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jimmy 24-04-2007 09:24 PM

As a mark of respect toward HB themselves who have offered to help with a review of the car, can we not talk about importing this car to the UK since they have expressed concern in this area.
Sorry guys, so can you use PM for this stuff. :yawn:

joffacn 25-04-2007 04:34 AM

Yes OK -will do Jimmy, great site by the way.
My import is to mainland China through Hong Kong. :)
I am looking forward to your reviews of the RB5 and the D4.

Any one who has built the D4 could they comment on any of the tips in this blog - translated by google.
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8
or
http://hbbuggy-blog.com/

Any more tips in case I can not hold off on building until after the Oople review.

Jeff

PTRU 25-04-2007 08:12 AM

These are all very good tips, Do be careful on building the diffs do not over tighten them. I run Tony's between 1/8 and 1/4 turn back

The car its self is one of the best I have ever had the pleasure to build.

Good Luck with the car

We will be posting set ups on this site once we are all set up.

Phill T

joffacn 25-04-2007 08:39 AM

Please excuse any "noob" questions but this is my first buggy after several Helicopters.

It's amazing how 2mm bolts into plastic or alloy just don't take well to that final "nip up". I have stripped or broken "several".:(

Do you tighten the diff bolt down firm (compress spring all the way) then back off 1/8 to 1/4 turn?

The tips seems to say something about breaking the bolt or stripping the nut.

Look forward to seeing some more setup sheets.

Jeff

jimmy 25-04-2007 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joffacn (Post 35420)
Yes OK -will do Jimmy, great site by the way.
My import is to mainland China through Hong Kong. :)
I am looking forward to your reviews of the RB5 and the D4.

Any one who has built the D4 could they comment on any of the tips in this blog - translated by google.
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8
or
http://hbbuggy-blog.com/

Any more tips in case I can not hold off on building until after the Oople review.

Jeff


Hiya mate, I certainly didn't mean you when I mentioned that - I know you are outside the UK anyway. :)

PTRU 25-04-2007 09:30 AM

correct

Adam Skelding 25-04-2007 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joffacn (Post 35420)
Yes OK -will do Jimmy, great site by the way.
My import is to mainland China through Hong Kong. :)
I am looking forward to your reviews of the RB5 and the D4.

Any one who has built the D4 could they comment on any of the tips in this blog - translated by google.
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8
or
http://hbbuggy-blog.com/

Any more tips in case I can not hold off on building until after the Oople review.

Jeff

Hmmmm.. not checked that site for tips, but here's mine....

Front Shock Tower: Build with the screw head facing forward. See the pics of my car from tiverton national... It reduces the overhang of the screw giving the ground let to bite at (If and when) you crash ;)

Gear Lube: Use the DIP Orange cap stuff for lubing the gears.. The HB stuff is good, but for ultra free transmissions the DIP stuff is pimp.

Plastic: It's worth buying a 3mm tap for all the plastic bits.. I mounted mine in a old Hudy handle. Use a bit of the clear grease to ease cutting and the build goes much easier and less stress on your hands.

Other than that: Take your time!!!

:cool:

gramey 25-04-2007 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 35401)
As a mark of respect toward HB themselves who have offered to help with a review of the car, can we not talk about importing this car to the UK since they have expressed concern in this area.
Sorry guys, so can you use PM for this stuff. :yawn:

:) Jimmy, My intention is to buy from my LHS but when the rep called there yesterday he couldn't give a delivery date so I'm figuring if they're selling them elsewhere they must be available, so why no U.K. date?
I'm happy to take Adam's word for it and hang on, after all if it's close to the intended date I havn't got that long to wait now, and he's a damn sight nearer the horses mouth than I am!:)

Adam Skelding 26-04-2007 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gramey (Post 35784)
:) Jimmy, My intention is to buy from my LHS but when the rep called there yesterday he couldn't give a delivery date so I'm figuring if they're selling them elsewhere they must be available, so why no U.K. date?
I'm happy to take Adam's word for it and hang on, after all if it's close to the intended date I havn't got that long to wait now, and he's a damn sight nearer the horses mouth than I am!:)

Take my word for it..... The D4 will be released very very soon..... Support your LHS and you get much more back in return than from a faceless Internet Shop...

jimmy 26-04-2007 07:54 AM

What if your local model shop is faceless? :D

gramey 26-04-2007 08:55 AM

:) Like me the guy at my LHS is no Brad Pitt but faceless is a bit harsh!, Adam I only resort to shopping elsewhere if my LHS doesn't have/can't get what I need, as I said in view of your comment I shall wait!:)

gramey 27-04-2007 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Skelding (Post 35830)
Take my word for it..... The D4 will be released very very soon..... Support your LHS and you get much more back in return than from a faceless Internet Shop...

:) Adam, Good news when I went to my LHS today as apparently they've received an email saying the order forms are now being sent out. The guy at the shop reckons that they don't send out order forms until they're ready or very near to sending stuff out.
Will the optional parts be available at the same time and if so which ones do I need to get? I was going to order the toe in blocks, wheel hex adaptors, do I need the one way front drive shaft and if I order the alloy rear uprights do I need both sets?
Sorry to bother you with these questions but these are options which I havn't had on my Predator.
Thanks.:)

Adam Skelding 01-05-2007 07:35 AM

Sorry for the late reply.....

