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josh_smaxx 24-08-2007 10:28 PM

I dont mind it being a copy, if it works as well as the B4 and cheaper then im all for it, gets more people into the hobby for cheaper :)

Col 25-08-2007 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lazerboy (Post 57995)
not trying to be mean to you, it's just these other two punks who keep following me around and criticizing me because i'm a new guy. And i really like the sb pro(and it's price:D)

You really need to get your facts straight!
if punk = Chris Doughty, sponsored by LRP, Team Associated, Atomic carbon, Proline, CML, MK Racing, etc then I would like to be a punk.
No-one is folowing you round and criticizing you because you're new (this is probably the most newbie friendly forum ever!)it's because you seem to have an incorrect opinion on every subject.

Back on topic - After years of 2WD dominance by AE and Losi, good competition is a welcome addition. The mistakes that Kyosho have made need to be learnt from though, if the car is to be a major seller in the UK

dave p hall 25-08-2007 01:25 PM

has a look of a rb5 to me:wtf:

Davey G 27-08-2007 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dave p hall (Post 58062)
has a look of a rb5 to me:wtf:

Thanks for stirring the pot. But even I would have to agree, it does look a bit like an RB5. :confused:

I will have the prototype vehicle hear in the office this week. Should I post pics??? Hmmmmmmmm :wtf:

jimmy 27-08-2007 12:57 PM

yes please! :)

There should be some guys running the Academy cars here over winter as helger seem to be pushing it now.

Davey G 27-08-2007 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 58183)
yes please! :)

There should be some guys running the Academy cars here over winter as helger seem to be pushing it now.

We have heard the same thing, thats a great thing for everyone!

DCM 27-08-2007 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey G (Post 58182)
Thanks for stirring the pot. But even I would have to agree, it does look a bit like an RB5. :confused:

I will have the prototype vehicle hear in the office this week. Should I post pics??? Hmmmmmmmm :wtf:

Get a slap if you dont!!!! heehee

Davey G 29-08-2007 05:52 PM

Well I had a nice little surprise walking into work this morning after a day of R&D at the local track yesterday, our 2 GV2 Pro buggy samples have arrived. Here are some of the unique features that were incorprated into this vehicle.

-The front bulkhead and shock tower are keyed. Keyed is not a good word for this, its more like the front bulkhead gets hugged by almost the entire front shock tower then gets screwed together. Very very sturdy.
- The front hingepin block is keyed into both the uppbulkhead and also the lower bulkhead and then all gets screwed together
- Front Hingepin block has replaceable teflon sleeves
- Rack or traditional style bellcrank is offered.

I am dabbling with the rear end as we speak, will post more news about this time tomorrow.

DCM 29-08-2007 06:32 PM

PICTURES man... PICTURES!!!!

Davey G 30-08-2007 06:33 PM

The rear of the car has some pretty unique features as well:

- Aluminum hingepin blocks have plastic balls that snap into them so that there is not excess force applied to the aluminum when changing antisquat/toe-in

- Steel outdrives with large diff rings that go to the very edge of the inside race of the diff gear. This makes for a longer lasting diff by dissapating heatfaster, and also increases surface area which means less wear on the diff balls.

-Gear cover that is virtally air tight, there is a lip around the entire black molded plastic diff cover that wraps around the aluminum motor plate. No more lost gear cover plugs on this car, the gear cover plug is actually tethered to the gear cover.

-Chunky CVA drives make the rear suspension bind free throughout suspension travel.

-Academy Rear hex rims are standard of course, but for those who want to use LOSI/AE/Proline rear rims, just remove the hex adaptor and use the pin drive instead. The width stays the same being that the ACADEMY rims offset is different then the others listed above.

-Multi Length Pivot (MLP) on the hub carrier and rear arm for long or short suspension geometry, along with vertically mounted ballstuds on the bulkhead are also featured on this new car.

More to come.....

Davey G 30-08-2007 06:34 PM

Sorry, Double post

OldTimer 30-08-2007 06:39 PM

Sounds good but were are the photos :D

jimmy 03-09-2007 07:00 PM

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/academygv201.jpg

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/academygv202.jpg

AndyM 03-09-2007 07:06 PM

looks a bit like an RB5:o

looks quite good tho!

woOdy 03-09-2007 07:08 PM

Is this going to be MY 2wd for next year Jim?

jimmy 03-09-2007 08:04 PM

Doesn't look half bad does it Stu.

RLGfx 03-09-2007 08:06 PM

I quite like the look of that, not sure about the bathtub rear wing though...:o

Welshy40 13-09-2007 07:14 PM

Nice, I like the design. I may be tempted

Davey G 14-09-2007 02:31 PM

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Here are the latest pics!

Davey G 14-09-2007 02:32 PM

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more...

Welshy40 15-09-2007 12:12 PM

Well what can I say but the design is outstanding. I like the wing mount design as when they do break it can be a pain to change on some cars and this design makes life simple, 5 seconds and a new one is installed. Very impressed.

I do think that there should be the option of 7 cells positions on the chassis like on the Associated B2/B3 as some drivers like over steer and some like understeer, where as this is set in only one place for the cells so am uncertain and may not buy one due to this one item, as I like the weight more forward.

super__dan 15-09-2007 02:17 PM

So add some lead on the servo?

