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Chrislong 24-09-2008 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 162594)
Doesn't this exclude certain saddle packs that have more than one cell in parallel inside each 'saddle'? I'd have to check up on this but doesn't the Trakpower 4800 saddle have 3 cells in parallel in each saddle, then both saddles in series - giving 6 cells but still 7.4v?

Nope, the Trakpower 4800 saddle is 2cells.

Each Lipo cell is 3.2v. Its only the high volt cells that go over 2 cells. 7.4v is always 2 cell.

trekkerkk 24-09-2008 11:27 AM

my thoughts are still the same,
they should fit the cars without modifacation,
if some manufacturers can do it then why cant the rest,
corally being one there are more coming,

trekkker

Chris Doughty 24-09-2008 11:35 AM

my LRP 7.4v cells have 4 individual cells in them, 2 sets in parallel and those 2 sets in series 2s2p = 7.4v

Cockerill 24-09-2008 11:42 AM

I think Rich is right with this, it does seems to read as 2 individual cells, which does rule out many packs. Maybe the proposal should be modified to read (If it can be modified :confused:):

“Cars will be driven by a maximum of six rechargeable Nimh cells or two rechargeable Lithium Polymer cells in series, in stick or saddle pack configuration..."

Cockerill 24-09-2008 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkerkk (Post 162601)
my thoughts are still the same,
they should fit the cars without modifacation,
if some manufacturers can do it then why cant the rest,
corally being one there are more coming,

trekkker

There are already several packs that fit without issue in the same space as 6x NiMh cells, which is unlike the '07 Spec NiMh cells as they were too large for cell slots in most cars :lol:

Wasn't it this time last year when it looked as tho we would all be running Orion cells as they were the only ones within the '08 Specs, yet we ended up having more to choose from than previous years.

Maybe the manufacturers need rules to build products to, so once the rules are set we'll see more products :thumbsup:

trekkerkk 24-09-2008 11:50 AM

i agree with everything youve said tom,
manufacturers need to build to a set dimension:thumbsup:

trekkker

Chris Doughty 24-09-2008 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cockerill (Post 162609)
I think Rich is right with this, it does seems to read as 2 individual cells, which does rule out many packs. Maybe the proposal should be modified to read (If it can be modified :confused:):

“Cars will be driven by a maximum of six rechargeable Nimh cells or two rechargeable Lithium Polymer cells in series, in stick or saddle pack configuration..."

+1 - much better!

MattW 24-09-2008 12:04 PM

Amendments can be tabled on the day, so that shoudln't be an issue.

I think all rules voted in from that point are effective 1st April.

Richard Lowe 24-09-2008 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrislong (Post 162599)
Each Lipo cell is 3.2v.

Where does the other volt in the pack come from? :p

Reevsey 24-09-2008 12:10 PM

Tom appreciate the rule reads 2009 1st jan 2009 but i think the reason why the end of season finals has always been run to the years before list is any new rules/additions to motor & battery lists do not go live until April and the end of season finals always take place in March.

I know this is mad but i think you would need another rule to suggest any rules changes are effective from 1st jan, as currently i think there are only two time periods where the lists are updated, April and one later in the year but i could be wrong

OR

Move the end of season finals to the first weekend in April

Si

Chrislong 24-09-2008 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 162621)
Where does the other volt in the pack come from? :p

Lemons

Lee 24-09-2008 12:15 PM

Thats like asking where does the magic smoke come from rich :lol:

Cockerill 24-09-2008 12:25 PM

I'm sure the BRCA will manage to implement the rule correctly. I for one would like to see lipo allowed at the indoor finals as it will be all I have.

This is of course assuming that Lipo will be passed, although judging by other threads on here there are not many against Lipo, and a lot for it, but then again not every is on Oople (just the majority :thumbsup:)

RcRob 24-09-2008 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 162627)
Thats like asking where does the magic smoke come from rich :lol:

try mtroniks they always seem to have lots of it spare :thumbsup:

Lee 24-09-2008 12:27 PM

What is the current price limit set by the brca for lipo?

sorry i cant be bothered to look :thumbdown:

Cockerill 24-09-2008 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 162632)
What is the current price limit set by the brca for lipo?

sorry i cant be bothered to look :thumbdown:

2. The maximum retail price for the year starting 1st.Jan. 2008 is £80.00.

There also on a rolling homologation list (as per. motors).

Body Paint 24-09-2008 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 162591)
But the case is there for a reason to protct the lipo.

A

I'm not saying the case is a bad thing, just that the case is not actually part of the battery.

Lee 24-09-2008 02:40 PM

If we have cases why do we need lipo sacks for charging?


Can we propose safety specs and bullet proof vests for those charging IB`s:lol:

stegger 24-09-2008 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 162685)
If we have cases why do we need lipo sacks for charging?


