Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 25042)

Black wires are the work of the Dark Side indeed, in brushless systems Smoke contained with The Force they are, but not by the Dark Side, never.
Gold plugs transport well enough Smoke in my opinion.
Mirrors - also the work of the Dark Side - he who has knowlege of mirrors is a devisive and disruptive influence - yes.

Originally Posted by andys (Post 25037)

Graham.

Loved the smoke explanation :)

I wonder how brusheless work then, it did always confuse me, is the smoke in the motor !

Seriously though, who solders their cells in ! Seems a bit overkill to me, I like the idea of un-plugging it, if it goes wrong. I guess it had a switch, but I assume that went pop too ?

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 25053)

i would say that most of the top drivers do this (craggy bradders dave bailey skelder's tricky )
and loads of others, more common than you think
and safer than any connector

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 25053)

i would say that most of the top drivers do this (craggy bradders dave bailey skelder's tricky )
and loads of others, more common than you think
and safer than any connector

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 25071)

Safer? Glenns car maybe proved otherwise. I have never had a plug come out during a race but I have been glad of the chance to unplug quick, for the same reason that Glenn could not.

Originally Posted by Andy's (Post 25081)

Safer, yeah right !
Did you see the picture in the 1st post !
Plugs are quite common on most electrical items, allows you to un-plug them in an emergency. I find them most usefull and will continue to use them :)

Originally Posted by Medders (Post 25084)

I can't beleive there are people these days that solders in cells?

Surely that should be banned on safety grounds? Are these same people going to one day solder in Lipos?

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 25089)

so the likes of neil cragg are british champion should be banned because he solders in cells
paul bradbury
dave bailey
adam skelding
matthew latham
colin brenan
and all major big league guys do this
u lose loads of voltage and produce heat in the cables
through plugs
and yes we have had plugs even corralys come of a cause us to lose a race

Originally Posted by Medders (Post 25090)

I just think any such sport requires rules that place people on some sort of level playing field and one of them should be that the battery must be unpluggable in the event of an emergency. Common sense really.

I hate soldering anyway :D

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 25091)

so lets look at full sized cars electrical fire were the plugs there
you even need spanners to do that
and in case you rally nuts are reading yes rally cars have a battery isolator switch but it doesn't stop electrical fires
buy unplugging after the smoke has been released its still buggered, even before the magic smoke has come out there long gone. so un plugging it does nothing and how many marshals have had there fingers scorched unplugging someones car, me on more than one occasion,

Originally Posted by andys (Post 25095)

Carl, Please take this in the light hearted manner it's intended, it's a wild guess, but I think I may have being marshalling before you got into this 'hobby' (never forget that lads it's important, this isn't a sport!), anyway I digress, I've had to marshall plenty of cars in my time that have had the speedo go POP, it used to be quite a regular thing in the good old days, anyway when a speedo goes, what happens normally is that the motor runs at full power and it's uncontrolable. Quite alarming really.

Now correct me if i'm wrong, but wrangling with somones car on your knee, running at full power with smoke coming out of it isn't good. Thankfully, when this has happened to me i've being able to, wait for it.... unplug the batteries. Horray ! Suprisingly this has the desired effect and renders the dangerous projectile usless and it can sit and smoke in peace.

If I am ever Unfortunate enough to marshall an out of control car that has the cells soldered in, i'll simply leave it to it's own devices, it's simply too dangerous to handle in my opinion. Maybe i'll leave it to one of the 'Big-Lads' to sort out, they'll know what to do ! :):):)

Originally Posted by Andy's (Post 25095)

Carl, Please take this in the light hearted manner it's intended, it's a wild guess, but I think I may have being Marshalling before you got into this 'hobby' (never forget that lads it's important, this isn't a sport!), anyway I digress, I've had to Marshall plenty of cars in my time that have had the speedo go POP, it used to be quite a regular thing in the good old days, anyway when a speedo goes, what happens normally is that the motor runs at full power and it's uncontrollable. Quite alarming really.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but wrangling with someones car on your knee, running at full power with smoke coming out of it isn't good. Thankfully, when this has happened to me I've being able to, wait for it.... unplug the batteries. Hooray ! Surprisingly this has the desired effect and renders the dangerous projectile useless and it can sit and smoke in peace.

If I am ever Unfortunate enough to Marshall an out of control car that has the cells soldered in, I'll simply leave it to it's own devices, it's simply too dangerous to handle in my opinion. Maybe I'll leave it to one of the 'Big-Lads' to sort out, they'll know what to do ! :):):)