well champ have just told me that the shocks for the DI will be released end of june so i reckon thats when we'll see the slipper as well..

Hopefully it will have a better design than the one on my dynastorm.. it has like 4 little plates inside a special housing... works but is a pain to maintain and now squeels as the pads are a bit worn..

I am just wondering if the option of having the gear pressed off the layshaft and having a lashaft machined to accept a B4 unit is viable at the mo.

Hmm, was gonna do the Mini Frog next, but I wonder if I could handle building the Impact tomorrow and friday in time to race it at bury this weekend ?? I think that would be a good track to test the car on.. Dont know if I have the energy to get it done in time tho :rolleyes:

Its a tamiya lad it'll go together in a night.. then you got plenty of time to tinker with the setup and try to fit some decent shocks, and lets face it theres no point running the plastic ones. Last time i did that (10 year ago!!) they just blew up all the time.

I think its worth waiting to see what the slipper is like from tamiya, it would be nice to get it sooner but it'd be a load of hasstle i'd of tought to adapt the b4. The top force runs ok sans slipper so i'd imagine as long as you dont but anything to mad in it then the DI will be ok for a bit.

Well, there is room under the gear cover for a slipper assembly....

Plastic shocks are ok actualy, mine survived a while, just bong me on MSN when you come to build them!!! The only thing that you got to take time in building is the Diffs, otherwise it falls together. Only thing, stock settings for the steering links gives to much toe-out, plus the B4 turnbuckles fit, so if you got a spare set.....

Should be alright like you say.

The build thing is a lot more involved than just building it i'm afraid. :( I have mi laptop, scales and calipers at hand, not to mention 2 cameras, a tripod, etc etc.. I think with the ZX5 review, mi first, I built the car, big chunk at a time, then wrote from memory.. where the others have all been at the time, with the laptop next to me, so its a lot slower. The ZX5 was started, raced, and published in about 2 days.

Maybe I can try it the ZX5 way again and just take photos as Im building it.

What about recording notes audiowise as mp3 or whatever?
You could even make podcast out of it!

AS long as he dont sound like Chazz, sorry dude, you remind me of Kermit the frog... heehee

Cool, Ive found another place to chat about the DI :)

Some familiar names too;)

I really have to get round to painting mine, I've already run it quite a few times but only with a clear body:(

I've installed a few more hop-ups on mine now, so basically I think it's race ready (and ready to win ;) )

I am running DF02 alloy shocks, DF02 CVD's, some 3-racing turnbuckles, Gear adaptor and hinge pin braces (from Gary on the Tamiya Club).

It still amazes me that this is a 4wd, it looks so slim and small next to any other car:D

What are these hinge braces all about then ? Ive not actually built the car yet, I'll start it next week I think in time for the weekend. If the kit shocks are a bit pants I guess I'll put some associated b4 ones on just to test it out.

Hey Jimmy, great site:D I'm a regular visitor but never realised you had a forum.

One of the guys from the Tamiya Club forums (who luckily lives about 10 minutes from my house) has made an alloy gear adaptor plus a pair of carbon fibre hinge-pin braces.

The standard inboard hinge-pins are about 3 mm too long, so I assume Tamiya will offer up their own versions soon enough, but I grabbed these in the meantime.
The front one fits just like the brace on a B4, XXX etc, at the front of the arms, the rear one is supposed to go at the front of the rear arms - but I found that it restricted the motor movement too much so I did a bit of dremeling to the rear bumper and put the brace on the back of the rear arms :D

Tamiya cars are traditionally a little sloppy in this area so the braces both strengthen that area and remove some slop:)

do you have any links to the photos of the mods on your car ?
Any idea if the wheels are similar offset to the kyosho zx5 ?

Sounds like I need to make a bigger link to my forum then! :) Possibly a review sub section on the main page also rather than just bung everything in action photos

I have checked the off-set on older kyosho wheels and they have a greater off-set so would make the car to wide Jim. I am trying to find a set of Academy wheels to check the off-set against though.

GSstorms conversion is good, but I am thinking I would rather spend the money on a layshaft to fit a B4 slipper than a stock gear, running the car on grass is hammering the diffs at the mo.

Sorry, no pics of my car yet (though my camera is that crappy that you'd be hard pressed to see any detail :lol: )

As DCM said the Kyosho rims are too wide. The Academy rims might work better as when I put Kyosho rims on my son's Griffin it made that car wider too - so I'm assuming the Academy rims have a narrower offset.

The new rims are pretty cheap though, only US$4.50 pair.

poop!
ah well.. I was thinking of running the kyosho and tamiya back to back at Tiverton National maybe, but cant splash out on that many tyres so wanted to share wheels.

I'm sure you can beg some Kyosho cast offs Jimmy!! :D

Hey, I've finally got some pics of mine:rolleyes:

http://web.aanet.com.au/fir/bender/D...pact%20002.jpg

now that is a nice looking car:D ,i think i may invest in one when they finally become available here

we hade one racin today at Kiddy for the midwest regional think it finished in the C / D. It looked ok nothing sparkling but there is potential.

It was running some alloy shocks and carbon towers but was definatley lacking from steering mainly due to poor lock. Not exactly how the thoughts were going into solving the lock as i had to get my car ready but the car did look good in a near out of the box condition.

Interesting,

I finnished mine and just need to paint it. I was looking at the steering and I thought that lock to lock it look a little constricted. Overall was not very happy with the steering set up. The first time I assembled the top brace that goes over it, it actually caused it to bind a bit. I loosened and re-tightened the screws and that seemed to fix it.

