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ben 06-03-2008 07:42 AM

Garry whats the hole in the rear shock tower on the right hand side for????:confused:

Molgorain 06-03-2008 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ben (Post 101175)
Garry whats the hole in the rear shock tower on the right hand side for????:confused:

Maybe the shock tower is 100% symmetric, and can be turned around 180.
If it break on the side holding the shock, you can always turn it around.
Without replacing the shocktower....

Just my thought, when I saw it.

Edit! Second look, the "wall2 look to thin. So I take back my comment above.

sparrow.2 06-03-2008 08:38 AM

How would you remove the shock nut of the inside shock if that hole wasnt there :confused: Penny dropped? :D

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Originally Posted by ben (Post 101175)
Garry whats the hole in the rear shock tower on the right hand side for????:confused:


Lee 06-03-2008 09:11 AM

It does look really nice, but to be honest i wouldn`t know what adjustment did what to begin with, its not like a conventional car:confused:

That was one thing that has put me off getting one for a while.

Garry Driffill 06-03-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sparrow.2 (Post 101184)
How would you remove the shock nut of the inside shock if that hole wasnt there :confused: Penny dropped? :D


That is exactly correct !

Just makes life alot easier when removing shocks, The set up for the camber and caster have all recomended starting points, so im just going to try them first i think Lee. The main reason why people say things about this car is because its not a repeated design like everything else. Its more of a "Concept Car", people may be affraid of trying somthing new like this because its soo differnt to anything else out there which is understandable and very fair.

In the back of the colour manual there is set ups offerd for differnt types of tracks, gearing and such. In there it offers some good help :)

Garry

bigred5765 06-03-2008 11:32 AM

on the adjustment thought,
is it possible to move the top link hight on the inside
i cant see it myself,?
or adjust the king pin hight on the front / rear wheels
i can only see camber and ride high adjustment
surely that not the limit of adjustment on this new car
also how do you adjust the anti squat ?

Huw333 06-03-2008 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Garry Driffill (Post 101217)
In the back of the colour manual there is set ups offerd for differnt types of tracks, gearing and such. In there it offers some good help

Garry

I like the emphasis there garry - no expense spared! I've got an XK5 manual at home in black and white (and orange) :p :thumbsup:

bigred5765 06-03-2008 11:50 AM

lol i missed that
show off lol

Garry Driffill 06-03-2008 11:59 AM

Carl,

The top link height on the inside ? are we taliking front or rear :)..

Regarding the king pin hight, it cant be changed i dont beleive, but if somone would like to correct this then fine.

Its awkward to say off hand, about the anti squat, just give me a min.. LOL obviously with it being new still having a good look round on curtain things but ill get back to you on that one.

ill get some pictures posted up on the areas youve said as soon as everything is finished off, not long till its all ready mate :).

Garry

Southwell 06-03-2008 12:01 PM

Looks good, allbeit looking like a blinged X10 to me....

Garry Driffill 06-03-2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Southwell (Post 101233)
Looks good, allbeit looking like a blinged X10 to me....


New matirial too ! :D, Gotta say its abit better looking that some of the chunky cars hey carl ;)

Garry

XTREME RC 06-03-2008 12:08 PM

Just to clear up any confusion, the X11 is the evoloution of the X10 they are different cars. They may look similar but aren't even wisbones are different and a whole lot more!

Southwell 06-03-2008 12:10 PM

O yes i understand that, just looks similar :)
Anyway you have done a great job with the car, i hope it goes as well as it looks.

XTREME RC 06-03-2008 12:12 PM

Thanks:)

Richard Lowe 06-03-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee (Post 101187)
It does look really nice, but to be honest i wouldn`t know what adjustment did what to begin with, its not like a conventional car:confused:

It's exactly like a conventional car, the only thing thats different is the shocks are connected to the wishbones via rockers. All the usual camberink/caster/antisquat ect adjustments still apply ;)

RogerM 06-03-2008 12:17 PM

Assuming that they still have a choice of lower hinge pin holes in the rear hubs you can adjust the roll centre that way.

Roll centre on the front can be adjusted by spacing the outer upper ball joint up or down.

The only thing that needs some thought with applying set-up changes to a Pred is the lever arm effect of the bell cranks / rear shock mounting blocks. Once you get your head around it then it's the same as any other car .... more lever ratio = softer ... less = stiffer

To be fair for the many years I ran Preds all I felt the need to change to dial the car into various tracks was the rear roll centre, front oil & spring and rear spring. It was one of the most simple cars to set-up I have ever driven!

Good luck with it.

Southwell 06-03-2008 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 101240)
Assuming that they still have a choice of lower hinge pin holes in the rear hubs you can adjust the roll centre that way.

Roll centre on the front can be adjusted by spacing the outer upper ball joint up or down.

The only thing that needs some thought with applying set-up changes to a Pred is the lever arm effect of the bell cranks / rear shock mounting blocks. Once you get your head around it then it's the same as any other car .... more lever ratio = softer ... less = stiffer

I used to play with those holes all the time, i can't remember which i used now, it's been 9 years since i last drove the pred, but they are a great tuning aid for high/low grip tracks.

Nick Goodall 06-03-2008 12:21 PM

Car looks cool - i think the most important thing on the Pred was always the ride height and roll bars.

Very rarely did we ever need to adjust the Camber, Anti-Squat, Toe-in or anything, just get the shocks right and make sure it's not sat too high, then depending on how "loose" you wanted the rear end to feel just change the thickness of the roll bar - we would also run one on the front at times if it was a high bite track, but it was easy really as we rarely changed anything else!

Richard Lowe 06-03-2008 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerM (Post 101240)
The only thing that needs some thought with applying set-up changes to a Pred is the lever arm effect of the bell cranks / rear shock mounting blocks. Once you get your head around it then it's the same as any other car .... more lever ratio = softer ... less = stiffer

On the rear it's exactly the same as moving a shock in or out on a wishbone, only you move it up and down. It's ony the front thats really any different given the progressive nature of the rockers.

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Originally Posted by RogerM
To be fair for the many years I ran Preds... It was one of the most simple cars to set-up I have ever driven!

Because there was almost nothing to change on the old Preds :lol:

Garry Driffill 06-03-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vader (Post 101245)
Didn't you see the anti-squat adjustment when you built the car? Or did someone else build it for you? :confused:


What cutains does it come with? I could do with some new ones in out downstairs toilet. :thumbsup:

G


I Built the car...

Ive seen some of the posts this user has done previuosly moderators... nothing going to be done ?
:thumbdown: HEY NORTHY !!!!! :thumbdown:


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