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super__dan 09-05-2007 11:49 AM

I too must admit it looks fantastic. Except for those horrible wheels.

Anyone else think it ironic now Ben Riley has stopped racing a pred, it's the only car that actually comes with orange wheels??? :D

Chequered Flag Racing 09-05-2007 12:01 PM

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:( I just don't see anything thats going to make it handle any better on a bumpy track than the current car. Bearing in mind there are no electrics in the car in the photo's there appears to be only a

very, very short shock stroke.
maybe it's been slammed for the photo shoot

Bathy 09-05-2007 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bathy (Post 38187)
checked the spec but can't see screws mentioned, are they Ti ones or nice silver steel/alloy ones?

Anyone know the answer re-screws, first thing I upgrade on a car are screws, can't stand the thought of cheap nasty ones rusting away, does this new X11 come with the nice shinny screws pictured?

pro4nut 09-05-2007 12:59 PM

If the screws are the same as the x10 and they look it in the pictures. They are titanium, the dull grey look to them points at them being Ti.
Nice to see the changes to the gear box tops, but i only broke one since the x10 was released. The adjustability does it for me.

jimmy 09-05-2007 01:14 PM

I like those logos on the wishbones as it's something I already did on my X10 - mine say Atomic Carbon tho! haha

http://www.oople.com/rc/desktops/predatorx10-1280.jpg

footey 09-05-2007 02:44 PM

i know it does jimmy and nice it looks thanks:) :)

Alfonzo 09-05-2007 03:17 PM

The screws will be decent, no worries. The X10 doesn't have one single nasty self tapping screw anywhere, the X11 will be the same. There won't be any issues with durability, the X10 is as strong as a tank - the X11 can only be stronger from what I see.

OldTimer 09-05-2007 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 38293)
I like those logos on the wishbones as it's something I already did on my X10 - mine say Atomic Carbon tho! haha

http://www.oople.com/rc/desktops/predatorx10-1280.jpg

Nothing wrong with that Jimmy ;)

Btw does the X11 come with a one way ?

Alfonzo 09-05-2007 05:59 PM

Pretty sure it does, but not on the prop shaft like the X10, I think it has one way bearings supporting the front diff in the front gearbox.

MattW 09-05-2007 06:22 PM

It seems maybe not. The prop doesn't look to have one, and i'm sure it lists front one way as optional.

mattym0310 09-05-2007 06:49 PM

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One way - Optional
An optional front one way unit has been tested by our Team Drivers, and is awesome.


the one-way should be optional as a guess, seen as tht is what the site says :D

the car looks so much nicer in blue!

andys 09-05-2007 07:03 PM

Very nice.

Very expensiive.

Very Blue.

It's pointless, but I want one.

Northy 09-05-2007 07:08 PM

I knew you would Andy! :D :D :D :D :D

G

andys 09-05-2007 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Northy (Post 38369)
I knew you would Andy! :D :D :D :D :D

G


I don't know how to put on those smily things onto posts properly, but that did make me laugh !
The reason it's pointless Graham is that my missus is expecting twins in September, so my racing days are numbered..... :-(

The saving grace is that we found out today, that they are both boys :-) so hopefully after this summers done, I might get to race again in 2014 !

Might as well wait for the Pred X18 I reckon... bugger.

Brodie 09-05-2007 07:19 PM

So, i met some of you at the Cactus & someone mentioned the X11. So does anyone know when & how much it'll cost here in the US? & who's distributing it? Cheers, Brodie.

Dan-0ward 09-05-2007 08:46 PM

it costs £400, but i dont no who is selling them!!

Alfonzo 09-05-2007 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 38377)
So, i met some of you at the Cactus & someone mentioned the X11. So does anyone know when & how much it'll cost here in the US? & who's distributing it? Cheers, Brodie.

With the weak dollar right now it'll cost a small fortune I fear. Shame, because it could do with some US exposure. Email xtreme rc and get the lowdown :cool:

Ps This is speculation on my behalf!

XTREME RC 10-05-2007 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan-0ward (Post 38425)
it costs £400, but i dont no who is selling them!!

You can buy them direct from www.ttechracing.com/X11
Or www.xtreme-rc.biz
They are not on the site to purchase as yet, but you can pre-order one via e-mail or mail order:)

Bathy 10-05-2007 08:08 AM

Nah easy to work out, be $399 aint that how it works... :D

dallasv8 10-05-2007 12:36 PM

$399 pound would make it nearly $1000 in australia :(

XTREME RC 10-05-2007 03:49 PM

THE PRICE GOING OUT TO COUNTRIES OUTSIDE THE E.U WILL BE MINUS THE V.A.T, IF THAT HELPS?:p

Nick Goodall 10-05-2007 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gramey (Post 38177)
:( I just don't see anything thats going to make it handle any better on a bumpy track than the current car. Bearing in mind there are no electrics in the car in the photo's there appears to be only a very, very short shock stroke. There are turnbuckles to adjust the camber which is nice but there does not appear to be much room for adjustment, still don't see any coloured springs either.
Looks cool but I'm still to be convinced.:yawn:

Someone technical needs to come on here and help the Pred out - as i've seen this sort of comment on a few sites now.

The suspension on the predator is soooo much more advanced then the other buggy's you'll see, it's fully progressive so what looks like a short stroke actually transforms into a completely different stroke through the wishbone. The design is very similar to the Pro-Link set-up they developed in Motorcross in the 80's where they had a tiny rear shock and a complicated swing arm that changed the way all motorcross bikes worked in that era.

