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Chrislong 10-01-2010 08:56 PM

Check the engine for pinch. If the engine is a cheapish one, or the one that came with it as an RTR, from new you should be able to just turn the flywheel beyond the pinch - with effort. More expensie/competition engines will tighten up and lock, won't be able to from new.

But if you can turn it past pinch relatively easy, then it doesn't need to be run in. If its an expensive/competition engine and you can turn it past pinch with some effort, it doesn't need to be run in.... it'll have done a fair few tanks already.

Incidentally, if it is tight, after running it make sure the flywheel is turned so it can rock - makes it easier to start next time, and its easier to do this before the engine cools otherwise you may need to do it with a screwdriver.

reg 10-01-2010 09:27 PM

if its run in and has just stopped running it will be the glow plug,charge up the glow start,CHANGE the glow plug and it should be ok,one thing i would say is when ever the engine has been run,as soon as you can make sure the piston is at the bottom of the piston sleave,if you take the the exhaust off the back of the engine,turn the fly wheel so you see the piston move down to the botton through the hole,turn the fly wheel so you know what it feels like at the top and bottom,then when you have the exhaust back on and its in the car you know what it feels like,this will make the engine last a lot longer as the sleave cools before the piston,if you leave it,the sleave will get stretched due to the piston still being hot and larger than when its cool,

MALLET 10-01-2010 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jhowlett (Post 329568)
ahh right, the guy i purchased it off said he was using this as the engine will run cooler, im not overly bothered about the speed so what % would you advice using?
cheers
james

The higher thee nitro content the cooler your engine will run.

If you have not got any pinch then send it to me and I'll re-pinch it for you.

Set it back to factory settings and then run it on the 25% as been advised.

It sounds like you are too rich and its putting the glow out on the glow plug.

Start tuning you top end needle clockwise (leaning) 1/8 at a time until you've got a good crisp plume of smoke coming out of it until you have hit full throttle. if you have turned it in too much you'll have fuel starvation and your engine will cough and not get full throttle. Richen the top needle up a 1/4 turn.

You then will need to set the bottom end needle up. You need to keep an eye on the tick over because as you lean the bottom needle (clockwise 1/16th at a time) the tick over will start to race. So keep turning the tick over down.

Running an engine in

Tim

reg 11-01-2010 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MALLET (Post 329682)
The higher thee nitro content the cooler your engine will run.

If you have not got any pinch then send it to me and I'll re-pinch it for you.

Set it back to factory settings and then run it on the 25% as been advised.

It sounds like you are too rich and its putting the glow out on the glow plug.

Start tuning you top end needle clockwise (leaning) 1/8 at a time until you've got a good crisp plume of smoke coming out of it until you have hit full throttle. if you have turned it in too much you'll have fuel starvation and your engine will cough and not get full throttle. Richen the top needle up a 1/4 turn.

You then will need to set the bottom end needle up. You need to keep an eye on the tick over because as you lean the bottom needle (clockwise 1/16th at a time) the tick over will start to race. So keep turning the tick over down.

Running an engine in

Tim

Tim im sure its the other way,16% would make the engine cooler as there is more oil to nitro ratio,it would be like running the engine rich.......

Marvin 11-01-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by reg (Post 329849)
Tim im sure its the other way,16% would make the engine cooler as there is more oil to nitro ratio,it would be like running the engine rich.......

Oil doesn't necessarily make the engine run cooler...

Nitromethanol is added to the fuel to make the engine run cooler - so it can be leaned out further - thus higher performance.

jhowlett 11-01-2010 06:49 PM

cheers for all your help guys, im going to give it a go when the weather clears up a bit, as there is so much snow about now
cheers
james

MALLET 12-01-2010 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg (Post 329849)
Tim im sure its the other way,16% would make the engine cooler as there is more oil to nitro ratio,it would be like running the engine rich.......

No, it ain't the oil that cools your engine. I've been building and tuning engines for too many years now.

The nitro content will make an engine run cooler the higher you go on the nitro

reg 12-01-2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MALLET (Post 330115)
No, it ain't the oil that cools your engine. I've been building and tuning engines for too many years now.

The nitro content will make an engine run cooler the higher you go on the nitro

:blush::woot::p

jhowlett 12-01-2010 01:26 PM

errr,:confused: im really confused now higher nitro content=cooler. or lower nitro content=cooler ? which one should i be using? :thumbsup:

reg 12-01-2010 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhowlett (Post 330147)
errr,:confused: im really confused now higher nitro content=cooler. or lower nitro content=cooler ? which one should i be using? :thumbsup:

my bad m8:blush: higher %

Chrislong 12-01-2010 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhowlett (Post 330147)
errr,:confused: im really confused now higher nitro content=cooler. or lower nitro content=cooler ? which one should i be using? :thumbsup:

Not read my earlier post then? The by-product of the nitro is water. So more nitro, more water, more cooling.

jhowlett 12-01-2010 04:27 PM

i did read your post mate, just someone else then said lower was cooler. I reset the needles back to factory settings, fully charged and changed the glow plug ect, but it still wouldnt start :( :cry:
im really stuck now.....

jhowlett 12-01-2010 07:20 PM

its working now :) thanks for your help guys!

Marvin 12-01-2010 11:58 PM

Yeah, they tend to need a little persuasion. Also, 'factory settings' are usually so rich that they will be a pain to start. Sometimes, return to factory, then lean an 1/8th on both needles.


Electric is better though...

Bravo 13-01-2010 08:17 AM

Fuel
 
I remember many years ago I bought a small diesel aero engine.
It wouldn't start. i tried for days, weeks, out in the garage long into the night. Wouldn't start. In the end my dad said "you'e wasting you're time here. Buy some different fuel".
I did, and it was running fine in 5 minutes.

Chrislong 13-01-2010 10:22 AM

There is a lot to be said for even shaking it up before using it. I always have, afterall its going to get shaken like mad in the car.

MALLET 13-01-2010 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marvin (Post 330460)


Electric is better though...

Cheeky :woot: :woot: :woot:

You didn't think I saw id did ya :woot: :woot: :woot: :p


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