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kartstuffer 06-02-2017 08:49 AM

Did you price converting from the kf2 as I am in the same boat as you.

Martinst 06-02-2017 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kartstuffer (Post 966586)
Did you price converting from the kf2 as I am in the same boat as you.

I just assumed buying new kc's and selling the kf2's. They must be worth 150 each with all hopup options.

With regards to upgrading the kf2, it would appear the front end is the same so just new wishbones to change. The chassis is not far off the kf2 carbon chassis setup. If you install the top carbon brace, you can remove the side strips and stiffeners. ( although, personally I like these for securing the body and keeping the dirt out ). The main difference is the gearbox, so it will be interesting to see how effective this is. Other benefits are already resolved on the kf2 is you have added the alloy rear bulkhead.

It's a tricky one really, on overview I kind of feel there isn't a great deal of change, but the proof is in the running. Roll on end of Feb.

madmulc 22-02-2017 03:08 PM

any news on the release date of the KC?

david85williams 22-02-2017 03:31 PM

Nothing yet but I believe they are expected by the end of the week.

bish 22-02-2017 03:55 PM

I hope so! I keep seeing guys getting their KDs and i'm high on anticipation for the KC-Hopefully the KD conversion will roll up at the same time.

jph 22-02-2017 04:59 PM

There was one being run at my local club last Sunday (1066 Racing) and it looked really nice. It also TQ'd and won the A-final so it's looking good for the new car.


The driver isn't a regular at the club so I don't know any background but I'm assuming he is sponsored by Schumacher, hence he has a KC before us mere mortals!

david85williams 23-02-2017 03:46 PM

Looks like the KC's won't be available until mid next week now...

mark christopher 23-02-2017 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by david85williams (Post 968017)
Looks like the KC's won't be available until mid next week now...

you sure?:confused:

mark christopher 23-02-2017 05:45 PM

just had ups tracking tell me mine is on its way!:thumbsup:

Hairy Spider 23-02-2017 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 968026)
just had ups tracking tell me mine is on its way!:thumbsup:

Ditto :thumbsup:

bish 23-02-2017 11:50 PM

What?! KC shipping?! YESSSSS! <Checks email> <checks again> <checks again>

DarkHawk 24-02-2017 12:09 AM

Waiting for my LHS to get there stock,been told due next week

david85williams 24-02-2017 06:32 AM

I ordered mine from MB models... where did you guys buy from?

Ross 24-02-2017 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by david85williams (Post 968054)
I ordered mine from MB models... where did you guys buy from?

I would say they are both sponsored drivers maybe ?

mark christopher 24-02-2017 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross (Post 968055)
I would say they are both sponsored drivers maybe ?

Direct from Schumacher and in my hands now

Hairy Spider 24-02-2017 02:41 PM

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From what I understand, the first batch was sent out to the team drivers yesterday with customer deliveries to follow early next week.

fidspeed 24-02-2017 04:54 PM

Got mine well my boys ,:thumbsup::thumbsup:

mark christopher 24-02-2017 07:16 PM

ball diff were in stock too ;-)
:thumbsup:

Dkfream 25-02-2017 02:28 AM

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All built, nice bit of kit

Hairy Spider 26-02-2017 05:01 PM

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Guess it's time to find the airbrush ;)

chrispattinson 27-02-2017 10:48 AM

Ive had my KC for 3 days now, and have done a little write up in my blog, talking about the car, the build, and my first race meeting (including video). Feel free to have a read:

http://ne-rc.blogspot.de/2017/02/sch...lub-racer.html

mes 27-02-2017 06:25 PM

Very nice write-up, Chris! If I was to buy another 2WD buggy, the KC would be my choice right now. I really like what I have seen so far!

AdrianH78 27-02-2017 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispattinson (Post 968257)
Ive had my KC for 3 days now, and have done a little write up in my blog, talking about the car, the build, and my first race meeting (including video). Feel free to have a read:

http://ne-rc.blogspot.de/2017/02/sch...lub-racer.html

Top write up Chris, thank you:thumbsup:

Thomas B 01-03-2017 06:11 PM

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Ready for carpet test on sunday.

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david85williams 02-03-2017 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas B (Post 968446)
Ready for carpet test on sunday.

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So you went for kit setup for carpet? I'm trying to decide what configuration to build mine to start with fr Astro.

chrispattinson 02-03-2017 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas B (Post 968446)
Ready for carpet test on sunday.

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I think all carpet setups have the shocks on the front of the rear wishbone, that's where I ran mine and it was phenomenal. Just an observation.

Barry Williams 02-03-2017 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chrispattinson (Post 968488)
I think all carpet setups have the shocks on the front of the rear wishbone, that's where I ran mine and it was phenomenal. Just an observation.

On Sunday at MB Natalie ran with the rear shocks on the back all day. Initially the car was a bit sharp for her so we altered it through the day & by round 4 & in her final the car was really good. The biggest difference was to go to long wheelbase (on Greg's advice) which worked really well despite it being a relatively tight, hairpin filled track.

