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shanks 26-01-2010 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hulk (Post 335416)
You could give Neil Cragg a Tamiya Thundershot and he would still beat you all!! ha

Give it time and im sure Mr Shanks will be having the last laugh :p

Im booking myself into the next Bury meeting to take you all on now, and help Shanks show you which car is boss ;)

Craig Collinson

good stuff pal I love having the last laugh - it's always the best!!!

First time with the car so I was happy enough for now - with a few team pointers I'll improve enough to pass those pesky lasers!!

Ryan from je joins the team soon too so there will be a fair croud all in all

Durango will be filling the a final soon enough!! (apart from woody of course!)

looking foward to seeing all my fellow team mates next meeting and causing some pain!!!!

reg 26-01-2010 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanks (Post 335415)

I was happy enough with the car though first round was very loose on the rear,after woody drove it (it looked mega) an gave a little advice car got better n better

hi could you let me know what advice he gave you and what you did as mine is also very loose on the rear
thanks
Mark

shanks 26-01-2010 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg (Post 336241)
hi could you let me know what advice he gave you and what you did as mine is also very loose on the rear
thanks
Mark

Mark

Yes of course remember it may slightly conflict with others opinion

We raised front camber links to the highest setting on the shock tower - this gives less initial turn in I believe

on the track car did feel slightly less "twitchy" but not by a massive amount

next we raised the rear camber links on the shock tower I think this was to give more grip mid corner (which is where my car was loosing it)

again I notice a slight improvement but not loads

finally I lengthened the rear camber link to the longest by moving to the outer hole on the hub

now this made the largest difference by far - the rear end was far more planted now and would only really go if I was just to heavy on the throttle

one thing to note is that all the time I ran with the rear weights on I.e the plate undeneath n the two rear side weights

I understand some say removing them sorts the rear end and I am not disagreeing with people who do far better than
me!

Woodys advice was the additional weight gives more traction n it seemed to work for me-admittedly I have yet to carry out representative test - try without weight now I have made geometry changes.

I think the way I have the car is good for someone of my ability I.e it's very forgiving - I could throw it into the corner at the end of high speed straight however I wanted reallY n it was easy to sort it out

for a better driver it is probably not responsive enough I guess

oh yeh I also had the ackerman link in the back position

ps thanks to Craig collinson who gave me the majority of the set up advice via pm on here and of course woody who drove my car trackside and actually started with the spanners himselve!

Next meeting is going to be even better now - all the Durango boys are fired up after some flippant comments by one of those pesky laser drivers!!!!

Hulk 26-01-2010 10:19 AM

There are various things you can do to gain more rear end traction, most of which have been covered by Shanks.

A few points that have not been mentioned are:

1. Reduce shock travel at the front - put a 2mm spacer in the front shocks to do this, then if you want more travel at any point you can just unwind the ball joint a few turns. Reducing travel at the front will stop the front end lifting so much under power then dropping under breaking giving you loads of weight transfer. The car will feel smoother, more consistent and easier to drive. Only a small change but trust me, it makes a big difference!

2. diff oils - going to a lighter oil in the rear will allow the diff to rotate easier when going round corners, thus generating more grip.

3. Shock position - standing the shocks more upright at the rear will allow the car to square up better when accelerating out of corners. The more inwards the shocks ares on the tower the more rotation you will get which could make the rear break free when pushing out of a corner.

There are many other ways in which to fine tune your car to gain more rear traction, but these few points should help greatly.

Here is a really good link on set ups :thumbsup:

http://users.telenet.be/elvo/

Craig Collinson

James 26-01-2010 12:38 PM

Just to echo the tips from craig :thumbsup: Also it might be worth trying the light green springs on the rear if you arent already.. Also are/were you using roll bars?

Hulk 26-01-2010 04:08 PM

Watch this race and watch it closely.

