If you open a business, and cannot support the products, that is not our fault it's a 1 man shop.

I'm a small business owner, I started out as a one man show,..invest in a few interns or college kids to help out.. Once I got rio busy and was falling behind I expanded.. Cost a little upfront, but now I'm producing 246% over last year and actually lowered production cost because the sales increased my bulk purchases of materials.

I'm not gonna tell anyone how to run their business but it worked for me.

We want to run the car, that's the crazy part, we want it, we'll even get ob here and beg for help and improvement, but you guys just tell us no and to eat it..

The only company I've eve seen this from...

Been reading this thread for a while now... Where exactly does it say that the X11 isn't supported? Havent seen any discontinued badges across it myself.
ALL spares, kits and parts are kept in stock, majority of X10 parts are all also in stock.

Development of the X11 was never dropped, all sorts were tried, to name a few wider hinge pin blocks, lengthened rear links, different front and rear roll centers, shortened rear wishbones, different hub pick up points, the upright rear shocks.
But its always been at its best exactly how it comes out the box, so yes there potentially could of been an updated kit but it would of been no better than the X11 currently is.

Problems with ordering from the Team Xtreme website are now a issue of the past, all orders are dispatched mostly same day if not the next. You should now even receive a email notification now once your order has been dispatched :)

If your looking for set up help have a look over on http://www.teamnoidea.com, Martin is always posting his latest findings and set up pages over there.

You beat me to it Will
Well said
The only thing I will add to that is that Kev Lees modded ( upright shocked ) pred was courtesy of team Xtreme , not some home done effort to try and make it work! It worked better in stock trim!
So Ron ( SON ):p
Would you have preferred to be sold this expensive rear end to go slower?
No of course not
No the pred is not dead
It just works best as it is
Turn everything down a little ( as the car is very reactive as you know ) and watch your consistency and times get better
Hope this helps

Fuck it, I could not be bothered... good luck with it hey.

A business that argues with their customers, who WANT TO GIVE THEM MONEY... and tells them they are wrong and should basically just shutup. on a public forum...... bravo mate, bravo.

I have seen no evidence of argueing with you Ron?
Can you please show us where?

Oh and Ron
I am genuinely trying to help

Oh no mate, not at all..... The perfect princess you are. As are TX. We all must be wrong I apologize on behalf of all dissatified owners expecting some kind of car support from TX.

What were we all thinking.......

Honestly, it is absolutely NO skin off my nose, its you guys that will suffer..so seriously champ, good luck with it.

Tell that to the other loyal customers that were treated digracefully. Refer to my previous post linking to the-pred.co.uk and other threads on this site. How about telling that to the guys running these cars for years that were treated like dirt, again just reread it all in my previous links.

You are under the illusion it is only me....still.

Trying to help the UN helpable springs to mind:mad:
I can only assume you are a wind up user

You cant be serious surely. But... on the other hand, you have done it before so to discredit another forum user is a small victory for you huh?

That is how TX operates?

How about TX issue an apology to all the past people they have burnt?
How about genuine support for this car recommences. Website, updated setup sheets, accurate parts lists, prices, stock and availability of spares readily.
No delays in delivery of parts, a contactable company, a working phone line, answering posts on this website about the predator rather than bypassing it completely and promoting Vega products and "forgetting the loyal fans"..

Mate I could go on all night with your issues, but you already know them. They have been going on since, ill say it again, earlier than 2009. Can you not just admit responsibility and ownership of these issues, others have had?

Or am I dreaming reading these?

Here is my final comment on the matter. Answer this and it will speak volumes... If you don't, or TX don't then that, my friend speaks even louder.


Is the customer wrong?

These questions are not something I can answer as I am nothing to do with team Xtreme
I only tried to help you with your predator problems
I think you do not want to be helped, you just want a row and have personally insulted me
Swearing included
You do not know me or anything about me!
I feel burnt trying to help you!
And to answer your stupid question
No the customer is not allways right
That is why they look/ discuss and communicate on forums Like this one
That's my opinion not team xtremes

If Team Xtreme would come out with a 2WD Predator I'd love to drive it, but from the first day I drove a 2WD (back then I still drove offroad) I didn't feel much for 4WDs anymore...

If I were to drive 4WD though, the first cars to look at for me would be a DEX410 or a Pred (even though I'd probably prefer a belt driven car) - the other cars are just too much alike, always the same basic layout really...

Your fwd looks ace
I know we chatted about inboard suspension and rocker ratios ,,, I'm glad to see it worked out real well!
Love it
Well done
I am in the Netherlands soon
Do you live in the south?

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...ghlight=t8rtot
t8rtot your feedback says Avoid at all costs! ABOVE.
So I don't think you should be commenting and influencing opinions lol

Nothing to do with TX? but you seem to jump in any time someone has a problem? which is often?

A stupid question? and The customer is not always right? That says it for me.... And I hope others read what TX and you are saying.

Cheers

Again, to try and discredit a forum user is the only tool you have right? I dont think the above has anything to do with an issue.

Mate get it through your head, you cannot argue with 4 years of proven complaints and issues... Im not making this up, neither is anyone else.. It is written, plain and simple.. It doesnt get much easier and simpler than that... It is written proof, from oople and other forum members... Why do you keep trying to discredit us all and pass it off as "troublemaking" etc etc..