Can we propose safety specs and bullet proof vests for those charging IB`s:lol:

Nah i use a welders mask:woot:

DaveG28 24-09-2008 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 162685)
If we have cases why do we need lipo sacks for charging?


Can we propose safety specs and bullet proof vests for those charging IB`s:lol:

Cases protect from impact, but not from cell problems causing fires. Hence the sacks as well for charging!

For IB's I'd use bullet proof glass!

Chrislong 24-09-2008 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 162704)
For IB's I'd use bullet proof glass!

For IB's.... Im trying to not use them now, no more IB roulette for me. :lol: (atleast for the foreseeable future)

Body Paint 24-09-2008 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrislong (Post 162705)
For IB's.... Im trying to not use them now, no more IB roulette for me. :lol: (atleast for the foreseeable future)

I think it's called Chineese Roulette :lol::lol:

MattW 24-09-2008 04:20 PM

The problem regarding the indoor finals, is that they are the finals for series that are run during the winter, so should be run to the same rules as those series - i.e your indoor regionals. I think it would be close on impossible to implement changes at the AGM for the indoor regionals - IMHO.

mark christopher 24-09-2008 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 162594)
Doesn't this exclude certain saddle packs that have more than one cell in parallel inside each 'saddle'? I'd have to check up on this but doesn't the Trakpower 4800 saddle have 3 cells in parallel in each saddle, then both saddles in series - giving 6 cells but still 7.4v?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrislong (Post 162599)
Nope, the Trakpower 4800 saddle is 2cells.

Each Lipo cell is 3.2v. Its only the high volt cells that go over 2 cells. 7.4v is always 2 cell.

yup the 4800 have 3 cells in each bank in parallel (3.4v) the 2 banks wired in serries give 7.4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cockerill (Post 162609)
I think Rich is right with this, it does seems to read as 2 individual cells, which does rule out many packs. Maybe the proposal should be modified to read (If it can be modified :confused:):

“Cars will be driven by a maximum of six rechargeable Nimh cells or two rechargeable Lithium Polymer cells in series, in stick or saddle pack configuration..."

spot on amend it on the day!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net (Post 162615)
+1 - much better!


_sleigh_ 08-10-2008 09:15 AM

With the BRCA AGM only about 2 weeks away.

Who's definately coming??

Which section meeting will you be attending??

In terms of "1/10th Off-Road", do you know of any clubs that will be applying for a National '09 meeting that haven't done so yet?? (Deadline is normally the AGM date)

Lee 08-10-2008 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _sleigh_ (Post 166712)
In terms of "1/10th Off-Road", do you know of any clubs that will be applying for a National '09 meeting that haven't done so yet?? (Deadline is normally the AGM date)

Wow, i cant believe that the 2009 nats are just round the corner, entry forms will be out in the next couple of months :o

Chrislong 08-10-2008 09:46 AM

I'll definately be there with Claire, and hopefully travelling with Latham and Chris Cocker... lets get a list formed, there should be no excuse for missing this (except for Mia's christening).

But if you want Lipo, I stress you really need to make time for this AGM if this is the first and only one you'll ever attend. The proposal needs votes, without votes it doesn;t have a chance, and if that happens despite the amount of support for Lipo in here then it'd be a crying shame.

It's likely to be a 9am start (check BRCA.org). The address is Thistly Hough High School, Newcastle Lane, Penkhull, STOKE ON TRENT, ST4 5JJ. The address is on the BRCA website homepage top right corner and an Agenda will no doubt appear there also in due course. :thumbsup:

stegger 08-10-2008 09:49 AM

Where,date and what time ? 10th off road for me:thumbsup: How are the proposals passed is it by vote, show of hands etc ? Have never been to an AGM before:) AGM VIRGIN ME:blush:

stegger 08-10-2008 09:50 AM

:thumbsup: chris :woot::woot:

Lee 08-10-2008 09:54 AM

What are the chances of getting to the agm and casting a vote and then getting to york for a christening :confused:

_sleigh_ 08-10-2008 09:59 AM

Errrrr. No :p

stegger 08-10-2008 09:59 AM

depends on the time of the christening and the vote. 120 miles, 2hours 12min according to the aa ;) sure you could do it quicker then that though:o

Lee 08-10-2008 10:00 AM

I didnt know what time it usually finished :confused:

Lee 08-10-2008 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stegger (Post 166727)
depends on the time of the christening and the vote. 120 miles, 2hours 12min according to the aa ;) sure you could do it quicker then that though:o


EASY !!!!!!!


In the toy as well :thumbsup:

bigred5765 08-10-2008 10:16 AM

we will defo be there as Chris said were all going in my milf wagon, i believe tom(multi euro a finalist)cockril is coming with us also,what time do we need to be at your Chris,

O Chris can you pm me your postcode and door number


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