I dislike the wingmount idea as I think it's likely to allow play in the mounts over time. I also don't like the shock top mounts that screw in without being clamped against the shock tower with a nut (like every other car) I'm sure a few whack here will start elongate the holes. Clamping with a nut disipates the force into all the tower plastic that the screw/nut contact against, this will only dissipate force into the plastic the way the screw is pushed (up or down).

Having apparently sounded negative above, I do actually think as a package it looks good and a big step forward on what's come before.

Preddy are you running one next year?

Welshy40 16-09-2007 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by super__dan (Post 60330)
So add some lead on the servo?

I dislike the wingmount idea as I think it's likely to allow play in the mounts over time. I also don't like the shock top mounts that screw in without being clamped against the shock tower with a nut (like every other car) I'm sure a few whack here will start elongate the holes. Clamping with a nut disipates the force into all the tower plastic that the screw/nut contact against, this will only dissipate force into the plastic the way the screw is pushed (up or down).

Having apparently sounded negative above, I do actually think as a package it looks good and a big step forward on what's come before.

Preddy are you running one next year?

I agree with you on the shock mounts, but I have always replaced the kit ones with what I like, so it isnt difficult to rectify it, and put a longer screw through.

I like the idea of the wing mount as the ones I use always tend to bend after time and with this solution its just a quick change and game on. But yes you are right and maybe there will be some play after a period of time, but never the less the idea is a good one and there is always room for improvement.

Batteries, I suppose I could always do what Brian Kinwald did when he was using 7 cells, and mount one ontop of the first two and use a foam insert at the back, then I will have to find a way to hold the cells in. Still I like the cars design.

tyreman 18-09-2007 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by super__dan (Post 60330)
So add some lead on the servo?

I dislike the wingmount idea as I think it's likely to allow play in the mounts over time. I also don't like the shock top mounts that screw in without being clamped against the shock tower with a nut (like every other car) I'm sure a few whack here will start elongate the holes. Clamping with a nut disipates the force into all the tower plastic that the screw/nut contact against, this will only dissipate force into the plastic the way the screw is pushed (up or down).

Having apparently sounded negative above, I do actually think as a package it looks good and a big step forward on what's come before.

Preddy are you running one next year?


I don't know, why what have you heard:confused: :confused: :wtf:

Big E 18-09-2007 07:07 PM

You know are you are Brain "Academy" Preddy;)

Oh sorry, said I wouldn't say didn't I :o

KevLee 18-09-2007 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Big E (Post 60777)
You know are you are Brain "Academy" Preddy;)

Brain Preddy!! thats funny.....:D

jim76 18-09-2007 08:04 PM

it's an RB5 with a different shell. have to wait and see if the production quality is as good.

ashleyb4 18-09-2007 08:27 PM

HAHA Brian Academy Preddy haha ive heard something but im not saying anything.

A

Big E 18-09-2007 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KevLee (Post 60779)
Brain Preddy!! thats funny.....:D


Whoops, really should read stuff back, we all know there is no brain involved :D

ashleyb4 18-09-2007 08:39 PM

HAHA i never noticed that good spot ellis soon everyone will have nick names Ellis Hawk Eye Stafford:D:D

A

super__dan 18-09-2007 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tyreman (Post 60769)
I don't know, why what have you heard:confused: :confused: :wtf:

I hear lots of things, from the hotel room I'm in I can hear the sound of trains in Derby station and later likely the sound of the prosers in the knocking shop I'm staying above (alledgedly).

KevLee 18-09-2007 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Big E (Post 60789)
Whoops, really should read stuff back, we all know there is no brain involved :D

haha! thats not very nice !

Brain, do you wish to defend yourself?

KevLee 18-09-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by super__dan (Post 60797)
I hear lots of things, from the hotel room I'm in I can hear the sound of trains in Derby station and later likely the sound of the prosers in the knocking shop I'm staying above (alledgedly).

House number and postcode please..........;)

super__dan 18-09-2007 09:06 PM

Sorry kev it's women prosers ;)

KevLee 18-09-2007 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by super__dan (Post 60802)
Sorry kev it's women prosers ;)

oh i see!

so its women downstairs, brokeback upstairs?


:D

super__dan 22-09-2007 03:31 PM

Unfortunatly in the end I saw no evidence of pro's anywhere :(

Chrislong 22-09-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrislong (Post 52603)
I wouldn't fret, the biggest difference is the amount of confidence we have in AE products working. With past qualities, Academy have a lot of prooving to do with anything new, i.e. the first SB & Griffin, I know these are now old cars but unfortunately bad reputations stick very easily.

Not intending the above to sound harsh, just my 2p worth.

After seeing pictures i'll reserve judgement til I see one on the track.

The issue I had with the Griffin transmission was that it would not stay tight. To be honest mine was built by Nick Isaacs, and not very well, I did it again myself but with threadlock and never ran it again. How is the new diff?

I agree with what Dan says on the shock tower screws. But I like the wingmounts, if any slop comes with age then surely a peice of lexan under the bodyclips will tighten it up.... but although its made to be fast to change if broke, how easily are they broken?

Tom3012 22-09-2007 09:35 PM

looks good!, jus not to keen on the shell... id buy one though, price and spares depending:D

Tom3012 22-09-2007 09:40 PM

oh, and bring on the purple hop ups!!!!

PaulRotheram 22-09-2007 09:46 PM

wash yer mouth out tom, purple *spit* :p


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