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matt 25-04-2019 04:14 PM

Whoa whoa whoa, let's all chill out with my post. Not once did I call this a bad move by them I said it was disappointing. I find it disappointing that this car has been about for a while now and that the team drivers got them a few days after announcement but yet the parts were not ready for general release. The car doesn't use that many new bits and most are available as spare parts apart from (last night at least) gear box top shocks front. Another disappointing aspect was that most found this out through a model shop email rather than schumacher themselves. I was really hoping mine would be for the regional next week as my KC has a bent chassis and didn't want to order one.

mark christopher 25-04-2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 998535)
Whoa whoa whoa, let's all chill out with my post. Not once did I call this a bad move by them I said it was disappointing. I find it disappointing that this car has been about for a while now and that the team drivers got them a few days after announcement but yet the parts were not ready for general release. The car doesn't use that many new bits and most are available as spare parts apart from (last night at least) gear box top shocks front. Another disappointing aspect was that most found this out through a model shop email rather than schumacher themselves. I was really hoping mine would be for the regional next week as my KC has a bent chassis and didn't want to order one.

as i have said your going on rumours not fact by your own admission!


I have an excellent solution for you...... buy a LD one as its will fit your kc! im sure you know its in stock.

NeilRalph77 25-04-2019 06:27 PM

Whether new parts or current parts I imagine Schumacher expect to sell hundreds if not more of these cars I'd be very surprised if they keep that amount of stock in spares, so I'm sure what ever part their having issues with couldn't just be replaced in the hundreds off the shelf.

matt 25-04-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 998537)
as i have said your going on rumours not fact by your own admission!


I have an excellent solution for you...... buy a LD one as its will fit your kc! im sure you know its in stock.

It's a fact the team drivers got them, 2 of them had them at our 1st reg. It's a fact the car has been around for a while as Yardy said on a podcast they have been testing for some time with it and was at the mkgp. It's a fact the car doesn't use that many new parts. It's a fact that that MB let people know before Schumacher did.
Yes I know it fits and yes have seen it in stock but will not be buying it.

mark christopher 25-04-2019 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 998540)
It's a fact the team drivers got them, 2 of them had them at our 1st reg. It's a fact the car has been around for a while as Yardy said on a podcast they have been testing for some time with it and was at the mkgp. It's a fact the car doesn't use that many new parts. It's a fact that that MB let people know before Schumacher did.
Yes I know it fits and yes have seen it in stock but will not be buying it.

so what part are you claiming they are waiting for and is in stock?

thats the part your post states to be a rumour, and i quoted your post stating that!

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...1&postcount=38

i also dont see the issue with there and i quote you "not many new parts" the kc is a very good car, its been refined, not redesigned!

matt 25-04-2019 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 998542)
so what part are you claiming they are waiting for and is in stock?

thats the part your post states to be a rumour, and i quoted your post stating that!

http://www.oople.com/forums/showpost...1&postcount=38

I said the rumour was to around the diff but also said those parts were in stock. I did not say it was the diff.The part I think they are having issues with is the gearbox top shocks front as that is the part that as of yesterday is not in stock.

tyreman 25-04-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 998543)
I said the rumour was to around the diff but also said those parts were in stock. I did not say it was the diff.The part I think they are having issues with is the gearbox top shocks front as that is the part that as of yesterday is not in stock.

They're not having an issue with the gearbox tops they are just out of stock, Schumachers website is not live stock levels, and is around 24hrs behind.
I had these arrive on Thursday.
https://i.imgur.com/oGAdpBi.jpg?2

matt 25-04-2019 11:09 PM

Right so that's my idea blown apart. Although that does mean they are happy to sell a spare they were not happy to put in the kit:confused: as when I looked yesterday that was the only piece not listed.

david85williams 25-04-2019 11:41 PM

I wouldn't be so desperate to get hold of the new laydown. I've seen a few guys running the car and were really struggling. Some even resulted in putting a KC back end on the car. Seems there's some serious setup work to be done.

Anyway its disappointing to wait longer. Schumacher's customer service has always been excellent.

mark christopher 26-04-2019 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 998554)
Right so that's my idea blown apart. Although that does mean they are happy to sell a spare they were not happy to put in the kit:confused: as when I looked yesterday that was the only piece not listed.

Again more guess work..

Just let the guys get the part up to quality and release it.

Ross 26-04-2019 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 998561)
Again more guess work..

Just let the guys get the part up to quality and release it.


That’s the best comment in the whole thread about the issue :thumbsup:

Al3xis007 26-04-2019 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 998521)
That's fine but this car is a parts bin special with very little in the way of new parts and the hold up is with one of the older parts is not a great start.

Right so you’ll want a kit with a part that’s not up to spec, you won’t know what that part is and it WILL fail. You’ll then blame schumacher...... chill dude

Al3xis007 26-04-2019 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by david85williams (Post 998555)
I wouldn't be so desperate to get hold of the new laydown. I've seen a few guys running the car and were really struggling. Some even resulted in putting a KC back end on the car. Seems there's some serious setup work to be done.

Anyway its disappointing to wait longer. Schumacher's customer service has always been excellent.

Everyone is different, I love my KC too, it’s a weapon..but, a few set up changes (a bit more aggressive than the kit setup) and its definitely faster and easier to drive

matt 29-04-2019 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Al3xis007 (Post 998572)
Right so you’ll want a kit with a part that’s not up to spec, you won’t know what that part is and it WILL fail. You’ll then blame schumacher...... chill dude

Again I didn't say that I said it was disappointing especially after all the delays with the xls.

