Good point. I won't be at this years regionals purely due to Lipo not being allowed.

Fully understand that they're not BRCA approved = can't use them. Thats why I am going to the AGM.

BUT how about a none-regional heat for those who want to run Lipo and a secondary championship? As long as the venue is okay with our new,safer than Nimhs, Lipo technology. :lol:

Forgive me for butting in on a NE region topic, but one thing to note is that new cells (NiCAD, NiMh, LiPo etc...) are normally only homoligated for use from "the next" April 1st. So should the BRCA EB & 1/10th Off-Road sections both vote positively to introduce LiPo support, then they will only be legal at sanctioned from April 1st '09 (unless an execption is made by the committees. Unlikely, but possible)

Chris's suggestion of a none regional/points scoring class would be your best option until clarification comes from the BRCA AGM.

(please don't take this as i being anti-LiPo, as I'm definately not. Just a little info on how the rule book is worded)

your welcome, X factory brother :thumbsup:

I agree Phil and i think this has been said in other threads. I personally doubt they will be allowed for the indoor finals either because there is no need for them, its not like we have cells going off like we did this time last year, so the new list of cells would not be brought in on safety grounds like they were this year :)

It might be a bit stupid but do we really need to follow the BRCA rules or can't we just have regionals that don't follow the BRCA rules to the letter, even if we don't call them regionals?

I mean, it's not like indoors regionals mean anything anyway since they count for nothing in terms of formulas etc... So we could call it north east series and allow hard cased lipos, maybe follow the EP list for TC since there is one...

Are people seriously not gonna race at regionals just because they don't allow lipo's??

What has everyone done with the cells they ran all this last year? :eh?::eh?::confused::confused:

2 packs of cells will do you for a meeting easy.... when lipo's are legal run them, until then run what you had previously.

would be funny if more people race in the lipo none regional, lol
i know some have got rid of all there cells and gone over to lipo only cars, well ish

Agreed Bradders it would be very daft for people to do that, like you say 2 packs are ample.

Fabs, Its a BRCA event, they count towards the BRCA end of season finals.

I dont know why people are trying to belittle the regionals rules are rules and we know that we cant use cells that are not on the list before april, i really don't see the problem?

I don't either. Seems the few are trying to bully in the use of lipo. Why go fully lipo in the knowledge it isn't approved :confused:

Anyway, the April rule doesn't have to apply does it. Take the case of the Losi brushless systems, these were added to the approved list mid-year.

Im sure people arent trying to belittle the indoor Regionals but in my situation, i have bought a lipo car and have got rid of last years cells so if they dont allow Lipos then i cant do them.

You made that decision even though Lipo is not Brca approved? What happens if BRCA don't approve? Will peeps stop doing outdoor regionals and nationals as well? Crazy situation.

Medders: cell lists and motor lists are different , cells have to be supplied by a certain date to be tested etc, where as motors can be sent in for homologation at any time.;)

Motors can be homologated at any point during the year, whereas cells only get added at April 1st.

Good point.

I think that people have been very hasty to buy lipo cars in hope they get approved at the agm.

I think the odds of lipo being introduced are 50/50 at best this year

Im a gambling man Lee. At least if i cant do Regionals then i cant be put in a crap heat and then finish with a crap result. Method in my madness!

There will be a NE Indoor Series.

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Sense prevails ;)

Well thats the way it was always going to happen, you cant run a brca series to any other set of rules

So what would you rather have? No regionals and subsequently no end of season finals, or a series that follows brca rules but allows Lipos and just doesn't count towards the finals which we won't be able to attend anyway?

Glad to hear that tbh. :thumbsup:

I'm happy to have the regional series to the current BRCA rules, this is what WE voted for this time last year. I really cant see peoples problem with the current rules.

LIPO are not currently brca legal :confused:

Why wouldn't you be able to attend them? :confused:

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It is not what WE voted for last year, it is how it is, and how it always will be.

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I meant we voted in this years rules/proposals ;)

Fair enough :woot:

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Why is it with this techology change, people have ignored the rules? It never happened with anything else I can think of.

I think I'll run a really wide car, twice as wide as the calibration box, so wide that no one else can get past it on the track, and then, if I'm not allowed to run it in regionals, I'll complain about it, and ask for a ule change.

Madness!

lol that was in the case where there wasn't gonna be a regional series, hadn't seen your post when i wrote that. It wouldn't have made a difference if there had been no regionals or a not regional series in both cases we wouldn't have been able to qualify for the finals that's what i meant.

oop's:blush:me getting batterie's mixed up,anyhow i'll be doing regional's finger's crossed:p ps,how many people are needed for voting in lipo's at agm:confused:

At least with LIPO you get some sort of warning with smoke and stuff... NIMH cells just explode and are more or less a nail bomb when they go bang am i wrong?

they do hiss and vent a bit, well mine did anyway, then its nail bomb time :thumbsup:

:lol: see!

Terrorists wont have explosives OR LiPo's they will have NIMH cells.. - FACT. LOL

Granted NIMH explode but ave never seen nail bomb characteristics. Ave only ever seen the top or botom blow off with a loud bang. Would like to see a set go up big style if anyones got any footage... Lipo's are the devils energy....

For god sake, just buy some lipo then you can see for yourself how good they are. Hope you got Worksop entry sorted cos theres 200 entries at the moment! Mostly lipo drivers!:p

its silly really.. a Battary that can and has an option to be charged in a safe area Lipo sack is deemed unsafe or thera abouts.

Yet! A hissing, exploding, no warning, shapnal firing, inconvinient, time wasting faff around can be deemed safe...

I know what id back at the AGM.

Go to the AGM then Garry.:thumbsup:

Im sure many people, like you, are really backing LiPo's, but the regionals are run to this years BRCA rules, as they are BRCA sanctioned events so LiPo's cannot be used.

Rules are rules..:D

Who at our club has gone better with Lipos??? :confused:

Good doesnt have to mean they make you quicker. Surely everything from charging and having more time to chat etc should count towards a cell or piece of equipment being good?? I went quicker than anybody when i first had my lipo in my BJ4. The cat has struggled a bit but im sure it will get there. I like the fact that you dont have to spend a load on cells and can get away with 2 packs for the club. Credit crunch you know Neil.

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are the dates etched in stone yet?

why does it have to make u go better, I'm sure its just the fact its easier cheaper less hassle

have tried the magical lipos dispite being one of the biggest doubters as dont see why i should have to modify a car to fit them but having run them and dispite having had a problem, they are definatly an improvment, not in terms of power but in terms of consistency, i have personally found that my car has the same power level through the whole run rather than slowly tailing off from start to finish making it more consistent and easier for me to get a good run in. i know they arnt brca legal but feel the brca have not been quick enough letting them into regional events as a tester. thankfully a local club to me has been running them from the start and found them to be reliable to all levels of racer hence me now trying them and enjoying the benifits that they offer...... nice to only need a pack or 2 (as a extravagance) for racing rather than the 5-6 packs i normally need for a days racing