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notme 04-07-2010 08:26 PM

Ive found that the truck and 2wd are the most sensitive to throttle control/nose attitude relation and the 4wd to be the least.
If you could post a video of your or other cars in this problem double jump I could help further.

zagonielod 04-07-2010 08:58 PM

well....I was running in stock so I could't really film while racing :P ....wait...I have filmed one stock B qualifying, only that I don1t have the dvd. Have to get it somehow.

nicefrog 04-07-2010 09:06 PM

If you adjust the springs a bit and then hold the throttle a little while in the air they fly straight, the buggy seems to fly straight better than the truck but both are doable on any sensible sized jump

zagonielod 04-07-2010 09:11 PM

Could you explane a little the spring setup? and what about weights? how should I set up the weight distribution? I have seen somewhere several setups, but don't know where they were.

zagonielod 04-07-2010 09:24 PM

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OOOOOO YESSS!!!!! I have found pictures :D
I will update this message with the link and some pictures with comments

Here is a link to the album: http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...lo/fxracing_2/

We habe been actually 32 in total :)
And that is the double ramp which previously was closer, one right near the other. (that's the B44 I've tried after the race)

notme 05-07-2010 12:31 AM

Looks like your running in mud, well that explains a bit. Its hard to get enough speed up in tacky conditions as it looks in that pic. I dont know what advice to give you for those conditions.

zagonielod 06-07-2010 07:53 PM

One question. Who is here from the Netherlands or Belgium ?

Otherwise, I have cleaned today ma MadRat :) It was full of mud. I've washed even the tires :) Today I've run it for the first time with lipo, with this brushed system. I have to say again, I am really pleased with the stock Clash motor :) Does anyone to donate his? :D
BTW. What happens? Everybody is working? Too much quiet here :)

nicefrog 06-07-2010 09:00 PM

Everyone is watching the pretty cathedrals in Belgium on the Tour of France :) and the Soccer too when the cycling is over

zagonielod 07-07-2010 05:25 PM

BTW.... what do you say guys? How good are the stock MadRat tires? I am asking because I couldn't make a comparison(this is my first buggy and second ever RC car)

kedal 07-07-2010 06:27 PM

Stock tires are VERY good for bashing on a grippy ground. For the track, they're crap.

Well, I sometime use stock front tire when the track is very grippy, to have less streering but believe me, try good competition tire and your mad rat will thanks you !

nicefrog 07-07-2010 08:51 PM

I put the Jconcepts goosebumps on mine and the traction was twice as good on dirt as it was with the stock tyres, seriously saves you seconds a lap and twice as easy to drive. You gain more with good tyres than with any motor or battery or anything else you can think of. I didn't think front tyres would make much difference but once I had good back tyres the front didn't have enough turning anymore so I changed those also to green compound ribs and even though the looked identical to the stock tyres they made it heaps faster again

zagonielod 07-07-2010 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicefrog (Post 392293)
I put the Jconcepts goosebumps on mine and the traction was twice as good on dirt as it was with the stock tyres, seriously saves you seconds a lap and twice as easy to drive. You gain more with good tyres than with any motor or battery or anything else you can think of

And in the front?
What do you say guys? Should I buy these shocks?...
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47797

nicefrog 07-07-2010 08:55 PM

I added some more about the front :), worry about tyres first then shocks: )

zagonielod 07-07-2010 09:00 PM

I do have now rear tires. Would have to find some good front tires too....

ben44 07-07-2010 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zagonielod (Post 392295)
And in the front?
What do you say guys? Should I buy these shocks?...
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47797

Look to buy ansmann shocks (x pro version), or the big bore ansmann if you whant.
The are very good and price too.

