As a fan of all football (neither of these sides though) it spoiled the game when players with so much natural talent in there team resort to cheating (Liverpool).:eh?:

Your not talking about kung fu Kuyt and that dirty git Carrigher. It's good to see the Gerard is still a cheat, diving out side the box then claiming a penalty.

Then to go and have a word with the ref who had made his mind to give a yellow card but then changed to red after some choice words from Gerard:mad:

Is this the sort of cheating scheming s**t we want or need as England vice captain.

Rant over.

I couldnt of said it better :D

Apparently hes the letter box not the postman aswell if you get my drift

Stan has always been known as the postbox, he dosnt have enough mail for the postman job. :D

totally agree Brian.

there were comments on the BBC website about bringing in Rugby style mikes on the refs so we can hear what the ref and surrounding players are saying like in Rugby. I think this is a brilliant idea as it will cut out almost over night all the abuse and swearing at the ref, plus it will stop players trying to intimidate him as their comments will be fully public.

It may also help explain some bizarre reffing decisions, as the refs never come out after the game with explainations!