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Very impressed with the car today . I ran kit std and the car was great on wet slippy astro . Nothing broke . I had my slipper set at 6mm
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Seems a bit suspect that Xray 'made an error' in the manual.
Especially as its with the most important part - the slipper. I ran mine with no apparent problems with the slipper set as per the original manual. Makes me think maybe the gears are not up to the job and they are trying to cover themselves by telling us to all run the slipper looser now? |
could be the gears arnt up to us:lol:
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No problems with gears etc, around 1hr running now. Car is awesome!
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i have run the car for about 2 hours now with no problems whay so ever and the car is just great i can ask for more
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Breakages to report tonight, not directly my fault as I'd passed it to a mate to have a go in practice, but he came a cropper with a solid bit sticking out from a wall in our indoor track.
Struck hard right on the front bumper, directly on the part with the bushing behind. Took out the front arm, bent the hinge pin and killed a bushing. The Ali FF brace is fine. |
:cry: oh no,
3 people ran them at westbridgeford lastnight,hopfully they will let us know how they went, also who will be running them at worksop?be good to know what they go like and setups |
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As far as I know there will be at least 5 xb4's at worksop, these being Greg hill, Colin Jackson, James bullivant, abi dean and mark Thornewill. Hope this helps |
And meeeeeee.
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did you all run kit carpet setups? I hope you all have a good day tomorrow Quote:
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worksop
Yep as mark said there will be a group of us there 2morrow, if anyone's having any trouble or difficulties please come over and we'll do our best to help and assist :p
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For those of you breaking the rear shock tower (or front) I've made some aluminum towers for the car. The picture is the prototype but the ones I'm selling have sanded edges and clean holes. They're $35 shipped in the US and $45 shipped to Europe.
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Hi Chaps,
Just thought I would let you guys know. I sent Xray an email a few weeks back-With info and pics of my cracked bulkhead. (To make it positive feedback and not someone bashing it on a online forum!) I was hoping to provide them with some more info and pics of my crack (Dirty minds!!:p, to hopefully help them in resolving/sorting the slight issue some are having. "Dear James Sorry for late response, we had Xmas holidays. Sorry to hear about your problem. The XB4 was long term tested by the racing and R&D team in plenty of abusive conditions and real races without any major problems. However we have received and seen several comments and feedback on some issues. Neverthless we carefully monitor and study all the comments received from customers and we have been still waiting for some more feedback from some other countries and distributors around the world to get a complex view and understanding if customers in other areas in other conditions face similar issues. As soon we will have any official final information it will be posted at XRAY web site, please keep watching it. Thank you and with best regards Mario Hudy" There working on it ;) |
hey all . just to let you now that we have made shocktowers aswell in the shop cnc mild . have tested them and the bulckhead broke and the tower servived .
now as we are located in belgium its a problem for those in the UK wanting some . now this will be solvd as Nathan ralls of ralls racing will be given a handfull this weekend so that those who wants them than get them from him . greets and best regards Bart |
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What about making a bracket like this?
This is just one that I made of lexan. Make one in 3mm alu tomorrow. |
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Anyway rc disco have the metal gears but not the steel pins.so just till they come in stock,will the metal gears fit on the platic pins? Anyone tried the metal gears from dex210? |
I have run the metal gears on the composite cross pin until i can get hold of the metal ones.
I ran the worksop meeting like that and had no issue. I would only suggest it as a temporary fix because i imagine the composite material will wear quickly. But to get you through a race meeting it will work James |
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Cheers James just hope pins will be in stock soon! |
Martin Bayer ran the car at last weekends EOS - the car was totally standard including plastic gears, no problems with big jumps and lots of traction. I watched him change his diff oil to make sure he wasn't fibbing and sure enough - all kit items.
