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bretts 29-09-2006 09:15 AM

I run a car at Garforth it's an old TC3. I find that the car is still quite competitive. My radio gear isn't up to much either.

I'm not as fast as Bally, Buzz, Guy, Jonny, Mick or Binns but that might not be just down to the car. One crash/spin can make the difference between A final and B final (last time I was bQ) and that was all down to my driving.


IMHO any car will be good for Garforth even second hand ones. Any 19t spec motor will get you round also. The best gear doesn't always win races.

The racing is fast and cheap. One set of slicks will last ages, upto a year so I've been told.

Visit the new web site (by Jonny Aird) http://www.gtcc.me.uk/ for race dates!!

Cheers

Brett

P.S. I have a Reedy Quad Mag 19t Spec up for sale. (Used 3 times!!) only £10. See me at York on Saturday or at Garforth the week after.

BenG 29-09-2006 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 12228)
:p sounds like it would be interesting then, never know what ya might get! what breaks on the thing then ? wishbones, hubs and hub carriers ?

wishbones, yep, even the uber hard ones, hubs, erm yep done them, and hub carriers are ali, but I think I may have bent em, the CVD's bend too. Also, if you are looking for a good 19t motor, check out team screams vast selection, they rock:eek:;)

jimmy 29-09-2006 09:26 AM

What are the difference between short and long arms ? I mean, do the short ones make the car narrow ? (surely not) and whats it come with ?

p.s. my choice of car isnt entirely in my hands

BenG 29-09-2006 09:46 AM

oh right, I get ya matey. Erm dunno bout long/short arm thingy's. I guess it would prabaly adjust wheel base and not the track.


If you need an RDX, I have one for £150, I will strip it down for ya and clean it, but set-up for GTCC is mint, as it was set-up by twice BRCA champion Gary Marsden . Thats with some spares, like belts e.t.c , and a tyrc racing bodyshell:D

jimmy 29-09-2006 10:12 AM

I dont need an RDX since one might be winging my way, so thats why I said I dont really have an option as such, not that im that bothered, im sure its a good car even if its a bit weak, i will just have to be gentle!:p

BenG 29-09-2006 10:14 AM

yeah, dont get me wrong, it is a great car if you can stop it breaking, I wish I could keep mine really.

DCM 29-09-2006 10:18 AM

if they are short (narrow track) then it makes the car a little more agile, Tamiya doa similar thing.

bally 30-09-2006 09:13 PM

I ran a RDX for a while and i have got to say it was superb just a little delicate!!!

Nearly all the cars now run the same geometry (Cyclone style)

As has already been said the tyre to use is the LRP 24R they will last you atleast 10 race meetings

Just so you all know i ran a Yokomo BD at the last meeting and it didnt feel any different to a T2 Tamiya or Cyclone to drive so i guess its just down to what colour ali you want!!!!

Bally

andys 02-10-2006 04:56 PM

T2 Gearing.
 
Chaps.

The TR2 manual gearing chart means nothing to me !
What pinion should I use witht he kit spur and a 19t Spec motor ?

Cheers. Andy.

BenG 02-10-2006 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andys (Post 12380)
Chaps.

The TR2 manual gearing chart means nothing to me !
What pinion should I use witht he kit spur and a 19t Spec motor ?

Cheers. Andy.

Andy, is it in rollouts? I am also unsure of this, I just made a random guess which was ok.

bally 02-10-2006 07:20 PM

andy gear your motor at around 7.0 overall (spur/pinion x internal ratio think it is 2) my motor is geared at 6.5 but it gets very hot and needs a skim before the final!!

I now have the new still rdx wishbones in stock they are twice as thick as the old ones so i guess they will be super strong!!!!

Rick 02-10-2006 07:52 PM

Hi Andy

I believe the kit spur is 84t, 48dp, thus

20t pinion = 7.14
21t pinion = 6.80

Although we run 7.5, which would be a 19t pinion, but who are we to disagree with Mr Ball, he is the man to beat at Garforth

Our T2 gives a chart showing both FDR & Rollout. We will not be at GTCC this weekend but should be there next time, I will let you have a copy of the sheet

Good luck

buzz 02-10-2006 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bally (Post 12390)
internal ratio think it is 2)

I believe it is 1.7 ;) :D

bally 02-10-2006 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzz (Post 12395)
I believe it is 1.7 ;) :D

ok then 1.7 u can tell i dont run a xray i wasnt far away!!!!!!!!

BREEZER 03-10-2006 09:25 AM

Rdx Fragile
 
:flower: Hi All, I have a RDX thou I have not raced it yet. What I would like to know is what parts do I need to keep as spares. I intend to put on the "NEW WISHBONES" all round plus the "ALI FRONT HUBS". Can you advise me of any other mods to do to improveit.
GOOD RACING,

MARTIN

bally 03-10-2006 10:03 AM

hi, all you need is ali front hubs and ali steering arms give u much more feed back and make the car easyer to drive i would also buy a black spring kit. do not buy a spool as it makes the car undriveable!! another good thing to buy would be some better turnbuckles as the std ones are a pain to alter.

bally

jimmy 03-10-2006 10:10 AM

Do you bring all your bits to Garforth bally ? I dont even have a car yet mind! haha

bally 03-10-2006 01:19 PM

yes i bring most popular parts with me for Xray, Associated, Yokomo, Hot Bodies and Corally cars as well as tyres and motor brushes

ashleyb4 03-10-2006 05:51 PM

The best tyres and addative you can have are Cs22 pre glued and corraly jack the gripper.

