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ttboyy2k 01-10-2010 01:16 AM

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Here are the pics of my hottuna inspired X-60. I will test it out this weekend at a clay track where we use pink team losi taper pins and BK bars.



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hottuna 01-10-2010 07:10 AM

Looks great :thumbsup: Interesting to see how the truck react on this.

super__dan 01-10-2010 11:50 AM

Hi, that looks great, 1 thing, make sure you're lipo doesnt get hot off the motor, I'm no expert but I cannot imagine that's a good thing.

On my X60 over here I add weight to the truck but less to the front than my x6 and more under the motor, so considering the weight blance of a stock X60 is further back than stock X6, I've moved it slightly further back comparitivley to a weighted up X6. Not saying it won't work for you, interested to find out!

ttboyy2k 01-10-2010 03:44 PM

Well, I put the E-speed fan mount on the motor. So hopefully that will keep things a little cooler.

Fabs 01-10-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetblack750il (Post 418846)
Savox SH-1290MG 0.05/60deg 5.00Kg/cm at 6V, 0.06/60deg 4.00Kg/cm at 4.8V

I like fast servo , I always can slow it down when needed.

5Kg that's useless...

YoungChazz 02-10-2010 02:21 AM

Tuna, one of the great things about The Family is that various ones like to try out new things. We encourage it, and are proud that many Family suggestions have made it into production. So keep the ideas coming! And the race success! Yes, a flexy car can be easier to drive on some tracks -- that's why we have both the graphite and plastic chassies.

hottuna 08-10-2010 07:46 PM

A bit further...
I hate working with CF :mad: It makes a mess, and cost me lots of endmills, but the result is good :)

Rear end takes form

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...0/DSC_7377.jpg

Finish right out of the mill, quite good, although i used a dull endmill

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...0/DSC_7384.jpg

Slots for the battery "knobs", I don't know the word

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...0/DSC_7386.jpg

ikey ji 08-10-2010 09:38 PM

Hey hey, looking good mate!
It's on the way...:p

hottuna 08-10-2010 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikey ji (Post 421436)
Hey hey, looking good mate!
It's on the way...:p

Haha, thanks mate. Slow, but moving. Quality over quantity :thumbsup: Not every one will get the X7 ;)
Hope I will get some more progress this weekend, but schedule full... Out door training tomorrow, local paper will make a report. Indoor training on sunday...

hottuna 16-10-2010 10:17 PM

GT-2 front attached :) I didn't like how it's screwed into the chassis, the holes are right on the edges, it looks far to weak. I cut the front post, and added a CF plate between it on the upper side, and 2 more screws.

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...0/DSC_7387.jpg

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...0/DSC_7388.jpg

Layout with the servo, it fits good in the GT-2 front
http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...0/DSC_7393.jpg

ikey ji 18-10-2010 03:28 PM

Your prototype must be good!
Julien Formentin with a home made 2WD chassis (created by mr Beneventi) called the SK1, is just the 2010 French champion...;)
Have a look here...
http://storage.canalblog.com/57/89/327816/51927942.jpg
:thumbsup:

hottuna 18-10-2010 03:58 PM

Me like! Gives me fuel to finish mine ASAP.

hottuna 30-10-2010 02:14 PM

First spy picture :D
Note how the upper brace also work as a servo mount, i'm really pleased with this solution.

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...0101030195.jpg

wes j. 02-11-2010 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hottuna (Post 427834)
First spy picture :D
Note how the upper brace also work as a servo mount, i'm really pleased with this solution.

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...0101030195.jpg

It's looking good mate. You've inspired me to try and have ago at modifying an old chassis to take the pack down the middle. Wanted to ask you do you have to use a low profile servo for the converstion. Or can you use a standard size one. Cheers Wes :thumbsup:

hottuna 02-11-2010 09:10 PM

With a standard servo you will get an odd angle on the steering link, if you're not able to shim alot under the ballstuds. Other then that it would be no problem, it's all up to what body you use.
With the X6 body it won't fit. With the Jconcept Illuzion B44 i will use, i think it might work, not sure.

Worth to know from my test experience: I thought this would be a high grip car, but it accually has worked best outdoor on low grip dirt. Might be the layout of the battery, might be the quite soft chassis of the prototype.
The new X7 is really stiff! It wasn't ment to be, i think it's just to well build :lol:

I'm in the last phase now, building it together, test on sunday! :drool:

hottuna 02-11-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHY (Post 411124)
Say what you like, but the solution from Schuey as to the steering servo looks smart!
http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car_Sh...ering_1000.jpg

I dare to say the opposite, compare Schumacher's, and my solution to mount the servo ;)

SHY 03-11-2010 02:50 PM

Dont' get me wrong, your craftmanship is excellent! :wub

My point was that Schuey managed to do this without making the wheelbase longer (correct me if I'm wrong) with their solution. Your car is now longer than most cars, right? (at least you wrote that your prototype was)

And with that you have departed from "standard setup" and are kinda back to square one as to finding good setups. And probably there's a reason why the factories don't make their cars longer. There normally is a "sweet spot" for a given class as to chassis design.