I'm sure someone with a better technical understanding can explain it, but it's far more advanced then anyone seems to realise or give it credit for :cool:

MattW 10-05-2007 07:54 PM

Nick is absolutely right, it is a suspension system that very few people properly understand - and i don't considder myself to be in that group. I think i have a fair idea - but not a full understanding by a long shot!!!

One thing that i did learn, is that the first thing you should do - is forget everything that you think you've learned from other cars over the years. In the 12 or so months i've had my pred, there are multiple ocasions that i've made a change and it's given totally the oposite effect that i was expecting.

I'm not running my X10 at the minute, although i do plan to go back to it during the year when i get more time.

big_boss 10-05-2007 08:38 PM

Gramey Has an xrs (two if memory serves), so he should know about the suspension on the pred.... but it does take a bit of graft to get it to work on bumpy tracks (any car for that matter). It just takes a bit of getting used to driving it at "maximum attack" all of the time, once you get your head around that all is good.

dallasv8 26-05-2007 10:16 AM

is it me or has the ttech website gone

andreasH 26-05-2007 10:37 AM

Same here.
I hope they are working on the site to notify the realease of the X11 !

jimmy 26-05-2007 11:31 AM

I don't believe TTech exists any longer - so I would think a new site is on the way.

franki 26-05-2007 11:39 AM

its working for me :confused:

http://www.ttechracing.com/

andreasH 26-05-2007 01:06 PM

Yes works again. And there is nothing new :(


edit:
ohhh there is something new, the X11 is in the shop

KX11 - PREDATOR X11 4WD Off-Road - In Stock 30/06/2007 £340.00
http://www.ttechamerica.com/ttech/pr...1fd36f51defd1c

franki 26-05-2007 06:16 PM

Please note the price is plus vat

franki 26-05-2007 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 41355)
I don't believe TTech exists any longer - so I would think a new site is on the way.

I belive it does it just has a diffrent owner so i belive it still uses the TTech branding a bit like Aston Martin being sold (see how i compared the two there!!!)

PaulRotheram 26-05-2007 06:54 PM

i actually think it isnt under the ttech name anymore.. and under the name of 'extreme' or there about.

franki 26-05-2007 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulRotheram (Post 41422)
i actually think it isnt under the ttech name anymore.. and under the name of 'extreme' or there about.

I didnt know that i thought it had stayed the same oh well you live and learn;)

PaulRotheram 26-05-2007 07:14 PM

aye, yardy was talking about it at kiddy.. then broke his new extreme sweatshirt out on sunday.

rado-steve 26-05-2007 07:15 PM

Looks Very Nice! Everyone knows Blue Is Better....So it gets my Vote!

But....................£400!!!! Are they drunk! Sorry But you can get an 1/8th Scale Buggy for That! In Fact My 1st Car cost less thant that!

Stupid price!
























I'd still have one though :)

Brodie 28-05-2007 01:24 AM

$612:wtf::o:eh?:!!!!!!

I know i realy want one but damn!!!! I could get a BJ4WE for $475. I guess i could bitch about it, but then i compare what you lot(uk) are paying for rc stuff, holy sheep $hit!!! I used to live in the UK but i've forgoten what the cost of rc racing is out there. But out of all the other 4wd's out there i want this one more than any of them.

Also does anyone know who to contact to get them in to the local hobby shops? Seeing as i now i work in one, i know of a few "well off" people that race & would love this car.

franki 28-05-2007 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodie (Post 41598)
$612:wtf::o:eh?:!!!!!!

I know i realy want one but damn!!!! I could get a BJ4WE for $475. I guess i could bitch about it, but then i compare what you lot(uk) are paying for rc stuff, holy sheep $hit!!! I used to live in the UK but i've forgoten what the cost of rc racing is out there. But out of all the other 4wd's out there i want this one more than any of them.

Also does anyone know who to contact to get them in to the local hobby shops? Seeing as i now i work in one, i know of a few "well off" people that race & would love this car.

There you go ask for Lewis

http://www.xtreme-rc.biz/

Brodie 30-05-2007 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by franki (Post 41612)
There you go ask for Lewis

http://www.xtreme-rc.biz/

Thanks, but is there a distributor i can contact in the USA?

jimmy 30-05-2007 01:08 AM

I think that something they are looking into

MK999 30-05-2007 10:17 AM

A bellcrank system starts off on it's stroke as needing a larger amount of movement to move the shock a smaller amount, in the same way a lever does, and as such a smaller force can move the shock more easily, this is for the smaller bumps on a track, it absorbs them without influencing the chassis movement too much and keeps the wheels on the floor as much as possible, also acting as a 'softer' set up for grip. As it continues through the stroke the angles it works at now mean a larger movement at the wishbone means a larger movement at the damper, so if you land off a jump it doesn't just slap the chassis on the floor, also acting as a slightly harder setup for the faster corners to reduce roll and other undesired effects.

Progressive damping is something of a black art though from what I've read, on one track your car is the fastest thing out there, on another it's being lapped by the guy 1 place in front.

This also means you can get away with far less movement while retaining enough damping to survive the jumps and a soft enough setup for the smaller bumps for grip. However if you try and hit a fast bumpy corner with the progressive rate too hard at that point it ends in tears.


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