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Darren Boyle 11-01-2009 11:24 PM

This wasnt long before they tried the inboard motored version either, but they were blocked from running it by Losi sadly

ashleyb4 12-01-2009 12:35 AM

Purely out of intrest and wanting to learn more what does the MF2 rear help do compared to the cr ones? I have pretty much all thoses parts to make a hybrid wouldnt mind having a play around.

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Chris Doughty 12-01-2009 10:46 AM

MF2 rear hubs were my favorite Losi part ever.

you could fit them and you didn't have to use the dremel to use the outer 'high' holes

I agree with Northy, best my car even was was like this, but I also used the king-pin ball stud.

I TQ'ed a national with it like that against real life B4's and stuff :woot:

samd 12-01-2009 10:59 AM

I thought the bk2 had a different gearbox to the xxx, lower c of g, and the hybrid and cr used a xxx box(or an updated version of the same design). . is this correct. I have a bk2 on its way to me now, is it worth swapping the gearbox for a xxx one, as ive been offered a xxx on the cheep and i seem to read some bad stuff re the bk2s in the uk

paulj 12-01-2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net (Post 195778)
MF2 rear hubs were my favorite Losi part ever.

you could fit them and you didn't have to use the dremel to use the outer 'high' holes

I agree with Northy, best my car even was was like this, but I also used the king-pin ball stud.

I TQ'ed a national with it like that against real life B4's and stuff :woot:

Have you still got the hybrid Chris?

P_B 12-01-2009 07:28 PM

Haha, loved the hybrid XXX! Got my XXX-mongrel working ace but it wore out and I reverted to a CR as I couldn't be bothered sourcing and dremelling more odd parts. Check out those kingpin ballstuds!

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/bury2...ges/bury13.jpg

Would say this is probably the order of Losi 2wd effectiveness in the UK...

Hybrid > XXX-CR > XXX-KE > XXX-BK2

Not counting the venerable XX-CR, which would probably edge the BK2 :lol:

ashleyb4 12-01-2009 10:40 PM

What is the best way of doing the king pin ball stud mod?

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paulj 12-01-2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samd (Post 195782)
I thought the bk2 had a different gearbox to the xxx, lower c of g, and the hybrid and cr used a xxx box(or an updated version of the same design). . is this correct. I have a bk2 on its way to me now, is it worth swapping the gearbox for a xxx one, as ive been offered a xxx on the cheep and i seem to read some bad stuff re the bk2s in the uk

Hybrid uses' more or less the full rear end off the XXX - gearcase, diff, motorplate, XX CR pivot blocks, BK2 arms but reversed then drill new lower shock mounting holes and one extra hole further out, MF2 hubs or the nice Trinity alloy ones, and UJ driveshafts not CVD.
I think you may need a XXX rear chassis plate but not sure on this as it's been some time now.

Did the BK2 have different gearing requiring a full XXX internal gear set for the Hybrid?

I think the spur gear was changed too to fine tune the motor position?

Oh and bin the graphite chassis - you need to use a plastic one for the full effect ;)

Not sure if the team drivers used the VLA rear arms and hubs at one point either, Chris?

P_B 13-01-2009 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 196159)
What is the best way of doing the king pin ball stud mod?

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Ash, you had to source some Lunsford kingpin ball studs for the Losi XX and shim them to fit. To be fair, half the fun of the hybrid was doing the modding so the perceived improvements could partly have been placebo effect from all the bench racing.

The XXX-CR incorporated a lot of the hybrid's changes so just stick to that, it's much easier!

Chris Doughty 13-01-2009 01:54 PM

all of my Losi stuff went back to Helger (now Horizon)

the only thing I might have is the Losi car that never existed

ashleyb4 13-01-2009 02:04 PM

You still got your euro winning xx4 chris?

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Northy 13-01-2009 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoughtyUK.net (Post 196365)
the only thing I might have is the Losi car that never existed

:D:D:D:D:D:D

Chris, would you be able to give us info on the proper team hybrid changes? I'm not sure I can remember 100%.

Cheers,

G

Chris Doughty 13-01-2009 02:07 PM

ah, yes, my Euro winning xx4 - but I call that a trophy now, not a car

Graham - No :p

Northy 13-01-2009 02:10 PM

Awwwwwwwww come on man! :cry:

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Chris Doughty 13-01-2009 02:15 PM

the car we raced or the car that does not exist?

ashleyb4 13-01-2009 02:25 PM

THe car that doesnt exsist.

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Chris Doughty 13-01-2009 02:29 PM

how could I give details on a car that does not exist? :eh?:

PaulRotheram 13-01-2009 03:12 PM

with details that also do not exist :D

Big E 13-01-2009 03:15 PM

I have a non existent car in the garage as well :)

But it is not as fast as my other mid motor car!!

Chris Doughty 13-01-2009 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big E (Post 196401)
I have a non existent car in the garage as well :)

But it is not as fast as my other mid motor car!!

you have got another one? you sly dog, you didn't tell me! :p


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