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rocketrob 21-10-2010 11:24 PM

"naked trophy girls" :thumbsup:

Welshy40 22-10-2010 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by markwilliamson2001 (Post 424765)
I have been racing nearly twenty years now, and have been amazed at some of the technologies and improvements brougt out in the last few years! These include:

Scrc bombproof nicad cells
Esc's
Carbon monocoque tub chassis (e.g. Ttech predator)
Inboard suspension
Orion V2 brushed motors
Personal transponders
Sensored brushless technology
Lipo batteries
2.4 ghz transmitters
Moulded tub chassis (now very common in off-road)
Fluid filled gear diffs in electric cars!

What next big innovation will be on our cars? Personally tyres really havent changed in the last 10-15 years or so....so maybe this could be it???

Ideas please!

mmm ttech didnt invent the tub chassis as it was out several years before. Still i agree they did take the design and update it to a rather tasty design.

Shocks, well i thought that someone had brought out some new designs with an extra bottle to the side of the shock body but didnt really hit it off.

I think that aero dynamics will be a big leap as none of the buggies, including the pred are not that aerodynamic. Most front towers equate to having a brick wall on the front of the car even with the hole in the middle of the tower and the tires must aid to the problem.

Nick Goodall 22-10-2010 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshy40 (Post 425410)
mmm ttech didnt invent the tub chassis as it was out several years before. Still i agree they did take the design and update it to a rather tasty design.

Shocks, well i thought that someone had brought out some new designs with an extra bottle to the side of the shock body but didnt really hit it off.

I think that aero dynamics will be a big leap as none of the buggies, including the pred are not that aerodynamic. Most front towers equate to having a brick wall on the front of the car even with the hole in the middle of the tower and the tires must aid to the problem.

Off road cars don't really need to have any other aero features besides a Wing though, they're off the ground most of the time or at least high off the ground so you're not trying to create drag like on a circuit car - Plus the power to weight ratio stops speed or acceleration being an issue anyway as the buggies will never suffer any of that due to not being aerodynamic....

Fabs 22-10-2010 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Matisse (Post 424994)
hydrogen is time away, it's not even up and running for full scale autos yet.

WRONG !

Ain't you been watching TOP GEAR??

espana 22-10-2010 06:19 PM

rather than the car,maybe its the controller that will be next.i am no expert but there may be a way to fit a driving aid(electronic or hydraulic)into the controller,which will assist u when driving helping speed up ur reactions.in theory u cud maybe brake later,turn later,or give u a smoother driving style.just an idea!!!:blush:

Si Coe 22-10-2010 06:37 PM

Of course one thing to remember is that innovation has to work within the rulebook, or be so overwhelmingly worthwhile the rules get changed.

For example - back in the early '90s several companies were working on cars with proper traction control (with wheels sensors like in a real car) and even active suspension. They were promptly banned and haven't been seen since. The reason is clear - if allowed they will be frighteningly expensive and create a climate of haves and have nots.

Lipo and Brushless only got permitted because, after the initial outlay, they actually make racing cheaper, and looking after the car easier.

Whilst there are all sorts of clever ideas, those bodies that govern racing will only permit those that genuinely improve the racing experience - which is how it should be.

Welshy40 22-10-2010 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rocketrob (Post 425400)
"naked trophy girls" :thumbsup:

I second this one :thumbsup:

Matisse 25-10-2010 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fabs (Post 425435)
WRONG !

Ain't you been watching TOP GEAR??

wrong!


yes, i've been watching the gear, and although it's technically possible and has been done, i think we can see that it's not practical for mass consumption yet.


h-cell car was released @ Ihobby this week, not taking direct power but used as a battery life extension system, if i can find the link i'll post it.

Matisse 25-10-2010 07:57 PM

whilst its not a step forward, this is a pretty sweet gimick:
http://www.bigsquidrc.com/speed-pass...ble-by-iphone/

JonMack 25-10-2010 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Matisse (Post 426397)
whilst its not a step forward, this is a pretty sweet gimick:
http://www.bigsquidrc.com/speed-pass...ble-by-iphone/

If I can find a SP ESC small enough to replace my RS's I'll be getting one as soon as I can once this app is out.

Fabs 26-10-2010 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Matisse (Post 426396)
wrong!


yes, i've been watching the gear, and although it's technically possible and has been done, i think we can see that it's not practical for mass consumption yet.


h-cell car was released @ Ihobby this week, not taking direct power but used as a battery life extension system, if i can find the link i'll post it.

Sorry and what do you make of the FTX Clarity? It works and is available in California. You top it up like an LPG car... Now if THAT is not practical I don't know what is?

JonMack 26-10-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fabs (Post 426591)
Sorry and what do you make of the FTX Clarity? It works and is available in California. You top it up like an LPG car... Now if THAT is not practical I don't know what is?

Mat said "practical for mass consumption". While I'm sure the FCX is a great car, it requires hydrogen filling stations, of which it seems there are currently not very many. I thought that LPG was going to be good because it was cheaper than regular fuel, but in reality it required you to have your car converted, and not many petrol stations (in my area at least) had LPG pumps, meaning although it was great for practicality, it wasn't any good for mass consumption.

Wikipedia says "Honda believes it could start mass producing vehicles based on the FCX Clarity by the year 2018.". how long until there is at least 1 petrol station in every town in the uk that has hydrogen filling ability? When that happens, IMO the car will be practical for mass consumption, until then, i'll stick to petrol.

Anyway that's massively off topic...

ashleyb4 26-10-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by espana (Post 425554)
rather than the car,maybe its the controller that will be next.i am no expert but there may be a way to fit a driving aid(electronic or hydraulic)into the controller,which will assist u when driving helping speed up ur reactions.in theory u cud maybe brake later,turn later,or give u a smoother driving style.just an idea!!!:blush:

You can do that anyway cant you :eh?:

A

Metla 05-12-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Goodall (Post 425428)
Off road cars don't really need to have any other aero features besides a Wing though, they're off the ground most of the time or at least high off the ground so you're not trying to create drag like on a circuit car - Plus the power to weight ratio stops speed or acceleration being an issue anyway as the buggies will never suffer any of that due to not being aerodynamic....

Aerodynamics play a huge part not only in the way the car runs on the ground, but over rough terrain and when in flight, and the entire design is a factor, the body itself in many cases designed for positive aerodynamic influence.

Swapping out bodies can immediately alter the way a car handles in many different areas......

Metla 05-12-2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Matisse (Post 424994)

LiFe is the next thing power wise, that will replace LiPo as it's more stable and user friendly, beyond that power cells seem to be the next logical step.

LiFe won't replace Lipo untill it can win races, which pretty much won't happen unless the rules are changed to favour liFe, which won't happen....

Holeshot 05-12-2010 11:32 AM

Bicycles have been running tubeless tyres nows. Surprised no-one has came upmwith tubes or tubeless tyres/wheels.

RogerM 05-12-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Metla (Post 439369)
LiFe won't replace Lipo untill it can win races, which pretty much won't happen unless the rules are changed to favour liFe, which won't happen....


I know a few people trying LiFe and certainly in off road it seems very viable indeed ... in fact it is my intention to run LiFe next season, drop one wind on the motor and play with the gearing and speedo and all is good .. dare I say nicer than LiPo ;)


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