After if you would like to have some set-up they will comme with the ansmann shocks

nicefrog 08-07-2010 07:53 AM

HA! my order from Hexcrew heads arrived, now I have 3 full sets of awesome quality bolts and nuts. No more bendy, stripable bolts for me :). I even got 5 diff screw bolts to get rid of that stupid philips screw that's been driving me insane, they didn't have a 2.5 mm nut tho :S but I can get them from other places, until then I'll put some locktite on the stock one and hope that stops it from spinning undone all the time. But overall it's a good day today since the major flaw with the cars will be cured :)

kedal 08-07-2010 03:26 PM

About tires, elod, take :
front :
losi 7202 red
or
proline 4 rib M3
or
Jconcept rounder green

rear :
big shot losi red
or
gosse bump/flip out jconcept green
or
proline bow tie/hole shot M3

Find those tires on a US online shop (A main Hobby, Losi part house or Tower Hobbie) and take the shocks you need (asso, Losi, Kyosho) Take some rim too
Make an order with all those item, not very expensive and you'll get all what you need.

notme 08-07-2010 06:05 PM

First run with my truck the other day......went about as lousy as the 2wd did. Snapped the t plate like nothing.......landed a little nose high off a big jump. Broke right inline with the screws. Im hoping it was one of the first batch of t plate(s) and my spares are the newer ones. It broke quite easily. Almost glad no one else was at the track as Id sure have been teased about it....the whole rear end spilled on the track like gutting a fish....lol.
So far its not handling as well as my old T4, it feels like its too short of wheelbase.
The rear and was handling the bumps real well, Im running 30wt with an extra 2 holes in the stock piston, holes are #57 or 1.09mm. Front is stock piston with 30wt as well.
Out of the box the 4wd is way better then both the 2wd and truck. Not sure why this is, they did more homework on the 4wd..? The 2wd and truck are good, just need more work to get things sorted, and with my kits they seem to have a few brittle parts.
I bought the rtr tires for the truck, they seem to work ok on our track, weird thing is the fronts make a strange skidding sound in the corners. They both fit the rims perfectly, unlike the losi's. Tires were coated with some unruly goo-gunk which needed an abrasive cleaner to remove.

end of ramblings...

positronic 09-07-2010 11:52 AM

zagonielod -> you can adjust the way the car jumps by adjusting the spring preload collar, tighten the front collar to make the nose go higher, tighten the back to make the back go higher. Loosening them has the opposite effect.

Have a play with it and see if that helps.

zagonielod 09-07-2010 11:58 AM

thanks! I'll try. the weather is good now, so I might go out and build a ramp or something, and start practicing

nicefrog 10-07-2010 03:38 AM

notme, my truck is absurd fast, it's like on rails straight out of the box but I have green compound jconcepts tyres on it. I only have a 13T brushless in it but its just as fast around the tight track as the 9T DF03 4wd and that has quite a few upgrades. I've dugg holes all over the track from the front end nose diving off jumps and nothings broken either :S how hard is the track you drive on? must be like concrete?

notme 10-07-2010 05:10 PM

Its hard but not concrete, its known to be a little tough on cars. Unfortunatly the truck is down for a while as it broke the tabs on the front of the transmission case as well. Im hoping this is all thats going to break... :/

nicefrog 10-07-2010 05:42 PM

I see, maybe I'll break some things during the summer months when the ground gets harder but so far the plastics are holding up well

notme 12-07-2010 01:00 AM

Well today is a day Id like to put behind me as far as racing goes. The tc02 encountered an issue Ive not had before, its intermittent, and I dont know if its gearbox or electronics. I only finished 1 race out of 4 but pulled fastest lap of the day.
The 4wd the car was blazing the field, but it would only run 2 minutes then shut down. I cannot find any information about sidewinder esc's having thermal shut down, anyone know? If thats not the problem then my next guess is esc/motor combo pulling too many amps and the voltage is spiking below 6v cutoff.
The 4wd handled great and could pass at will, i love this thing!
First broken part with it today too, I got out of shape badly and way overjumped the tripple, landed hard on the left front. I thought it destroyed the lower arm but no. The arm ripped the inner pin out of its place and broke both ends of the pin! The arm did not break, weirdest thing Ive seen in rc in 25 years :cry:

kaylon 12-07-2010 06:49 AM

Notme... are you using 2.4g control ?.. if so are both cars bound to the same controller...if so is the cut off issue similar to both cars ?....

