Please for the love of GOD trim that wing down or u will just understeer off the end of the straight!!!

wing
 

a bit like yors last month????????????????

Pred X11
 

I just Read That Tekin is going to be distrbuting the Predator X11 or a Similiar version of it in the States has anyone else heard this or have info info??I'e been looking to buy a 4wd prob a B44 but now it may be on hold if this news is true.

LOL-Guys, just to say the full kits are not so far away, before Xmas fingers crossed so in time for the next Worksop round.

With Tebo now on Board, I think the progress for 2WD & 4WD will get stronger and stronger in 2009! Watch this space.....

Cheers

Karl

Love the car Steve,
you are less mad than i suspected.
Let us know how she handles :)

How does the wing size affect understeer?

home
 

from the two runs I had you can feel the extra length ! But we use the touring car track and just divert off to the side for a few jumps ! Track had many hairpins. Then I landed with the power on off the jump and took a few teeth off the rear diff ! It was very cold so I came home ! ;)

1 .. How tight does everyone shim the diffs ?
2.. how tight do you run the diffs ?
3.. how tight do you run the slipper clutch ?

Handling felt good although I still have some shockers to sort out ! :thumbsup:

Exactly the same as with traditional cars - If the wing has high downforce at the rear, it causes the front to lift slightly (or at least give that impression) giving less steering.

Check
 

Just nipped into van at dinner and checked the FS out ! Some muppet forgot a spacer in the diff cup which let the little drive shaft move so far in it came out the front cup efectivley turning the car into 2 wheel drive ! Therfore the rear diff went !

Just goes to show you should always carfully "R.T.F.M"

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...dbond/rtfm.jpg

the muppet being you i presume then... serves you well for getting a RTR he he... That part you pointed out is a white plastic cover that is included in the diff assembly bag, comes with the diff nut retainer. That's right i'm building my own FS :thumbsup:

From looking at photos it will be fun with lipo saddles in there too!

If you did tho' I wonder what it would be like with all the weight at the front? bring out the lead!

Yes
 

Yes the muppet was me ! I thought that would have been evident in the tone of the message ! DOH !!!!! It worn some of the tiny little drive shaft but it should be ok ! I have also put some spare diff ring savers on the center shaft outputs for added strength !

Well Steve you know im a fan of yours but.

If you did not use that little piece the nut spins and you could never have locked the diff up.
I take it you never tested it after you built it!!!!

as some one said you is a muppet.

still as you only a begginer to 4wd as you got a RTR i suppose we can cut you a little slack :)

?
 

Err this is the spur layshaft ! not a diff ! :o

there is a big nut to adjust the diff but its on the other end ! and its a 7mm one

The white spacer is put in to stop the litle drive shaft touching the screw end of the layshaft !

after 22 years I hope I aint classed as a beginer

Tamiya Falcon
Optima Mid
Optima Mid custom
Lazer ZX
Lazer ZXR
Lazer ZXRR
Kyosho Pro-X
Kyosho Triumph
Schumacher Cat XLS
Schumacher PRO Cat
Schumacher Couger
Schumacher Couger 2
Schumacher Couger 2000
Schumacher Mission/axis/axis 2/ mission 2 /R12
Numerous Tamiya's
PB Maxima
Nanda Swift
Nanda Raptor
Losi Jrx Pro
Losi XX
Losi XXCR
Losi XXX
Losi XXXCR
Losi XX4
Losi 8T
Mardave Metor
Mardave Mini
Kyosho STRR
Kyosho MP9
Kyosho RB5
Kyosho Lazer ZX5/RTR/FS --------


To name a few !!!

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...d/layshaft.jpg

Bondy to be fair that little white bit doesn't do an awful lot, as long as the nuts tight!!

As they would say on the football terrace.... after 22 years!!.... YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING!!!! :p:p:p

OOOOOOOH
 

FOR THE SECOND TIME ! LOOK AT THE DRAWING !!! THERES NO ******* NUT THERE ITS A HEAD WITH A SLOT IN IT SO YOU CAN HOLD IT TIGHT WITH A ALLEN WRENCH WHILE YOU ATTATCH EVERYTHING AND TIGHTEN UP THE NUT ON THE OPOSITE SIDE. THE HEAD WHEN THE SLIPPER IS SLIPPING ACTUALL TURNS INSIDE THE CUP THATS WHY YOU PUT GREASE ON THE SHAFT ! THE LITTLE WHITE SPCER JUST KEEPS THE SMALL CENTER SHAFT FROM TOUCHING THIS WHEN IT ROTATES HENCE "ITS WORN A LITTLE " :mad:

OR you could just be taking this piss , so I will sort you out on sunday matey !!!! :thumbsup:

Hi Steve,

thats an impressive list of cars.

I have to apologise as i use the same white piece on my cars diff.

But at least it shows that even the most expeienced builder can make a mistake.
I have made some howlers
I want to see you take the rtr and win some A finals.