Are you saying, apart from the customer being wrong, that I and the other forum members are lying and troublemakers.

If you dont represent TX, go away. If you have nothing to do with them, why do you feel the need to respond the way you do? You say you have nothing to do with them, then you have nothing to do with this forum.

i sent teamxtreme an email regarding spare parts sunday and had a reply within a few hours. placed my order monday morning,received them tuesday morning.
cannot fault the service.

i'm in italy, five working days to have my spares is a good services...

Read my posts again
You are a wind up
:thumbdown:

Some guy got mad his stuff was lost in postage.. I made a mistake not packaging everything in the original box (honest mistake) because the car wasn't completely assembled, and the girlfriend shipped it for me. I re-shipped the remaining items with a tracking number and he never got them.. What could I do, he was convinced I conned him and write that up..

I have nothing to hide, I travel for work so I cannot respond to every reply.

But me and you have been round and round before haven't rebel?

I really don't feel like annihilating on you here for the third time just so you can send me an apology pm and try ass kissing me with inside info on what HB was working on (which hasn't come into anything btw)

Before you try to expose something or someone you know nothing about remember your only hurting your families company, done you are related to them some how, correct? wouldn't want them to come in here and tell you to shut up like last time.. but I guess you probably couldn't hurt the pred sales any worse. You don't even run the car lol.

Jimmy shut this down before rebel really starts to burn bridges

I edited this as you are an idiot.....

You're gonna need all the luck you can get champ.

Rebel RC, in these posts, speaking on behalf of people you really shouldnt be speaking on behalf of, have single handedly made things way worse and cost them a lot more than you would probably be aware.

As it is not just me reading this.....

Let me give you the tip, on a public international forum and in the business world, THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT.

Final comment on the matter :confused:

when someone says something obviously I take exception to, like "the customer is not always right" then I will say something.

a laughable attitude for a company in the situation such as yours.

Didnt rebelrc say "its run by just one man?" Sorry but apparently you do not exist.

You guys make me laugh
T8rtot
You said you had a Posting problem ( yes it happens to the best of us sadly)
So did team Xtreme
But now all is working well cause customers have posted so on here
All the other personal rubbish has nothing to do with you and you are incorrect

Now Ron
Trying to discredit a forum member is the only tool you've got.
Writing that I'm an idiot for trying to help you is great especially as it was help/info you said you required
When did I ever say I was speaking on behalf of anyone?
I said the complete opposite
You do not have to work at team Xtreme to know the phone line is working
And it was Me that said the customer isn't always right
If you are not familiar with captain lips thread about Durango diffs don't work!
Read it then tell me he was always right
Good luck with whatever you decide to do

God you guys are fantastic! amazing in fact!

Its laughable that, after all this time you guys can still consider everyone else to be the problem.

IS anyone suprised at this response though, probably not......

Wow - another final comment:lol:

Worst attitude guys, the worst... honestly........

Discredit me, or try to, all you like. Nothing mentioned has been fabricated in any way. The facts are there for all to see, including your conduct. Others have given their feedback on why they do not run the car, do with this what you will.

Very strange, the whole thinking behind TX.. but you will be pleased to know I will leave it at that :thumbsup:

I think time to move on now !! X11 is fab car love it or hate it !! we all have our own ideas on the car !!! I have never had an issue at all as said before and the people at TX have have always done a fab job for me !!! In fact this makes me want a pred again now to help promote the brand !!!! So thanks Ron you may of just helped them sell another x11 :thumbsup:

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Well said Warrington, I never had a problem getting parts/advice off Team Xtreme or the Team Drivers, you just have to ask.

I want another Pred now!!

+1 Frobes! I want another one all this talk of them, once you've owned a pred you want another! :thumbsup:

So far I have had 4 x Preds, 2 x X10 and 2 x X11 and 2 x Vegas, alway been happy with the service and support

Ie want x11 running again:thumbsup: now reading this
Good car number 1:thumbsup:
Ron ! rude! Rong!:thumbdown: But thanked you I will by my son another x11
Can you'd read Ron:lol:
TX wins

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Ahhhhhh and X11 love is restored:thumbsup: Hey hey! awesome!!..... now lets get back to racing!:lol: Speaking of racing its Plough raceway 4wd this weekend! After a few test sessions with the X11 I personally cant wait to let it out to play :thumbsup:

I have my pred now in front of me and I'm having a huge smile on my face without any other particular reason. That's what they call love I guess?!:wub:wub

Now does any one know of any second hand ones for sale :thumbsup:

pred.
 

I think its time this got wrapped up on here. jimmy, put us out of the sad debate and shut this thread will you.

all said and done, the pred is an awsome car. if i did'nt get so much bad luck with my x1108 at the regs this season, i would have kept it.

CUSTOMER SERVICE: I have had no probs with tx, service was second to none and all emails were replied to in no time.

ok, i did'nt get a drive for the team but hay i owned a pred, raced a pred and still got my t1 on the shelf.

i am not haveing a debate, i am not takeing sides, these are views of my experiance with the buggy and tx.

yanina & lewis..respect.:thumbsup: