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mattybucks 30-09-2010 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Smartalec (Post 418853)
Good new indeed, if you need any help/advice i'm only 8 miles down the road and after our visit yesterday evening i'm sure (if asked) Paul and myself could give you a few ideas :thumbsup:


Thanks Alec, and I thought were mates!!!

Smartalec 30-09-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mattybucks (Post 418855)
Thanks Alec, and I thought were mates!!!

Sorry, do I know you? :p

Smartalec 30-09-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mattybucks (Post 418854)
Come on Guys, lets get behind

Some good jumps, and ladys finger secs for me.

Really Matthew :D

mattybucks 30-09-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Smartalec (Post 418857)
Really Matthew :D

Mate, I reckon you could run your zimmer frame round the current track, nothing too complicated for the "supervet" as his eyesight is going!

Smartalec 30-09-2010 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mattybucks (Post 418862)
Mate, I reckon you could run your zimmer frame round the current track, nothing too complicated for the "supervet" as his eyesight is going!

Sounds perfect for me and DC ............. Yeehaaa :thumbsup:

simond001 30-09-2010 02:13 PM

So is Moto Arena now competing with Silverstone off road club for the members?

mk2kompressor 30-09-2010 02:14 PM

guys, we want all the input we can possibly get so its right from the off:thumbsup: Matt, Paul and Alec id like to arrange a meeting with you guys, is that possible and when?
Matt has my number:)

mk2kompressor 30-09-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by simond001 (Post 418867)
So is Moto Arena now competing with Silverstone off road club for the members?


no, MA is hosting a winter series alongside Kyosho/Team Orion, we dont want to have the stuff to make an indoor offroad track and not use it for anything else;)
do Silverstone race on Tuesdays and Saturdays?

DerbyDan 30-09-2010 03:03 PM

Sounds like some positive decisions are being made by Moto Arena

The whole emmergence of this venue has been curious....

For me Moto Arena need to do the following in order to encourage people to support them & actually race there...
  • Set out a clear agenda of what classes they want to run & on what days/evenings, obviously some times will be set aside for corporate events, parties, arrive & drive etc (which will be required to get the necessary revenue for the up-keep of such a place)
  • I think MA need to take the 'bull by the horns' & run the regular meetings themselves... involving already established clubs I think complicates things - with conflicts of interests & membership fee issues. Obviously for large BRCA sanctioned events, the BRCA's input would be required.
  • Set-out a clear pricing schedule - the three different pricing plans advertised on the website I think have completely scared people off, especially as it is not clear what you would be getting for each plan. For me Moto Arena should be THE CLUB & there would be annual membership fee - this would give you discounted on-the-day race fees & the option of joining the BRCA, if you're not already a member - a system used by most clubs in the UK. Maybe as the Arena settles and starts to attract members who race regularly (possibly more than once a week) Then they can offer annual subscriptions that allows the driver to race at any meeting without any additional race fees/free practice during allocated times + other privileges. The cost of the 'Gold' plan would be comparable to Golf Club membership - or a season ticket for the Northampton Saints... which some racers might - 'might' be interested in if they raced there enough. Most of us racers however don't just race at one venue - so with other club fees - the 'Gold' plan is way out of most racer's pockets. There should also be an option for non-members to race with a one-off on the day fee without any other membership commitments.
  • Get the advice from seasoned racers/BRCA organisers on each of the tracks & make the necessary alterations before running race meetings on them (sounds like this could happen for the possible off road meetings:)) - I went to have a look myself a couple of weekends ago, for me the outdoor on road track looked nice but rather too narrow generally (though raceable) - the rostrum was stuck too far down one end (especially considering the tracks width) & needs centralising (maybe it need moving to the otherside along the straight if there is room?). The outdoor off road track was obviously designed by someone who's never raced off-road - the area allocated is too small really, but the space could be much better utilised by not having the banked track dividers - which leaves very little room for the cars in the 'gulley' an in some areas must make the cars difficult to see? The indoor on-road track is obviously the centrepiece for the Arena and has the potential to be great (I can't think of another indoor tarmac track in the UK?) But the track markers would be much better if they were shaped concrete like the outdoor track - though I understand improvements are being made to the current plastic markers with the introduction of flappy corners etc. Generally for all tracks, for really big meetings there seems to be a lack of pitting areas & the tracks seemed to have been designed without consideration for marshal points.... but all these critisms can be sorted out in due course i'm sure.
The On-road genre suits the Area's location by the full-size track but unfortunately its come at a time when on-road racing is experiencing a bit of a down turn - though the number of drivers that have pre-booked for Ardent's winter series show that its still very popular. I think making the indoor track into a temporary off road track is a good idea but it needs to be done right.... on that tarmac floor with the rigid plastic markers there could be alot of people going home with broken cars :( Obviously in an ideal world there would be the room indoors for a full size permanent on-road tarmac track with a full size lime-clay dirt off road track alongside.... just like the Yatabe Arena in Japan - now that would be a popular venue in the UK!

