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Neil Skull 29-07-2010 02:09 PM

I really cant say if big bore is better or not but if the team drivers are using them its not because its making them slower!!!!!!

As shin is not only a driver but also the designer i think it would be stupid if he did not run them or did but went slower!!
remember the Lazer light out the box!

ApexSpeed 29-07-2010 02:13 PM

They are also just TESTING them. There has been no mention if these were going to be sold as production upgrades or not. They might not actually make them faster.

area52 29-07-2010 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ApexSpeed (Post 398716)
There has been no mention if these were going to be sold as production upgrades or not. They might not actually make them faster.

As we have learned from the history: We (the modellers) want new parts because they are new. Not because they make our cars 'faster' ...

jimmy 29-07-2010 02:23 PM

Bbores might not make them faster- but might make it possible to alter internal design in the future as you suggest is the way forward. You could be right but I think the two will go hand in hand.

area52 29-07-2010 02:29 PM

Fits the subject: B4's with standard shocks on the left and Yokomo BB's on the right.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/...557b448950.jpg

njc11 29-07-2010 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApexSpeed (Post 398716)
They are also just TESTING them. There has been no mention if these were going to be sold as production upgrades or not. They might not actually make them faster.

These big bores are available as of this weekend, part numbers etc are already out there... :woot:

Well thats if you can get to the Japanese Nationals at the Yatabe Arena! lol! They are a pre-release to those running Kyosho cars at the Nationals.. To us they wont be out till around September.. The springs are made by X-Gear the same brand as Shin ran at the Petit race..

translate this link lol!

http://kyoshoshop-online.com/kyosho/...ggcd=ONFW5304V

:thumbsup:

ApexSpeed 29-07-2010 02:55 PM

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Interesting.

Anyone else already have spring clearance issues (on the turnbuckles) on the rears of the RB5/RT5/SC? Larger diameters makes it worse without mounting changes. Wonder how they are getting around that.

Some more photos of Tebo's rides from the recent Shootout...

ryanlownie 29-07-2010 03:20 PM

I want....
...Bigguboashokkufurusetto!


Love the Japanese translation!

I know these cars are far lighter than 1/8th's where big bores have proven to be a much better shock but still I doubt the company would go to the lengths and costs of developing them if there wasn't some sort of performance improvement. Obviously these could clearly be sold as bling but I can't see any downsides to running them!

mattb 29-07-2010 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ry @ JE Spares (Post 398739)
I want....
...Bigguboashokkufurusetto!


Love the Japanese translation!

I know these cars are far lighter than 1/8th's where big bores have proven to be a much better shock but still I doubt the company would go to the lengths and costs of developing them if there wasn't some sort of performance improvement. Obviously these could clearly be sold as bling but I can't see any downsides to running them!

get them in as soon as theyre released mate i want some lol

ApexSpeed 29-07-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ry @ JE Spares (Post 398739)
I doubt the company would go to the lengths and costs of developing them if there wasn't some sort of performance improvement.

Hahahaha... that's really funny. Have you picked up an R/C magazine in the last 25 years? The history of R/C racing is littered with expensive products that offer no performance gain (and some at a loss!).


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I can't see any downsides to running them!
Weight, higher center of gravity, you'll need all new springs, added costs... just to name a few.

But, YOU will definitely be lighter. :lol:

tonymon 29-07-2010 06:42 PM

dont buy them then mate if you dont think theyre better

ApexSpeed 29-07-2010 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tonymon (Post 398796)
dont buy them then mate if you dont think theyre better

Really? Ya think? :rolleyes:

The ONLY people who know if they are better or not are Tebo and Shin, and any of the other team members who are using them. Everyone else posting here is just speculating.

carlin 29-07-2010 07:35 PM

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Well it looks like JT is running these shocks too.

He's currently running them on the RB5 & ZX5 FS2, i did hear they will be out around Sept/Oct time
The only down fall is the retail price of these shocks, I'm guessing well over £100+???

njc11 29-07-2010 07:50 PM

They shouldnt be...

Around 4000 yen a pair and X Gear springs (made especially for these shocks, and as Shin already runs on his standard velvets!) at around 800 yen a pair!

So not as dear as you think!

They will defo be on my shopping list!

:thumbsup:

Neil Skull 29-07-2010 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ApexSpeed (Post 398819)
Really? Ya think? :rolleyes:

The ONLY people who know if they are better or not are Tebo and Shin, and any of the other team members who are using them. Everyone else posting here is just speculating.


Very true,

I wont be buying them until they are proven ok by someone who has plenty of cash to splash out on a set.

I wish i had plenty of cash:woot:

Neil Skull 29-07-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil Skull (Post 398835)
Very true,

I wont be buying them until they are proven ok by someone who has plenty of cash to splash out on a set.

I wish i had plenty of cash:woot:

Looks like i will wait for Nick to give me the feedback:thumbsup:

carlin 29-07-2010 08:01 PM

[QUOTE=njc11;398834]They shouldnt be...

Around 4000 yen a pair and X Gear springs (made especially for these shocks, and as Shin already runs on his standard velvets!) at around 800 yen a pair!

Oh i hope so then cause if there less £100 these babies be on my shopping list too:thumbsup:

ApexSpeed 29-07-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by njc11 (Post 398834)
Around 4000 yen a pair and X Gear springs (made especially for these shocks, and as Shin already runs on his standard velvets!) at around 800 yen a pair!

Wow, I wonder how they are doing that? 4800 yen is about $55 a pair, which is cheaper than the current standard Velvets per pair.

Hmmm... :confused:

njc11 29-07-2010 08:33 PM

Dont forget these are Japan prices, they could be more when they reach our shores..

Someone correct me if im wrong but velvets here in the UK are about £35 a pair??? So i reckon these new ones could be about £45 a pair here??

Still expensive.. but still cheaper than the Yokomo X Shocks!

Neil.. have FDL heard nothing yet?

:thumbsup:

paulc 29-07-2010 09:20 PM

The velvets are £40 a pair so the big bore ones will be more exspensive by £10 ish i reckon. It's not just the shocks though it's getting new springs too the standard ones are around £6 apair i think if the big bore ones are the same price you will probably need 2-3 pair for the front and 2-3 pair for the rear so you could be looking at another 35 to 40 quid on springs

All that said they do look verrrry nice also look better anodized red :thumbsup:

Paul


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