I've seen cars do this 'shut off' thing when the driver is using 2.4 control system...it seams be a known issue with some makes and might be what's happening with you.

I run 2.4 myself but have not had issues, just thought I'd throw a suggestion out there :)

J

positronic 12-07-2010 08:20 AM

notme did you manage to get a temp gun on your 4wd, I have a sidewinder and only heard a rumour that it has a thermal cutoff at 225.

what battery are you running also

notme 12-07-2010 04:31 PM

2.4 yes. Ive run this sidewinder in my 2wd with out problems, except a little too much speed. So Id say its heat then. It doesnt seem overgeared, but I'll drop a couple teeth off the pinion and see. It was 35C outside too, probably didnt help!
Hows everyone else doing racing wise?

regards :/

nicefrog 12-07-2010 05:29 PM

I'm waiting for rcmart to get the 4wd in stock :) he only has one TC02 left in stock so hopefully when that goes he can make a new order to teacm c and get the 4wd also, I think (hope) he will do the price in the 150-180 usd range, based on the other cars ratio vs the tc prices it works out just over 150 but I'll wait and see what he can do :). Otherwise everything is broken with diff issues:S but I have b fast diffs on the way, then I'll be right. I'm looking to buy a plane in the next couple of weeks, it's something I've wanted to do since I was 4 years old. I figure 30+ years is long enough to wait and since I can get a cheap lipo ready to fly trainer these days, now is a good time :)

kedal 12-07-2010 08:27 PM

My order from TCModels is blocked to the french customs :(
I must wait for it, and certainly pay lot of taxes :(

Very disgusted !

nicefrog 13-07-2010 05:11 AM

Before Australia changed it's tax system we used to have to pay import tax on most things between 10 and 25?% on everything depending on what it was. But now (since 2000) we only need to pay tax if the item is valued over $1000 so now it's almost always cheaper and faster to receive if you buy from Hong Kong, it was perfect timing for online shopping and very lucky really

notme 13-07-2010 05:54 AM

TCmodels has 10 4wd's in stock. Rcmart may not get them for a while, or ever....? They also sell on ebay.

positronic 13-07-2010 09:52 AM

A TC02 is 159 usd on TCmodels and 99 USD at RCmart, Best to wait for RCmart to sell the TC04

edit: Rcmart said they can get them, just waiting for them to confirm a price

nicefrog 13-07-2010 04:26 PM

rcmart are going to get them, I like that TR04 pro with the normal stick pack that positronic posted in the other thread, might have to ask about that one

notme 13-07-2010 04:52 PM

Oh right, their prices kick butt. Im not sure but I think the rtr or stick pack version comes with plastic shocks and bushings instead of bearings.
If only rcmart would carry parts!

nicefrog 14-07-2010 04:47 AM

Yeah I'm not sure what the TR04 pro comes with so just to be sure I best get the TC04 and get a new battery

ConceptRacing 14-07-2010 03:30 PM

I currently have one in stock at the moment, willing to let it go for £152, let me know if your interested, cheers Eric

nicefrog 14-07-2010 07:58 PM

It doesn't work out well buying stuff from the UK with the exchange rate and hefty postage, That would put me in the price range of some other more desirable 4wd's but thanks for offering : )

kedal 14-07-2010 08:32 PM

Where do you live nicefrog ?

nicefrog 14-07-2010 09:38 PM

Total other side of the planet :) Australia, which happens to be very close to Hong Kong, so there's no point sending things around the world twice, that's just a big waste of fuel

kedal 18-07-2010 03:48 PM

I will have my order tomorrow : 46€ of customs taxes ! damned ! Its the last time I buy something outside of europe !

Nicefrog, you're lucky to live next to HK !


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