Kevg57 29-04-2019 10:30 AM

I think its a good thing that they pulled the date back, people would shout more if there was a bad part in the kit,

Run my KC in L1 rear end spec last week at motor pos 4 and it felt a lot more driveable after a few set up tweaks on high grip EOS type carpet, not sure I would gain hugely by doing to the LD

Adam F 29-04-2019 12:04 PM

Very few people know how much of a nightmare it is developing a new product.

If just one minor component is missing or wrong, the whole kit has to be held... Just because parts have come come in to the correct condition previously, doesn't mean every batch will be the same...

QC exists to catch exactly this type of issue, so I'd say Schumacher have acted responsibly in being honest about this... yes its a shame, but I'd imagine they are doing everything they can behind the scenes to get these kits out the door...

After all the last thing they want is excess unsalable stock sitting in their warehouse!!

mark christopher 01-05-2019 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevg57 (Post 998624)
I think its a good thing that they pulled the date back, people would shout more if there was a bad part in the kit,

Run my KC in L1 rear end spec last week at motor pos 4 and it felt a lot more driveable after a few set up tweaks on high grip EOS type carpet, not sure I would gain hugely by doing to the LD

thats what i thought, just done oople bury and qualified in the c final 3 legs, with kc ran 10th and 6th, swapped to a previously undriven ld and got a 2nd, just felt so easy to drive consistently.

cornishboy176 03-05-2019 09:02 PM

Any update on release date yet?

On the roof 06-05-2019 01:17 AM

Hopefully not long now 🤞

Mash Potato 09-05-2019 08:13 AM

Last I heard is the 20th as the release date. Anyone know more, is this still the case?

Spils77 09-05-2019 12:05 PM

Yes, the last email i got from the model shop was the 20th May :thumbsup:

Ross 09-05-2019 04:07 PM

I was told last night by Schumacher that it will probably be the tail end of next week.

Adam F 10-05-2019 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 998911)
I was told last night by Schumacher that it will probably be the tail end of next week.

Nice... :)

Mash Potato 14-05-2019 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 998911)
I was told last night by Schumacher that it will probably be the tail end of next week.

Any updates, is this still likely?

Ross 14-05-2019 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mash Potato (Post 999011)
Any updates, is this still likely?

Your probably better off calling Schumacher and asking.

Mash Potato 15-05-2019 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 999014)
Your probably better off calling Schumacher and asking.

As of yesterday I was told the new part(s) are with Schumacher. So they need to be checked out. Assuming they pass Q.C then they'll then start packing kits, so fingers crossed the wait is nearly over.

Wolvie 15-05-2019 08:30 AM

Yep, claws crossed!:lol:

stuey 15-05-2019 01:31 PM

The cakes have been served at Schumacher according to their FB page.

mark christopher 15-05-2019 06:31 PM

If your on the fence, can highly recommend one

stormyyyy 15-05-2019 07:31 PM

mb confirmed will be in shop tomorrow

matt 15-05-2019 07:51 PM

There are a few things I'm not to sure with this kit at the mo. Don't like the screws they give you for the pistons and the fact you have to modify the rear wishbones if you want to run the diff in its lowest position.

mark christopher 15-05-2019 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 999052)
There are a few things I'm not to sure with this kit at the mo. Don't like the screws they give you for the pistons and the fact you have to modify the rear wishbones if you want to run the diff in its lowest position.

Far more secure and less chance of losing a piston off a rod, I use a med loctite (blue) and let it go off and arrowmax multi tool to hold the shaft, fitted them to my l1 when they came out and have been fine, also used by other manutacures.
Only need to remove a very small amount of material, defo no loss in strength.

matt 15-05-2019 09:04 PM

I'm fine with the screw on piston it's the counter sunk screw with no recess in the piston for it. But it's the fact you have to remove it to use low diffs.

mark christopher 15-05-2019 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 999060)
I'm fine with the screw on piston it's the counter sunk screw with no recess in the piston for it. But it's the fact you have to remove it to use low diffs.

No need for a recess in the piston mine got a good bite to secure them., as said it's a small amount, I'd rather do that and have arms that fit both cars, maybe schumacher will do the mod on further production arms,

Aldi have a good dremel style tool on offer soon, 16 quid 3 year warranty :thumbsup:

Have you built yours yet, or are you just anti schumacher?

matt 15-05-2019 09:17 PM

Ive got a dremel sitting in my toolbox at work it's just bits like this shouldn't need doing on a top line car. Didn't have to do it on the kc and that used arms from a older car to. Didn't have to do it on the 6.1 when running the b64 arms.

daz75 15-05-2019 09:29 PM

Dremmeling things to get them to fit is a bit crap

mark christopher 15-05-2019 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by daz75 (Post 999063)
Dremmeling things to get them to fit is a bit crap

They fit fine...... just as said a very small amount of material needs removing in low diff position only. It's only where the drive shaft pin may rub.

matt 15-05-2019 09:55 PM

1 degree of anti squat and low diff and they do rub, no maybe about it.

matt 15-05-2019 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 999061)

Have you built yours yet, or are you just anti schumacher?

Far from anti Schumacher, I've had most 2wd from the club10 up to the kc, missed out the sv line as wasn't racing at the time after having our 1st child. But I'm also not going to be a fanboy of them and blindly look over faults they have.

mark christopher 15-05-2019 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by matt (Post 999065)
1 degree of anti squat and low diff and they do rub, no maybe about it.

Well I'm off to prep mine and improve my lap times, I'll leave you to find some thing else wrong :thumbsup:


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