Slippers are there to protect the drivetrain - use it! |
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we both bought one each and built them the same and ran them at the same races. sometimes its just down to bad luck i think. im loving my xb4,got loads of steering n handles on rails. not run it outdoors yet,life keeps getting in the way! |
At risk of jinxing my car, I've now done five meetings including Worksop and lots of carpet running and haven't broken a single thing. As Jimmy says, if the slipper is used appropriately it'll protect the tranny and not adversely affect the driving experience. Mine gets better every time I take it out. I'm sure I will break it at some point but so far it's been faultless and fast.
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I always start to lose and than go stiffer . my slipper works almost always when I jank the throthel after a turn for at least 50 cm just to save the drive train . and that is on all my cars and on al serfaces lol |
Ran my xb4 for first time today at Chadderton. Was panicking at first as I left all my spares in Glasgow!
Very impressed with it and managed to put it in the B Final. Needs lighter damping but apart from that it was great. Also, never broke a thing all day. Great car. Dave |
Just wondering if anyone has had the diff outdrives snap,app were the drive shaft slots in,on full compretion the drive shaft is hitting the outdrive and snapping them,they say they were running the rubber stops on the outside of the shock shafts,might be worth looking at and putting two on or some plastic washers instead of the rubber
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3rd indoor meeting with mine.
Running all original parts. Still no failures or breakages. |
xb4
ive run mine once on grass so far , second meeting this weekend !
i had a heavy full speed tumble and broke the camber link off the rear shock tower , saying that u should all be aware by now there is a free upgrade kit !! see team xray .com yorkie. |
diffs and shocks
I know some people have had issues with the shocks leaking but what about the diffs?
After 1 and a half meetings my diffs have completly emptied. I have rebuilt them with new gaskets and re-greased the o-rings. As i did when new. Anyone else had this problem? |
I used AE green slime on the orings in mine and were fine. few leakes after 4-5 meetings so reslimed them and prefectly fine again
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Ran car at Chadderton yesterday again. Car keeps getting better but shocks still leaking. We tried building them with Losi 22 o-rings in the caps but still leaked. May also be leaking from bleeder screw hole too.
Haven't checked the diffs yet but they seemed okay. Overall quite happy with the car so far. |
my shocks arent leaking at all . but I tichten them verry hard . to prevent that .
if it leaks on the bleading screw than U over tichtent it . as simpel as that . :D:D:D:D:D |
Mine were tight believe me. They have leaked each time. As for the cleeder screws they were not over tightened.
Built loads of shocks etc in my time and never have any issues. I like the car and want it to work but its a bit annoying. |
diffs
hi i had my diffs leak nearly empty after 2 races(2x5 min runs!!)but i found that was leaking past gasket when rubbed on wet and dry found a few high spots so rubbed down till flat new gasket and sealant and been all good since.
hope this is helpful |
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how are we all getting on with the upgread kit?
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I've read that on US style tracks, now they have the rear brace, they are breaking rear hubs, but yet to do one myself. Might be worthwhile carrying a spare, as I have. |
I have the upgrade kit fitted after breaking my original front bulkhead. No other breakages yet. Still on my first set of gears too. Starting to really like the car but i still have concerns once we go outdoors with gears etc.
Looking forward to trying it tho. |
built my kit with the upgrade kit as standard so have the metal braces on the shock towers and the front bulk head fitted and ready to go.
just waiting on a 3mm turnbuckle wrench and some green slime to try and sort my leaky diff also trying to source some diff gaskets at a decent postage cost |
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I'm still on the kit gears, had no issues at all running carpet and slippy gym floors with minipins. I've just built up a new diff for easy swapping and testing of oils. built this with he new upgraded gear. not noticed any difference in them, but the kit ones have seemed fine to me. I have recently loosened my slipper. It was set at 6mm when i built the kit, but i just loosened it one full turn. I've not noticed any difference in the slip, which makes me think i'll try it another full turn next time out. One of my racing buddies keeps popping rear diff outdrives, even with upstop limiters added. I've not had a problem though. |
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