Smartalec 30-09-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DerbyDan (Post 418895)
Obviously in an ideal world there would be the room indoors for a full size permanent on-road tarmac track with a full size lime-clay dirt off road track alongside.... just like the Yatabe Arena in Japan - now that would be a popular venue in the UK!

:thumbsup:

Dhami1 30-09-2010 04:33 PM

Id race at an indoor off road track...!! :thumbsup:

there needs to be a permanent venue for indoor electric. There isn't anywhere to go and practice!?

Im sure numbers would build up as soon as the word gets out.

I used to go to PDA, that was an awsome set up.. a lot of 1/8 drivers brought a 1/10 just to race. This has got to be a good thing.

so i hope something will come out of this thread. good luck!

David Church 30-09-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Smartalec (Post 418865)
Sounds perfect for me and DC ............. Yeehaaa :thumbsup:

I like your style!!!:D

Battle_axe 30-09-2010 04:44 PM

I'm only 15 mins away and have said before I will provide help and input if you want

learnerdriver 30-09-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mk2kompressor (Post 418869)
no, MA is hosting a winter series alongside Kyosho/Team Orion, we dont want to have the stuff to make an indoor offroad track and not use it for anything else;)
do Silverstone race on Tuesdays and Saturdays?

will this offroad winter series be on sundays as most clubs in the area have / are setting their winter series dates !

do we presume that MA will have their own timing equipment ?

thanks in anticipation

dbizzle5 30-09-2010 05:05 PM

Tuesdays and Saturdays sound good to me! Mrs at work means no "pass" required!:thumbsup:

mk2kompressor 30-09-2010 05:25 PM

Dale from RC-Timing has supplied us with the software and we have our own decoder, just need handout pt's but i think some from MRT may be a better option:)
We will try not to clash with other clubs on dates, ill be looking at getting seperate calendars together for on and off road events from other places first before a decision is made on dates

learnerdriver 30-09-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mk2kompressor (Post 418971)
Dale from RC-Timing has supplied us with the software and we have our own decoder, just need handout pt's but i think some from MRT may be a better option:)
We will try not to clash with other clubs on dates, ill be looking at getting seperate calendars together for on and off road events from other places first before a decision is made on dates

any idea of surface for indoor offroad as yet ?

mk2kompressor 30-09-2010 05:36 PM

initial thoughts are,

carpet jumps and landing section
tarmac straights
maybe some astro for corners or landing sections

ive asked a couple of guys from here to help out with whats best, it needs to be right from the off:)

learnerdriver 30-09-2010 05:42 PM

avoid the sand filled astro if you can, it is extremely heavy to move and could cause problems if you want to run an onroad event the next day ;)

offroad clubs in the area are coventry , silverstone and stotfold on sundays, think hinckley may run on saturdays ?

learnerdriver 30-09-2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mk2kompressor (Post 418977)
initial thoughts are,

carpet jumps and landing section
tarmac straights
maybe some astro for corners or landing sections

ive asked a couple of guys from here to help out with whats best, it needs to be right from the off:)

there is a wealth of 1/10th offroad experience and knowledge of different tracks and surfaces in this area, a couple have already offered and i can think of a few more at least (it may be worth setting up a meeting for all interested drivers/parties ) :thumbsup:


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