Im staying brushed for now stan i cant afford new car and brushless. So will a 78 be ok on brushed?

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if you have the spare dosh, i'd probably get one anyway dude

Possible i may be able to twist mums arm it would save me having to get my motors skimmed.

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no, i meant the spur gear, not the whole brushless system :):):)

I may get both lol.

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if ur runing brushless ull need a 84 or 86 is best to get the small pinions on

Stick us down for an 84 spur if you have one or a 86 if you havent then carl. I wouldnt mind a brushless hopfully ill be able to persuade mum.

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Ive printed out the setup tips off the horizon site that richard taylor wrote liked here...

http://horizonhobby.co.uk/autoonline...eframeset.html

But if you look in the oversteer section it says run more rear tire how the hell do you run more rear tyre lol get a second pair and glue some extra bits on lol.

Its a good bit of help though should help me alot with both the CR and xx4

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hi
if you want set up help i found this website very useful this website
click on set up guide
hope it helps

Craig

Will i need outdrive savers for the CR or are they stronger than the xx4 outdrives????? Or do they not break on the cr?

Steel diff in the XXXcr as standard

Cool.

I think companys should put mor info on there website about these thing like what it has like what size spur what drive shafts etc its all good to know.

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Righty then im still waiting for my CR but ive got alot of my stuff ready ive got some tyres glue up on wheels a set of BB greens and a set of Shucmacher mini spikes, ive rewired my speedo with nice black wires so it looks ace lol and ive got a brand new 14x2 peak v2 to replace the one that broke on me so im just wondering what gearing do i need this 14 on think im getting a 86 tooth spur gear. So what gearing?????

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78/27

Oh im going to need to buy some more pinions by the looks of it what about a 12x2 and a 19x1 please brian :)

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12x2 - 25/78
19x1 - 31-32/78 thats what i ran a peak v2 19 turn on

Thanks brian :cool:

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May be useful...

how come your still waiting ash, there in stock at horizon!

Yea but it will be sent to doms house and dom wont be there to send it to me so it may be sitting in doms house or it could have been delivered there and there was knowone to collect it. Dont mind waiting really just wish i had it now i dont like running a car for the first time at a meeting i did that with my xx4 and i didnt finish hardly any runs.

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If running brushless YOU WILL NEED TO RUN THE 82 OR 86 I prefer the 82,but thats just my opion. As far brushed cant help. I live in america so cant really help you with setup but I run on large 1/8 track rutted and bumpy and loomy. As far as the diffs,I have never had a problem with mine I also run novak 4.5 and 5000mal lipo. I rebuild my diff about every 3 months or big race. My car also run for about 20 to 30 min on a pack. So diff gets heavily abused. You guy run alot different tracks then we run on but I use factory driver Jesse Robbers setup with a couple of little changes and works pretty good,cant say for high bite,we dont have any tracks around here that are.But if you like a link can send you a good one.

Ill be running old school brsuhed with 2wd dont relaly need the extra power as for setup ive had some help off someone with that its a little interesting though.

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This thread has started to worry me, am i geared totally wrong? I only ever race my XXXCR in the winter at Worksop and as many indoor regionals as i can (ie not many) I've been running 21/78 with an LRP 12dbl on GP37's. I thought it was running fine and my results are ok but you lot are confusing me!
So am i miles off?

To be honest if it works for you then thats all that matters.
Every brand of motor acts differently thus why gearing's differ so much from brand to brand.

When I gear a motor I gear it to get maximum performance out of it, without compromise.

IM just going to listen to brian he runs v2's an all but one of my motors are v2's so yea.

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Righty then hello all

Ive got h car and ive built it havent really looks at setup yet but mainly i want to know what gearing i should be running a 7.5 orion vortex on a 86 spur.

ive got soem nortec blue bling and im using the silky smooth nortec whities in th shocks.

The only problem i came across in the build was a small clicking in the gear box but that has gone now since ive put it all together and trying ot get the gear box in place. Other than that it was ace to build relaly enjoyed it.

Wouldlove to put some pictures up but dont have a camera.

Love this car even more than i thought i would almost love it more thanthe xx4 its so cute as it only seems small and the steering is so smooth and the diff and gear box i love it.:D:D:D:D

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Ash, I only ever ran a 6.5 in mine and ran it on 19x84. So i would suggest something like a 21/22 pinion on your 86. Others might have a better idea but i wouldn't imagine that would be far out.

just on the point of supporting your local hobby shop... i buy all my stuff online be it fleebay, UK shops or america etc... my LHS is awful for car parts and they are suppose to be supporting our club :(

Thanks kev.

All wired up now just need to stick a pack in an try it now going down ot oz to try it.

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One question meant to ask

On the pin that goes though the caster block and the steering knuckle are they meant to be longer than needed as there like 2mm longer than needed ????

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Don't worry, thats normal.

gdgd its all sorta setup a few things to do in the morning ive tried to get the high rear ball stud as high as possilbe but now it catches on the wheel when the wishbones are above level. So need to change that.

only on thing im worried about is the weight as ive been told to use lead putty in the bulkhead but havent got round to gettign any so ive put 10gramms below the servo horn as far worward as possilbe. Still not sure of the diff may have to ask someone about that.

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Wow really enjoyed it today really imprssed by the car so much more tunable than the b4 it was a touch slow not su why but ill look into that.

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i got a xxx cr and im just wondering about the vla adjustement. what does it really do? i understand that when its in the inward position it is stiffer and when its in the outer position it is softer. i read some set up sheets and people run a inward rear vla and an outer front one. so just wondering what running it outward in the front does.

It's a very weird thing. On high traction tracks, like carpet or astroturf, I always run long front and long rear. If you try short rear the car will be unstable (you need to adjust your spring/oil too when changing to short as it will make the suspension feel a lot stiffer!!!).

On low grip tracks especially when there is some loose stuff on it, I always run short front and short rear. It simply turns a lot better in these conditions, it feels like the car is on rails compared to long/long the car will slide over its 4 wheels and you need to start turning in a lot sooner to make the turn...

Next carpet race I will try long front and short rear for the last time, to see if I can get a good setup with it that has more steering than the long/long combo.