A

buzz 03-10-2006 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 12480)
The best tyres and addative you can have are Cs22 pre glued and corraly jack the gripper.

A

ok, where did that one come from lol :D

jimmy 03-10-2006 10:45 PM

Welcome to the wonderful world of *Ashley* :p

Does everyone use addative at garforth then ?

Rick 03-10-2006 11:23 PM

LRP Blue Factor on VTEC24R's, this seems the popular choice

BenG 04-10-2006 06:22 AM

yep, I second that;)

jimmy 04-10-2006 09:07 AM

I have some Nosram vtec 24r's, I'm guessing those are the same tyres ?

bretts 04-10-2006 09:17 AM

There's racing at Garforth this Saturday (7th October).

Don't miss out!

Chris Doughty 04-10-2006 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 12535)
I have some Nosram vtec 24r's, I'm guessing those are the same tyres ?

same product, different packet!

jimmy 04-10-2006 09:26 AM

Thought as much, thats a relief.


racing this saturday ? I think Andy is going, but I don't have a car yet so I dont think I'll be attending unless I come to just watch.

bigred5765 04-10-2006 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 12520)
Welcome to the wonderful world of *Ashley* :p

Does everyone use addative at garforth then ?

and you told me to be nice :o

andys 04-10-2006 07:41 PM

Yep jimmy. Me and Mr Brogan will be in attendance, and likely will dominate the meeting :)

Mr Brogan has dusted the cobwebs from his old Xray and it's reported to be in excellent condition, he's even spent a few bob at bally's shop ! Everything else will be supplied by his main sponsor.... me !

I'll be sporting my T2R and hoping I don't break it first run. Looking forward to it Jimmy.

buzz 04-10-2006 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andys (Post 12575)
Yep jimmy. Me and Mr Brogan will be in attendance, and likely will dominate the meeting :)

lmfao, nowt like having ur own trumpet and blowing it is there! dominate the meeting, u must be a pro then to come bk to TC and dominate?

andys 04-10-2006 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzz (Post 12590)
lmfao, nowt like having ur own trumpet and blowing it is there! dominate the meeting, u must be a pro then to come bk to TC and dominate?

Just having a bit of fun fella ? Although last time around I did beat Bally a few times.......

jimmy 04-10-2006 10:17 PM

Andy will always be a pro to me. You'll all be praising his name this time saturday! ;)

andys 04-10-2006 10:20 PM

LMFHO.

Nice one Jimmy. I think 'Old Pro' is more appropriate !

Tickled me pink that did, bed time know I reckon.

DCM 04-10-2006 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 12480)
The best tyres and addative you can have are Cs22 pre glued and corraly jack the gripper.

A

Well, he got one bit right, Jack the Gripper, but pre-glued CS22's on carpet are, erm, pooh. Like aeveryone has said, VTEC 24R's, either in LRP or Nosram flavours.

Cs22's just have evil and not very good inserts for rug racing.....

oooh, one-way up front, shinny screws and lots of power... just trying to be random...

BenG 05-10-2006 06:58 AM

Welll, I will try to set-up my T2, and I'll bring my D50 too, maybe Jimmy can get me THE settings for indoor at a sports hall? I cant work the damn settings out LOL

buzz 07-10-2006 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andys (Post 12599)
Just having a bit of fun fella ? Although last time around I did beat Bally a few times.......

fair play mate, look forward to racing you tommorow ;)

thats wat it is all about though at the end of the day, just gd plain old fun! :D

buzz 07-10-2006 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.tyrc.co.uk (Post 12610)
Welll, I will try to set-up my T2, and I'll bring my D50 too, maybe Jimmy can get me THE settings for indoor at a sports hall? I cant work the damn settings out LOL

yeah yeah fetch the D50!!! I want some funky pic's of my car!!! ;) :D

jimmy 07-10-2006 12:52 AM

I have to say I used to prefer touring cars because of the easy close racing, I think you need to be at a decent level of racing before you can get the same close racing thrill with off road - which is ultimately more satisfying I think.

Still don't have a touring car sorted. :(

andys 07-10-2006 09:23 AM

Finally sorted and painted the T2R, so will be at GTCC tonight with it. not sure if Mr Brogan can make it though, also far from sure that the setup is ok, downstops, anti dive ?, all means nothign to me.

One thing that does seem wrong is the front end is way softer than the rear (shocker / damping wise) is this right ? I've put in 30wt all round as per the setup sheet, but i've ended up using 2 holes on the pistons rather then the 3 recommended as it just felt way too lightly damped ?

I'm sure I remember you run softer on the back, harder on the front ? The kit springs are gold on the rear, silver on the front, are the golds harder ?

Any help appreciated as I don't want to spend the evening pratting about with it. Ta. Andy.

BenG 07-10-2006 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 12754)

Still don't have a touring car sorted. :(

I got my RDX for sale:D..... will be going on fl'eBay tommorow if not matey, £150 to you with spares and a super cool tyrc racing shell:D


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