some pics from the event-enjoy.
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ugar2KNOX2.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ghbeach060.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ghbeach059.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ghbeach058.jpg
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ghbeach063.jpg

SHY 26-11-2007 12:27 PM

@Bormac: nice pics mate! :D

Question guys: If I want to make the Hotshot wider, I would need to put on spacers on the outdrives, and then put on the hex drives. Any tips as to a suitable outdrive that is longer? Wild Willy 2 rear outdrive???

quincey 26-11-2007 09:13 PM

if you use the tamiya tg10 axle(or wild willy 2) it will allow you to use the wider hex.
we use this on TLT'S for crawling

Twister 29-11-2007 11:55 AM

Racing down under
 
Great pics Bormac, i,m inspired to do something similar here in sweden. Those Topcats are sweet..and damn hard to get:)

BORMAC 08-12-2007 01:41 PM

I have enough parts to build 2 more of those-he he. I may even end up selling one of them.

mr. ed 09-02-2008 06:26 PM

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hehe lots of familiar names here.

http://www93.sakura.ne.jp/~time-tunnel/07-12-2-1.html
the 2 cars on the right side of the bottom picture are mine.
and higher up some pics of the 2wd ultima; taken while I hadn't finished swapping the wheels yet :eh?:

http://www93.sakura.ne.jp/~time-tunnel/07-12-2-2.html
My 4wd optima/ultima in action for the last time.
(didn't seal the belt well enoguh and destroyed the inners of the gearbox a little after this pic was taken)


First thumb for the boomerang guys: here's a link to my japanese friends boomerang-hot shot-bigwig-custom:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/good-rockin~/hotshot2.html

Second thumb: this is me with another customated ultima at the KND racetrack in gifu, Japan:
http://www.oople.com/forums/attachme...1&d=1202580994

SHY 10-02-2008 08:40 PM

Wonderful stuff Mr. Ed! :thumbsup:

What is your friend doing with the gearbox?

mr. ed 11-02-2008 01:36 AM

Thanks, I love my ultima's; they 've been with me over 15 years in this hobby.
Not sure what Yaji was doing there: it's one of the older projects on his site.
Maybe he just needed a replacement: at that time the hotsgot was not re-re'd yet.

He fixed a couple things on his predator using parts from easier to find brands in Japan also

terry.sc 11-02-2008 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SHY (Post 92699)
What is your friend doing with the gearbox?

He's adapting the Manta Ray one way to fit in the Hotshot gearbox. The only one ways that were available were third party items, so hard to come by these days.

SHY 11-02-2008 07:35 AM

Really!!! So it's possible to fit a one-way into a Hotshot!!!???

One-way bearings you can buy in all kinds of shapes and sizes. What else do you need? The pulley itself? Any pics of this?

Btw. There's mentioned about the re-release hotshot that it has reduced bumpsteer (new front hubs)... can't be much om a reduction now can it? It's still A LOT! :lol:

terry.sc 11-02-2008 08:31 AM

To fit one you need the Manta Ray torque splitter set (you need the adapters and hardened steel shaft) and follow the pictures of what he did on the link above to modify the Hotshot gears to fit the one way.

At the time of the Hotshot release there was a one way mounted in the propshaft available from SRM Racing, good luck trying to find one of them.

The rerelease Hotshot has the same amount of bump steer as the original, the new uprights give improved ackerman geometry to give you more steering. To get rid of most of the bump steer you need to Parma Bump Steer Eliminator kit.

SHY 11-02-2008 09:03 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tamiya-Manta-Ray...QQcmdZViewItem
-is that all I need?

Aha! So it's the Ackerman... that explains it :D I just read somones post about that... but I just didn't make sense as the bums steer is at least as bad as it used to be :lol:

What does the bump steer eliminator kit do? Raisen the ball stud (a LOT)? Any pics of it?

bondy 11-02-2008 09:22 AM

One Way
 
I have my friends old PB Maxima which has some oneway drive shafts which are length adjustable :o and fit the hotshot. Gonna whip them off and give them a try ! Should be ready to race soon if a big "Tamiya model shop" who's order I put in 3 weeks ago actually send me something ? I love to support model shops in the UK but is there any wonder why people just buy from Hong Kong !! It's a sad state of affairs when we can get something quicker when its 1000's of miles away as apposed to 70 miles away :(

terry.sc 11-02-2008 10:29 PM

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Don't know, you'll have to check the link above and try and work it out yourself if he used any other gears, but that is the one way that is used.

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What does the bump steer eliminator kit do? Raisen the ball stud (a LOT)? Any pics of it?
It's just a pair of long ball joints to lower the steering linkages at the uprights.