A finals! Lol He can sit with it and watch some if he want's.
Bond was that a list of all the cars you've built wrong?:woot:

DUMMY
 

Im not posting any more ! Wheres that DUMMY ! :drool:

lol, was the latter Bondy, going to leave the RB5 at home and the challange is now set-

ZX5 RTR/SP?/FS Bling thing Vs The CAT SX :thumbsup:

Will bring you a box of tissues and will order you a blue alloy dummy from Hong Kong :lol: :p:p:p

Don't get a Yeah Racing one, they bend real easy when you chuck 'em out of the pram :lol:.

Lipos in there
 

Hopefully Kyosho will manufacture a chassis that will fit lipos in there as well since its all legal now.

Hmmm !
 

Which one won ????? Are yes I remember ! The LAZER !!!!!! :lol:

Meow ! Cat with no claws !! HE HE HE :p

Has anyome tried LiPo batteries in the FS? Trakpower, LRP or something else?

i believe the SMC saddle packs will fit... ditto the TP3200.

the TP4800s are too tall.

petitrc has some pics of the SMC saddle packs in the FS:

http://www.petitrc.com/_forumphp//sh...714#post309714

RTR conversion.......am I right that I heard this is not a full FS conversion?

Also, does the conversion have different length arms, and steel universals?

What parts do I need to bring my RTR into a FS kit state?

FS
 

If you want full fs spec startight away best just buy the fs !

I just did it cos it was a bit of fun so I got the RTR ! The RTR is cracking straight out the box and for a beginer if you keep it stock should be great ... but im not----so I got some upgrades then got the fs kit and it turns out to be quite good. From RTR to full FS spec would mean SP whisbones and rear hubs + knuckles + steel outdrives + driveshafts + SP Shocks + FS Conversion. So as you can tell it would be better just to get the FS. Think I will anyway when its out ! Its a cracking car so easy to drive.


The FS Conversion will fit work though !

How did it go on Sunday mate?

OK
 

Car went ok The person on the sticks didnt ! Im still at home at the moment ! I had a throat infection and have trapped so ce-atick nerve or something in my back which caused my left leg to go very painful. You could say my mind was not up to the job ! Had a good run in the last roundthough but ended up in the D Final. I killed it on the 4th lap probably due to frustation and pain !

The car jumps well and is very stable. Struggled a bit on some of the tight corners but I belive a one way diff will help sort that out ! Track was too flat for the stability and handling to give us an advantage as a touring car would have made it round quicker ! Cant remember his name but apart from Fabien someone else was running one and was doing OK and we got a few tips off him " both me and FAB had put the front/rear hanger on upside down " tut

It needs a bit more tweeking and if they do a propoer off-road course it should be great ! cant wait to try it outside " domination :p"

Have been testing with the FS for a few days now and and after outting in a 1 way diff this car is amazing!! I have got the kit settings on it and it is turning when u want it too. The standard setting is a bit too soft for me as its picking up a front wheel but this is nothing. I have a good feeling now about this car. Just need to race it now and see how far away we are(if any).

Glad to see your enjoying the car Woody.


I have a question though .................... by the looks of the manual I have downloaded there is no option for a centre one-way (not enough space). Can you please confirm that for me?

I've never really been happy with one-way diffs or full-time 4wd ..... I was tempted to try one before this potential bomb-shell struck.

Trust me mate, this car now with the 1 way in it is just as good as anyother I have driven if not better. With the 1 way in it, it doesnt feel as bad as other cars with 1 ways in. U must try it mate.

I totally agree
 

Even though I dont drive for Kyosho now ?

I agree ! Mine was super quick on sunday at broxtowe. A little skill involved aswell though ! And if it wasnt for the silly mistakes each run it would surely have been tq ! :D

I even made the triple a few times in the final after getting a bit peeved at being punted off the track 10 times in a lap !

Woody ... lend me yours for a trial .... lol

I have never really been happy with a one-way diff in any car, including the ZX5-SP.

I have run them on cars where there has been no choice but or perm' 4wd but never really been 100% happy.
Even the Mako came alive when I fabricated a shaft one-way for it ..... and I designed that car around the Yokomo SD one-way from the outset......
It's just the way I drive, probably too agressively, that makes it a little unsuitable.

Will think things through tonight, make a decission in the morning but I am currently thinking on modding the SP for 09 (slightly longer chassis .... more forward weight bias etc.) as I planned for 08 but never got around too.

Thanks for the feed back though.

Have to agree with Woody there, I didn't like the FS much with the front diff, but the one way made it a lot better. It doesn't bother me much as I ran the 501 with a front one way anyway.

The only issue i'm having now with the car is, I feel, a little lack of traction on low grip, really struggling to put the power down. However on carpet at the Petit it was absolutely fantastic :p

When ever you r up in/near Manchester then you can gladly have a day with it mate.

Ok, looks like the decission has been made ......

FS has been rejected, for now at least, purely for the one-way issue. Shame, would have been nice to be running a 4wd car with some set-up support for the first time this millenium!

Thanks for the offer Stu, will defo take you up on that!

Hi guys,

just bear in mind the one way is probably the optimum set up for twisty track with high grip.
The one way can be a handful on some conditions but fantastic on others.

Also this is a pure front one way not a centre one way.

Exactly why I don't like them!!!!!

Always found a centre one-way is a better bet for all-round use.

Shame, was looking forward to giving the FS a go.

I totally agree Neil, but in this car its not as harsh as others. It feels perfect. I know I sound bias but true.