The first few laps is Shanks at the moment, but after some set up advice from the team he will soon be in front of you all, just like my car at the later stages of this race! haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sGZ5VrOxSA

Craig Collinson

mattb 26-01-2010 05:17 PM

durango
 
yeh mate just watched it your car looks mega but i must say shanks will be a realy good edition to your team he will be very usefull at testing the strength of the durango wishbones and shock towers and he will be able to demonstrate how many cart wheels the car can do in such short distance lol. has any of your drivers managed to have such a heavy inpact yet that it makes the centre drive shaft pop out???lol

ryanlownie 26-01-2010 05:33 PM

I'm sure the car will take it. But the center shaft was a bit weird when you consider how it's all designed and setup.

mattb 26-01-2010 05:36 PM

durango
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ry @ JE Spares (Post 336442)
I'm sure the car will take it. But the center shaft was a bit weird when you consider how it's all designed and setup.

come on ryan dont be so diplomatic just let go we all know shanks is the "floyd mayweather" of the rc world

budfish 26-01-2010 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanks (Post 336235)
good stuff pal I love having the last laugh - it's always the best!!!

First time with the car so I was happy enough for now - with a few team pointers I'll improve enough to pass those pesky lasers!!

Ryan from je joins the team soon too so there will be a fair croud all in all

Durango will be filling the a final soon enough!! (apart from woody of course!)

looking foward to seeing all my fellow team mates next meeting and causing some pain!!!!

throw enough shit a wall and some of it is bound to stick
shanks you are a penis when you get results with your aero then you can mouth off about it!! I'm suprised your fellow Durango drivers haven't disowned you for bringing the brand name into disripute!!
Bet they will when they see you drive the humbug!!


Buds

Si Coe 26-01-2010 06:01 PM

I'm just waiting for Durango to file a restraining order banning Shanks from driving any of their products due to the damage he will do to their reputation.......

shanks 26-01-2010 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budfish (Post 336447)
throw enough shit a wall and some of it is bound to stick
shanks you are a penis when you get results with your aero then you can mouth off about it!! I'm suprised your fellow Durango drivers haven't disowned you for bringing the brand name into disripute!!
Bet they will when they see you drive the humbug!!


Buds

I hear yr mother dis-owned you cause yr so fu**kin ugly!

shanks 26-01-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hulk (Post 336402)
Watch this race and watch it closely.

The first few laps is Shanks at the moment, but after some set up advice from the team he will soon be in front of you all, just like my car at the later stages of this race! haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sGZ5VrOxSA

Craig Collinson

Im with ya on that one Criag!

Il be beating those swines next time round!

ryanlownie 26-01-2010 07:15 PM

Keep it coming guys this is cracking me up!

mattb 26-01-2010 07:17 PM

durango
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shanks (Post 336499)
Im with ya on that one Criag!

Il be beating those swines next time round!

No chance mr shanks i think ill bring the wifes ipod so i can listen to the eye of the tiger before every heat!!!

budfish 26-01-2010 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanks (Post 336499)
Im with ya on that one Criag!

Il be beating those swines next time round!

I think shanks might have a crush on hulk
man love apparentlly it's a beautiful thing. So Shanks tells me!!!

Buds

shanks 26-01-2010 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budfish (Post 336447)
throw enough shit a wall and some of it is bound to stick
shanks you are a penis when you get results with your aero then you can mouth off about it!! I'm suprised your fellow Durango drivers haven't disowned you for bringing the brand name into disripute!!
Bet they will when they see you drive the humbug!!


Buds


Any more comments like this and you'll be finding out all about "man love" - like it or not!!

Then again bet you have already had a few close encounters that you have omitted to tell us about eh buds???

reg 26-01-2010 07:52 PM

Thanks a million Shanks and Hulk,i will give them all a try one at a time,all the things you talk about are what im trying to tune out so bring on Friday:thumbsup:..........good banter by the wayl:woot:

shanks 26-01-2010 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattb (Post 336503)
No chance mr shanks i think ill bring the wifes ipod so i can listen to the eye of the tiger before every heat!!!


Ipod? why not - i hear you wear her underwear now an then!!

budfish 26-01-2010 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanks (Post 336516)
Any more comments like this and you'll be finding out all about "man love" - like it or not!!

Then again bet you have already had a few close encounters that you have omitted to tell us about eh buds???

It's a good job your teams colour is brown!! I bets that's why you bought a Durango !! Head light flashing freak


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