I should paint it and get the electronics into it and have it up and running this week.

Then to other cars :D

The lock isn't brilliant, but the whole idea of the car is not to let it slow to a crawl. Remember, with the motor and cells down the centreline, there is more weight forward compared to most. I whizzed mine around a tight grass track yesterday and whilst it was still moving, produced LOTS of steering just if I crashed, turning around was difficult.

It may only need a little dremmeling of parts, also, the stock configuration gives a lot of toe-out which in fact makes the outer wheel in a turn have less lock to.

For those who are interested, I have emailed RW Racing in a hope that he could create a conversion layshaft to allow the use of a B4 slipper assembly, I think the easiest way would be to actualy have a new layshaft gear cut and then pinned to the layshft I think, if there is enough room.

IMO the reason why the lock is limited is because the MD1 screw which goes into the steering rack (C1) hits some plastic on the lower skid plate (B1) right in the middle where one of the screw comes thru from underneath the car.

This piece of plastic only needs trimming a few mm, and replace the 3x10 tapping screw with a smaller machine thread screw and the steering should have more movement.

I shall have a look at mine, whilst I am trying a few things... going to flip the front wishbones and run longer shock bottoms there, shorter on the rear and also look into making a little more room for the motor.

B4 turnbuckles will also go on this week and maybe a carbon front tower if I got time and go to Losi shocks.

Someone's already got some c/f tower out:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tamiya-Dark-I...QQcmdZViewItem

Note, this auction has nothig to do with me, just posting it to show you guys;)

parts to be fro dark impact
 

hiya chaps!

here are some parts to look forward to, from tamiya:

53924 - RC DF03 Heat Sink Bar
53925 - RC DF03 Slipper Set
53926 - RC DF03 Alum Oil Damper Set
53927 - RC DF03 Damper Spring Set
(from Tamiya's website)

I'm certain the slipper will be a great addition.
cheerio!
-alexander

Done the damper thing, can't see them being any different apart from pistons and shock bottoms, heatsink bar would be good, the slipper, I don't think I will bother with, sending the parts off to RW Racing (makers of all things gear wise) to have a layshaft made to accept a B4 slipper assembly as I realy don't want to have to go buy even more pinions to go with my 48dp, .6module and 64dp.

yes i agree....hope for aftermarket layshaft that will accept B4 spur gear and slipper pads........tamiya policy on pinon's module is very *** :-D


Bye!

To let you know, I have been in contact with RW in the UK, I am sending a DF03 layshaft and a B4 slipper assembly up to them this week for him to be able to make a layshaft. The downside is that because the original layshaft is a press fit, I am asking for a gear to be machined to go on to the new layshaft.

Wow really interesting...i'm still waiting for my DF-03 from japan....but if RW will realease this layshaft i'll preorder one sure.....
Bye!

Is this something RW will produce, or something for just yourself Steve ? and, how do you know all these people ?!? :o well connected or what!


p.s. I wouldnt mind one of those b4 adaptors, theres no better slipper.

hi guys....are this parts for the dark impack?
i can't understand japanese...maybe you recognize them...

http://www.pro-s-futaba.co.jp/fs_fs-7025b.jpg

http://www.pro-s-futaba.co.jp/fs_fs-7026b.jpg

http://www.pro-s-futaba.co.jp/fs_fs-7028b.jpg


oh..yes i've checked the manual...but are exact the same only made of alu....:-(

Jim, dealt with him in the early 90's in my first phase of Tamiya devotion hee hee... don't spend from 1989 till now and not get some good contacts I guess.

As for it being for general release, that would be up to Neil Stubbington from RW if he wished to produce it, but then I guess if he CNC's one, just as easy to make a few more.

capellone, where are those parts from?

deffinetly interested in a b4 slipper setup.. I to dont want to have to have a whole bunch of new pinions when i can use the ones for the xxt..

See if you can get him to release it steve... bet there would be a number of takers...

this parts are from www.pro-s-futaba.co.jp it is a very nice japanese shop ....i've buyed from them many times........
but i think that RC-Champ also have this parts in stock..........
Bye!

Guys, the DI section of my website is up... an ongoing development but it's ok to start with.

Link:
http://web.aanet.com.au/fir/dark/index.htm

Does anyone know what diameter the axles on the new Yokomo 4wd are?

I was thinking that if they are 5mm, then their front wheel hex is likely to fit the DI, allowing you to run Losi rims.

EDit: Link changed to my new Dark Impact site.

Bender, your more than welcome to run some pics of mine if you want.

found something here about a slipper, I dont know any japanese though so not sure whats goin on.. any ideas what car that slipper if from?

http://orange.ap.teacup.com/applet/macha/archive?b=40


craig
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racingdynastorm.blogspot.com

It is from a Kyosho Lazer ZX5 which someone has machined a shaft for by the looks of it.

ok found this http://www.k3.dion.ne.jp/~rccar21/umesandf03sp.htm
using the spurs off the DF02 to allow the use of 0.6 module pinions. Great if like me you have a load of pinions for the Topforce.

Really though the car needs a slipper which will take 48dp/64dp spurs. Any news on that B4 conversion steve?

Also out of interest what is the width of the car with zx5 rims on? i have some ballistic 5 spokes for kyosho which am guessing will have the same offset. Have them on the Top Force at the mo and it's just in legal BRCA width.

As for xx4 rims, seen that car on benders site and they are probably the yok adapters up front but what about on the back cause arent those wheels just pin drive? will they just fit straight on??