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markwilliamson2001 08-04-2008 02:44 PM

Yeah its got one. Rather than having the spur gear clamped between the plates, it is behind the spur on the Cat.

Not sure how well it works compared to a double sided slipper on the B4 for example. I was thinking about modifying it to have a double slipper instead!

Elliott Hopkins 08-04-2008 02:50 PM

That's SOOOOO old fashioned. :)

I guessed as much.

Nick Goodall 08-04-2008 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elliott Hopkins (Post 111783)
Is the slipper clutch (it does have one doesn't it?) going to handle the extra wellie of a modern system?

Elliott.

it does indeed, and should be fine, the only thing is the Belts, diff's, drive shafts etc but let's hope :lol:

http://www.anything-cars.com/images/...s/DSC00105.JPG

Gayo 08-04-2008 03:19 PM

I used a Cat 2000 until recently, with modern cells (4200 IB) and a good brushed system (Orion 10x1) and for me, the weak point of the transmission is the blade system.
You have to check the wear at almost every run to avoid destroying the diff outdrives. :mad:

But what a car on astro or carpet !:thumbsup:

jim76 08-04-2008 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Goodall (Post 111774)
Brave words man, braaaave words :lol:

hey, i didn't say anything about the corners!! it's a given you are quicker there!!

Nick Goodall 08-04-2008 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gayo (Post 111799)
I used a Cat 2000 until recently, with modern cells (4200 IB) and a good brushed system (Orion 10x1) and for me, the weak point of the transmission is the blade system.
You have to check the wear at almost every run to avoid destroying the diff outdrives. :mad:

But what a car on astro or carpet !:thumbsup:

Yeah i must admit it scares me about the Blades - we used to wear them out fast enough back with 2000's and 11/12T motors so they weren't ever that great at handling the power.....

If i can get enough of them through various donations i'm currently receiving, i'll probably have to replace them every other run or so.....

markwilliamson2001 08-04-2008 04:43 PM

I have still got the sliders. Not sure how they will hold up! LOL

Well here's to hoping!

M.

Kev B 08-04-2008 04:54 PM

I was running my 2000 ec up until last year at the Nationals using 4200's and 9 single v motor and replaced them every other meeting. I only ran the 6 nationals and still was running well. Is this a return to off road Nick i havent seen you race since The Euros at teeside back in the 90's. I think i remember you making the A final that day,

markwilliamson2001 09-04-2008 09:34 AM

Lets post setups for our cats, in this section. I hope my slider driveshafts last out, although I will running the car on carpet to start with. Should be good.

Anyone got a starting setup with Schumey Shocks?

Nick Goodall 09-04-2008 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev B (Post 111848)
I was running my 2000 ec up until last year at the Nationals using 4200's and 9 single v motor and replaced them every other meeting. I only ran the 6 nationals and still was running well. Is this a return to off road Nick i havent seen you race since The Euros at teeside back in the 90's. I think i remember you making the A final that day,

Hi Kev, got that is going back - that was 1998 wasn't it? Yeah i made the A in 4wd with the awesome MX4 :lol: Was that the last meeting you did for a while then??? I carried on until end of 2001 and then decided late 2006 to have another play when Lee had CML raceway built, got my old B3 going round there and then last year i quickly had a b4 and all the bits before i knew it - i did the F2's last year but that was the only big meeting i did apart from 3 regionals around here. I was hoping to do more this year but it didn't work out that way so i'm just having a bit of fun really :thumbsup: How about you??

Mark, good plan - Shall we start a new thread for Set-ups??

I played with the Schumacher shocks and ended up finding that Losi Natural pistons with 40 and 35wt was about right! Not sure on Schumacher pistons, but maybe 2 hole and 35/40wt?

markwilliamson2001 09-04-2008 10:26 AM

Cheers buddy. I read on another thread that Assoc No.3 pistons were all the rage. I also changed to Losi Shock Shafts since they were longer and gave lots more downtravel. I hope this improves the cars bump handling.

Nick Goodall 09-04-2008 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markwilliamson2001 (Post 112039)
Cheers buddy. I read on another thread that Assoc No.3 pistons were all the rage. I also changed to Losi Shock Shafts since they were longer and gave lots more downtravel. I hope this improves the cars bump handling.

Yeah i had the losi Gold shafts in but they were a bit scratched up so felt horrible hence putting Associated shocks on.

I tried Associated No3's but it felt way too soft to be honest, if you can get hold of some Losi pistons i'd definitely recommend trying the White/Natural ones as it felt far better with those on (only on the bench, but you can get a good idea if it feels "right" or not) :)

MattW 09-04-2008 10:43 AM

Setups for my old cat 2000 are probably one thing i'll never forget!!

Schumcaher Shocks
Associated No3 pistons all round
40wt front, 35 rear.
Blue front spring, Grey rear
Rear roll bar.

Worked virtually everywhere!

markwilliamson2001 09-04-2008 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattW (Post 112051)
Setups for my old cat 2000 are probably one thing i'll never forget!!

Schumcaher Shocks
Associated No3 pistons all round
40wt front, 35 rear.
Blue front spring, Grey rear
Rear roll bar.

Worked virtually everywhere!

What about Roll Centre/Rear Toe in settings?
Was the rest of it kit setup?

Cheers
Mark

Lee Martin 09-04-2008 11:36 AM

i heard that the cat almost got body slammed

Nick Goodall 09-04-2008 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pidge (Post 112071)
i heard that the cat almost got body slammed

Oi! You will next time you're over at that rate :lol:

MattW 09-04-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markwilliamson2001 (Post 112057)
What about Roll Centre/Rear Toe in settings?
Was the rest of it kit setup?

Cheers
Mark

Front top link in upper/inner hole
rear top link (depending on bracket) Top inner on kit - however, carbon had an extra pair of holes above kit.
Rear toe - 3 deg. Personally i preferred outboard - plastic inner blocks and 3 deg hubs - but some ran alloy inner blocks and 0 hubs.

These were for "laydown" cars btw!

markwilliamson2001 09-04-2008 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattW (Post 112079)
Front top link in upper/inner hole
rear top link (depending on bracket) Top inner on kit - however, carbon had an extra pair of holes above kit.
Rear toe - 3 deg. Personally i preferred outboard - plastic inner blocks and 3 deg hubs - but some ran alloy inner blocks and 0 hubs.

These were for "laydown" cars btw!

Cheers Matt. Sounds like kit settings then to be honest, as it includes 3 degree toe in at the hub.

Cheers
Mark

Nick Goodall 16-04-2008 03:42 PM

Thought i'd just quickly update this - I ran the car at Lee's CML Raceway on Saturday just to see how it went and surprisingly it was pretty good! This was just on worn yellows, and the track was a tad damp in patches (Mainly all Astro).

The suspension seemed about right to be honest, which was again Associated Shocks, Losi Pistons all round with 35wt Front and 30wt Rear.

B44&501xRacerEX 16-04-2008 04:08 PM

A guy down the street has one of these or he's getting one
when it comes out. He had a 501x original before.

I like shumacher stuff, easpecially the ball-cups very stiff.


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