So, great that the battery is now in the center, nobody would argue that this is ideal. Then again, LiPos are lighter than NIMH, and the ESC and receiver also does weigh some.

All in all I think a std. X-6 could be just as good or fast, if you play around with weight distribution using the E-Speed brass weight kit from Rudebitz. And you still have the short wheelbase.

Again, not meaning to criticize your build, the work is VERY impressive! Just trying to clarify my views as to the basic "layout" of the car. :D

So, unless you've managed to make your car with the same short wheelbase as the Cat... sorry, I then still think their solution is more clever! :p It'd be great if someone could do a wheelbase comparison of the current cars!

If OTOH it now turns out that a longer wheelbase is better, I'll bend my head in shame! :D

hottuna 03-11-2010 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHY (Post 429194)

So, unless you've managed to make your car with the same short wheelbase as the Cat... sorry

No, i didn't. The chassis is 3mm longer then the X6, with the wheelbase adjustment, it can be more or less the same.

JensK 03-11-2010 07:28 PM

Totally love your craftmanship on building this car. Hope the car will handle as good as it looks...

Have built a couple of prototype cars myself, so i know how much hard work you need to put in it..especially with a proffesional finish like this.

Keep up the good work and let us know how it handels

till 03-11-2010 10:55 PM

woooow, that´s an awsome car !!! I like it and I am jealous about the equipment that you have (espesially the milling mashine). I´m working with those mashines nearly every day, but im not allowed to do privat stuff =(

so keep on going what you do !!

one more thing is, i´d like to see tha car build, till now i only saw parts of it ^^

hottuna 04-11-2010 06:42 AM

Thank you guys, i'm glad you like it :)
I was building until late night yesterday, and it's ready :thumbsup:
Body is not cut out and painted, but i will make some photos after work.

SHY 04-11-2010 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hottuna (Post 429302)
No, i didn't. The chassis is 3mm longer then the X6, with the wheelbase adjustment, it can be more or less the same.

OK, but 3mm is very little. I think you wrote that your prototype was 9mm longer. So this shouldn't be an issue then. Good work!!!

And yes, your servo mounting is 100% new & very ingenious! :woot:

hottuna 04-11-2010 08:29 PM

It's to dark to take photos now, will make better ones later.

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...1/DSC_7413.jpg

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...1/DSC_7414.jpg

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...1/DSC_7416.jpg

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...1/DSC_7417.jpg

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...1/DSC_7420.jpg

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...1/DSC_7421.jpg

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...1/DSC_7423.jpg

http://www.hottuna.at/wp-content/upl...1/DSC_7426.jpg

wes j. 04-11-2010 09:50 PM

Awesome:drool::cool::wub:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumb sup::thumbsup::thumbsup:. Will you put some pics of it with the shell on when you get a chance.:)

ikey ji 05-11-2010 07:09 AM

Wowwww, looking really great!
It looks like a 4wd (except the narrow front wheels) , will you use a custom body or a 4WD body? I think bodies like B44 should fit?

Other question, what do you use for the servo wire? I mean the black cover...what is it?

Ok now we are looking forward to seeing your track feelings...;)

hottuna 05-11-2010 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikey ji (Post 429837)
Wowwww, looking really great!
It looks like a 4wd (except the narrow front wheels) , will you use a custom body or a 4WD body? I think bodies like B44 should fit?

Other question, what do you use for the servo wire? I mean the black cover...what is it?

Ok now we are looking forward to seeing your track feelings...;)

Thanks!
I will use a Jconcepts Illuzion B44 body. It fits quite good, not perfect in the rear.
The cable cover is some cheap stuff i found at my local hobby shop, like this http://www.ait.se/_upload/isolerslang-kabelstrumpa.jpg

hottuna 06-11-2010 09:57 PM

You just got to love DMS and Darren! Last night at midnight, i decided to order some things from them, but had a few questions. 30 min later he replied :o that makes 1:30 english time!
What other online shop responds that fast. Good job DMS! :thumbsup:

Darren Boyle 06-11-2010 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hottuna (Post 430324)
You just got to love DMS and Darren! Last night at midnight, i decided to order some things from them, but had a few questions. 30 min later he replied :o that makes 1:30 english time!
What other online shop responds that fast. Good job DMS! :thumbsup:

Hey Hans, it wasnt that late here, it was only 11:30pm (still early ;)) LOL, it would have been earlier but I had only just got in from tidying up and working late at the shop....

Thanks for the kind words :wub

hottuna 07-11-2010 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 430357)
Hey Hans, it wasnt that late here, it was only 11:30pm (still early ;)) LOL, it would have been earlier but I had only just got in from tidying up and working late at the shop....

Thanks for the kind words :wub

Haha, think I need to work on my time zone skills :blush: Anyway, it was rapid support way beyond opening time. Count on DMS stickers on my X7 car ;)

hottuna 07-11-2010 09:52 PM

First test today :) I love this car! So easy to drive, and really fast. I was smiling all day :D
I did some setup changes, and it got better and better. I will need more training to learn how it reacts on setups, but it seems to be brilliant "right out of the box"

hottuna 20-11-2010 04:09 PM

As the prototype is no more alive, and the X7 is ready, you can see the new photos here: http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57771


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