SHY 11-02-2008 11:27 PM

Thx Terry! :thumbsup:

It may seem like the Manta Ray one-way kit comes with a 16T gear, but the std. one in the Hotshot is 18T. The 16T has the necessary hex shape inside. He actually uses a file and makes himself a hex shape inside the 18T gear? Agree? Must be kinda hard to get that accurate enough... :D Could be worth a try of course!

Welshy40 12-02-2008 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by terry.sc (Post 67681)
The Egress was a good competitive chassis, the biggest reason it wasn't as popular is that it cost £270, compared with £175 for the Mid and £199 for the Cat, both proven race winners. High price means less people buy them, so less people to develop it on the track. Jamie Booth did okay with it but didn't start getting the big results until he switched to the Manta Ray.

Jamie did win the '91 national championship with this http://www.tamiyaclub.com/article.asp?id=64


Jamies Astute did finish 7th in the '90 Euros with a car like this one http://www.tamiyaclub.com/article.asp?id=94

Dont forget he also won the euros with it, and boy did it go like stink. That manta ray was a work of art in Jamies hands. I enjoyed the nationals back then.

terry.sc 12-02-2008 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SHY (Post 93395)
It may seem like the Manta Ray one-way kit comes with a 16T gear, but the std. one in the Hotshot is 18T. The 16T has the necessary hex shape inside. He actually uses a file and makes himself a hex shape inside the 18T gear? Agree?

Yes, it looks like that, I just didn't bother counting the teeth before. You just have to take your time and measure carefully to make sure the hex is as centred as best you can.

mr. ed 12-02-2008 09:21 PM

I can try to ask Yaji some details on the next occasion. He's working thru most weekends though (poor guy) so I don't see him often.
I got his email too and could ask him to join in on the conversation here, but don't think he likes writing in english that much

SHY 13-02-2008 09:31 AM

That's great guys! I've ordered one so I'll give it a try! :thumbsup:

mr. ed 15-05-2008 07:37 PM

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Hey SHY, how's the modification going?
I met Yaji, and he said it was easy to do, but we got distracted before he could start to explain :blush:

I met him on a practise day and mine was the only vintage buggy at the track that day, but Yaji caught a couple nice pics of it.
I didn't get the original pics, so here 's the link:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/good-rockin~/2008gw.html

A whole different event: vintage meeting at TonTon Land
I hope the admins will excuse me for the links outwards:
My own pics are here:
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5333
And Mr. Tanaka's report on the timetunnel site:
http://www93.sakura.ne.jp/~time-tunnel/08-4-27-1.html
(make sure to click 'next' for the action pics)

And to close the post off: a picture of the almost completed update of my ghost-rider

SHY 16-05-2008 08:51 AM

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Hi Mr. Ed!

Sorry, I just haven't had any time for retro in a while... I race the "pro" 1:10 class so there's not much time left... But my two first runners for our race/meeting in june is coming along:
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Thanks so much for the links to all those fantastic looking vintage cars! :thumbsup:

Keep'em coming & have fun! :)

Your Ghost Rider looks great!!!

SHY 27-06-2008 05:39 AM

Ready for the #1 Vintage Meet in Norway!
 
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mr. ed 27-06-2008 11:20 AM

Looking goood! did you mange to get the one-way to work on the hotshot?

SHY 27-06-2008 11:34 AM

Thx! Sorry, didn't have time for that... got'em painted & ready last night :D

Too many projects & too little time...

mr. ed 27-06-2008 02:28 PM

no need for excuses ;) I hope you'll do better than me at my first yatabe race last month. I finished 3rd with my ghostrider. But there were only 3 racers in the vintage class :blush:
That swedish event bettter have a few more people show up :D

Here's a couple pictures of the ghostrider in its new appearance:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9904645...gs/ghostrider/
with a new longer wheelbase, wider front and rear and improved front geometry. Lots of changes under the hood also and longer bigger volume shocks all around.

Next yatabe race is the first sunday of august... and finnair got a 500 euro promotion for flying to Japan : Nagoya or Osaka. Who wants to join?

SHY 30-06-2008 11:28 AM

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It went fairly well as a 1st attempt in Norway (not Sweden, by heavens no!:D)! 5 cars saturday in 2WD and 5 cars sunday in 4WD. Plus an exhibition with voting and prizes.

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Some small videos in low resolution:
http://www.ymr.no/bilder/Lars&SHY/2N...tro/retro1.avi
http://www.ymr.no/bilder/Lars&SHY/2N...tro/retro2.avi

Btw. maybe an admin could move this tread to the vintage section?


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