Option parts: Should be out same time as the kit. Mirage will have a plentyful supply of parts and option parts to keep you in the running.

Ones to get: This is a tricky one, I'll list the ones I think.. it's not a definitive list, just personal opinion in order of importance... please trim it to your budget.

1. One-Way Diff
2. Inboard toe-in bracket 2 degree.
3. Outboard blocks 0.5.
4. Outboard blocks 1.0.

Hope this helps....

grindog 01-05-2007 07:41 AM

Hi adam, what does this car weigh in at when race ready please?

thanks, john

mark christopher 01-05-2007 08:41 AM

would depend on electrics fitted

grindog 01-05-2007 09:12 AM

i know but adams car has the same electrics as mine so would give me a pretty good idea.

thanks for your help though :eh?:

Adam Skelding 01-05-2007 09:20 AM

Hmmm.
Not checked the mass of the car fully laden....
It was over 1700 at Tiverton. But that was with M3's and Losi Step pins, which are about as heavy as you get...

I'll check tonight and let you know.

gramey 01-05-2007 07:52 PM

:( Bugger, spoke to LHS today and they've order the cars but apparently delivery won't be until middle of the month, doh!:(

mark christopher 03-05-2007 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Skelding (Post 36605)
Sorry for the late reply.....

Option parts: Should be out same time as the kit. Mirage will have a plentyful supply of parts and option parts to keep you in the running.

Ones to get: This is a tricky one, I'll list the ones I think.. it's not a definitive list, just personal opinion in order of importance... please trim it to your budget.

1. One-Way Diff
2. Inboard toe-in bracket 2 degree.
3. Outboard blocks 0.5.
4. Outboard blocks 1.0.

Hope this helps....

adam what springs are you using?
Mark

Lew 17-06-2007 07:49 PM

Ive found one for 180quid. How cool am I ;) :cool:

gramey 17-06-2007 10:20 PM

:) If it's new and not coming from somewhere that may attract the attention of HM Customs & Excise snap it up. Minor problems with CVD pins aside (now hopefully sorted!) I'm well chuffed with mine.:)

GRIFF55 18-06-2007 11:14 AM

Go for it, i'm loving mine too.:)

BlackedOutCyclone 09-07-2007 06:51 AM

hi all, im new here.... im a hb nut.. i race a wce moore speed cyclone

and i want a d4 to race in MOD with a mamba max 5700.... on 6 cells, will the diffs and all handle the power? or will i shread the diffs?

and if i dont race (i race tc more then anything) can i lock up the center for wheelies, or will that just blow the diffs?

mark christopher 09-07-2007 08:08 AM

there is no centre diff?? if you want wheelies buy a hpi wheely king lol

BlackedOutCyclone 09-07-2007 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 48784)
there is no centre diff?? if you want wheelies buy a hpi wheely king lol




theres slipper:wtf: is what i mean


no i wont.....the wk is dumb, thats what my e revo is for:cool:

im going to race this guy for shure... what i meant by wheelies was, how far will this things drive drain go, before i start frying stuff, i want an idea of how tough it is.....if i do MOD, how long is parts going to last?

annie_himself 09-07-2007 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackedOutCyclone (Post 48912)
theres slipper:wtf: is what i mean


no i wont.....the wk is dumb, thats what my e revo is for:cool:

im going to race this guy for shure... what i meant by wheelies was, how far will this things drive drain go, before i start frying stuff, i want an idea of how tough it is.....if i do MOD, how long is parts going to last?

I would imagine the same as the Cycone since, TC's have more traction and acceleration compared to a buggy.

I doubt it will do wheelies unless you have a low geared 7700.

BlackedOutCyclone 10-07-2007 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by annie_himself (Post 48985)
I would imagine the same as the Cycone since, TC's have more traction and acceleration compared to a buggy.

I doubt it will do wheelies unless you have a low geared 7700.

the cyclone is belt drive tho..... so i cant shred a diff pinion


and it would.... these things have some whicked torque, and im running the 5700..... made a losi xxx s graphite wheelie... thats my friends car..... so idk


but it could be my full time racer now:( my track owner just cut off elec onroad, and is nitro only due to the track locals racing everywhere else, and now theres not enuff ppl there, im soo mad, and kinda sad at the same time cuz i loved that track

but off road, VERY fun:cool:

any set up sheats for it? or a starting point? and how much for it in usd?

mark christopher 10-07-2007 08:24 AM

try looking in the hot bodies/cyclone thread!!
are you in the usa or uk?

BlackedOutCyclone 10-07-2007 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 49011)
try looking in the hot bodies/cyclone thread!!
are you in the usa or uk?

why would i look in the cyclone thread for the cyclone d4's st up sheat and prices?


and usa

mark christopher 10-07-2007 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackedOutCyclone (Post 49173)
why would i look in the cyclone thread for the cyclone d4's st up sheat and prices?


and usa

believe it or not your in the hotbodies thread and there are topics in there re set ups etc

BlackedOutCyclone 12-07-2007 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 49177)
believe it or not your in the hotbodies thread and there are topics in there re set ups etc


ok then.......................


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