The time for her win in the C final would have won the B final & placed her 4th in the A final (just in front of you Chris :p) I know races don't always work out like that but a good example of the car working on carpet with shockers on the rear. She had a great run with a car that, for her, was easy to drive quickly.
I appreciate that others (like you Chris) would have been ultimately quicker without mistakes/errors & your fastest laps will have been quicker.

I think that the shocks on the front of the rear wishbones will ultimately give a quicker car on the surface if you are good enough to hang on to it or get a set up that suits you, but the rear shock option may be easier to drive consistently for some drivers. it certainly was in our case.
Also I thought that Lee Freeman & Chris Clarke changed to run shocks on the back? (but I may be wrong)

Either way I think the car works well. It's good for drivers to have the option to try both & see what suits them

Just thought I would share my thoughts/experience on our first run.

Very impressed with the car first time out & after watching Greg at Worksop the car seems to work well on both surfaces

Looking forward to running it outdoors through the summer

david85williams 02-03-2017 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry Williams (Post 968494)
On Sunday at MB Natalie ran with the rear shocks on the back all day. Initially the car was a bit sharp for her so we altered it through the day & by round 4 & in her final the car was really good. The biggest difference was to go to long wheelbase (on Greg's advice) which worked really well despite it being a relatively tight, hairpin filled track.

The time for her win in the C final would have won the B final & placed her 4th in the A final (just in front of you Chris :p) I know races don't always work out like that but a good example of the car working on carpet with shockers on the rear. She had a great run with a car that, for her, was easy to drive quickly.
I appreciate that others (like you Chris) would have been ultimately quicker without mistakes/errors & your fastest laps will have been quicker.

I think that the shocks on the front of the rear wishbones will ultimately give a quicker car on the surface if you are good enough to hang on to it or get a set up that suits you, but the rear shock option may be easier to drive consistently for some drivers. it certainly was in our case.
Also I thought that Lee Freeman & Chris Clarke changed to run shocks on the back? (but I may be wrong)

Either way I think the car works well. It's good for drivers to have the option to try both & see what suits them

Just thought I would share my thoughts/experience on our first run.

Very impressed with the car first time out & after watching Greg at Worksop the car seems to work well on both surfaces

Looking forward to running it outdoors through the summer

Thanks for sharing :thumbsup:. What motor position did you run?

Barry Williams 02-03-2017 10:46 AM

Position 1, (furthest forward) car was a bit twitchy/sharp at first, but long wheelbase cured that

chrispattinson 02-03-2017 11:59 AM

Fair enough Barry. I was just pointing out , that if he'd tried to copy the carpet setup from Orlowski, or the carpet setup in the manual, both specified shocks on the front - incase it was a build mistake. I understand different people will want setups to suit them as a driver, and Nat was flying at the end of the day.

Barry Williams 02-03-2017 12:32 PM

I think both will work, just wanted to share our experience & show the option of the rear mounting position possibly working for some drivers.
I'm would imagine Greg will be starting with shocks on the front at Silverstone next week as I guess that will suit his driving style.
Its good to have both options to try

chris24jt 02-03-2017 01:01 PM

what do people think for worksop setup? position 3/4? shocks on the rear?
not seen any team setups around yet but the cars seemed to be very quick.

Thomas B 02-03-2017 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispattinson (Post 968488)
I think all carpet setups have the shocks on the front of the rear wishbone, that's where I ran mine and it was phenomenal. Just an observation.

I start with this setup and change during the day. To move the shocks is a quick fix and i will try it. Just a test and find a good base setup for next weekend's race. With KF2 I drove with the shocks in front and with short wishbone in front on carpet and thought the car was really nice to drive. Hope this car is better.

chrisimp 04-03-2017 07:25 AM

Just built mine ready for Southport Turf Wars this weekend. Position 2 and front mount shocks same oil front to rear kit everything else.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...pszdiukl8z.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...psu65jpne1.jpg

david85williams 04-03-2017 12:48 PM

Has anyone else notice the instruction manual doesn't suggest greasing the side gears?

chrisimp 04-03-2017 01:04 PM

Yep but didn't at the time of building just naturally did it lol.

david85williams 05-03-2017 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisimp (Post 968664)
Yep but didn't at the time of building just naturally did it lol.

I put grease in mine too but thought it must have been a mistake in the instructions.

Thomas B 05-03-2017 06:29 PM

what a fantastic car. KF2 was good but this is clearly better. Shocks in front was great. Schumacher has done a good job. Now I'll just have get better too.

DarkHawk 05-03-2017 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas B (Post 968762)
what a fantastic car. KF2 was good but this is clearly better. Shocks in front was great. Schumacher has done a good job. Now I'll just have get better too.

What position are you running the motor

Thomas B 05-03-2017 07:57 PM

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